I Served 25 Years in the Service - And this Asshole is Doing What?????

[Warrior102]

No, just continue being a knuckle-dragging, mouth breathing inbred. That's entertainment enough.

are you insulting my momma and my daddy?

that makes me very sad.

i guess i will need to burn another us flag to cheer me up.

Try burning a Confederate flag...that'll make him pop a fuse

I could care less what you burn. You have every right to burn whatever you like - and be a public fool - wherever you do it.

 

[daveman]

and when "we" decline to participate in another war of choice, we are called traitors and pussies who have sweet-heart deals with saddam.

It's funny how you pretend you didn't.

"we" are capable of learning from our history.

it is "your" turn.

you are welcome

If you'd ever done something to merit that level of arrogance, you might be interesting to talk to. And no, "being European" isn't an accomplishment.

When was the last time you stormed a beach or ran into a hail of bullets, TSgt?

Look, I know you've been programmed to automatically be deferential to Europeans.

But respect is earned. It isn't granted automatically because you're a liberal or you're European.

Let me know if you have trouble grasping that concept.

 

[ogibillm]

To pay for union health care.

Trashing Tricare | Washington Free Beacon

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.

He really does hate the military!

Really? That's why Sen. Tom Coburn came up with the idea last year?

I served 20 years in the Navy and I have no problem paying more then $460 per year for family premium. There hasn't been a premium increase in 15 years. Stop whining.

there really hasn't been an increase in 15 years?
good god no wonder the cry babies are up in arms. i'm sure we'd all like to be paying what we paid 15 years ago for health insurance.

 

[daveman]

ah, daveman is back with his bag empty of tricks.

Y'know, the American left didn't do you any favors by kissing your ass simply because you're European.

Now look at you: You expect it.

If you hang out on the internet where conservatives post, you're going to go through life bitter and disappointed. Well, even more than usual.

 

[daveman]

zero empathy, now whining.

Did you say something, Irrelevant Boi?

 

[daveman]

forked tongue, lol.

get a grip, tossface.

Cum guzzler.

that's going overboard, man.

Oh, look. Someone's whining.

 

[Dr Grump]

ah, daveman is back with his bag empty of tricks.

Y'know, the American left didn't do you any favors by kissing your ass simply because you're European.

Now look at you: You expect it.

If you hang out on the internet where conservatives post, you're going to go through life bitter and disappointed. Well, even more than usual.

I thought it was more like going through life laughing at the stupidity of the US neocon whackjob mentality. I know I get a good few chuckles every day....it's almost like a race to the bottom as you guys try and outdo each other for dumbest post of the day...

 

[SFC Ollie]

I've spent some time reading this thread and I admit that I had to skip parts of it. But I'll tell you there are some assholes and stupid motherfuckers posting here.

Folks Get off your collective asses and do something about this shit. Posting on this board does nothing but maybe let you feel good. Here is what I did:

Message sent to the following recipients:
Secretary Panetta
Representative Ryan
Senator Brown
Senator Portman
President
Vice President
Message text follows:

SFC Everett Oliver



February 23, 2012

[recipient address was inserted here]


Dear [recipient name was inserted here],

The following message is in regard to the proposed 2013 defense budget and
the proposed hikes in TRICARE fees.

In the year I enlisted in the US Army (1971) we were told, or promised,
that if we faithfully served 20 years or more on active duty that we would
receive a pension and free Medical care for life.

Then came Tricare. (add up the dollars)

Then we were told at age 65 we would have to switch to Medicare. (add more
dollars)

Now you are telling us not only do you want us to pay for medicare but you
also want to charge us more for Tricare for life.

I suppose the American Indians were right, our government speaks with
forked tongue.

Sincerely,


SFC Everett Oliver
US Army
Retired

I feel for ya but this is the problem in American politics right now. Americans want what the government has promised them but don't want their taxes raised to pay for it.

Fact is I have said many times to cut my retirement pay by 10%. But only if they cut every other check they write by 10% to include their own...........

 

[SFC Ollie]

To pay for union health care.

Trashing Tricare | Washington Free Beacon

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.

He really does hate the military!

Really? That's why Sen. Tom Coburn came up with the idea last year?

I served 20 years in the Navy and I have no problem paying more then $460 per year for family premium. There hasn't been a premium increase in 15 years. Stop whining.

there really hasn't been an increase in 15 years?
good god no wonder the cry babies are up in arms. i'm sure we'd all like to be paying what we paid 15 years ago for health insurance.

You truly are an idiot aren't you?
First you are the guy who thinks that the military is some 9 to 5 job and now you think that we should pay for what we were told was part of our pay. I retired in 93, my healthcare was free. In 95 that went from zero to $460, plus co-pays. As of last October the co-pays went up on prescriptions.
When I was forced to go on medicare my costs for healthcare went fro $460 to $2500. Now they are talking about adding as much as another $2000.....

Sound like part of our pay to you?

Go the **** away.

 

[ogibillm]

Really? That's why Sen. Tom Coburn came up with the idea last year?

I served 20 years in the Navy and I have no problem paying more then $460 per year for family premium. There hasn't been a premium increase in 15 years. Stop whining.

there really hasn't been an increase in 15 years?
good god no wonder the cry babies are up in arms. i'm sure we'd all like to be paying what we paid 15 years ago for health insurance.

You truly are an idiot aren't you?
First you are the guy who thinks that the military is some 9 to 5 job and now you think that we should pay for what we were told was part of our pay. I retired in 93, my healthcare was free. In 95 that went from zero to $460, plus co-pays. As of last October the co-pays went up on prescriptions.
When I was forced to go on medicare my costs for healthcare went fro $460 to $2500. Now they are talking about adding as much as another $2000.....

Sound like part of our pay to you?

Go the **** away.

you just don't want to admit that by and large the military is a regular job with regular hours.

and no, i don't like promises that aren't kept, but you have to admit that all things being equal even with the increase retirees would still be getting very cheap, very good healthcare.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Cum guzzler.

that's going overboard, man.

Oh, look. Someone's whining.

AFTER calling him "tossface."

LOL

Lefists, such ******* hypocrites....

 

[Uncensored2008]

I thought it was more like going through life laughing at the stupidity of the US neocon whackjob mentality. I know I get a good few chuckles every day....it's almost like a race to the bottom as you guys try and outdo each other for dumbest post of the day...

You're not a European, are you Gump?

I mean, even the French look down on you, don't they?

Gump tried to be a "real" Aussie once, but fucked it up, like he does everything... You wrestled a shrimp and tried to throw a crock on the barbie, dincha....

Didn't work out real well for you, did it?

 

[SFC Ollie]

there really hasn't been an increase in 15 years?
good god no wonder the cry babies are up in arms. i'm sure we'd all like to be paying what we paid 15 years ago for health insurance.

You truly are an idiot aren't you?
First you are the guy who thinks that the military is some 9 to 5 job and now you think that we should pay for what we were told was part of our pay. I retired in 93, my healthcare was free. In 95 that went from zero to $460, plus co-pays. As of last October the co-pays went up on prescriptions.
When I was forced to go on medicare my costs for healthcare went fro $460 to $2500. Now they are talking about adding as much as another $2000.....

Sound like part of our pay to you?

Go the **** away.

you just don't want to admit that by and large the military is a regular job with regular hours.

and no, i don't like promises that aren't kept, but you have to admit that all things being equal even with the increase retirees would still be getting very cheap, very good healthcare.

You dumb ass. I spent 22 years on active duty, I don't think I went one week of 9 to 5.
Most of the time it was at least 12 hour days, 10 if you had a light day. And 18 hours if you were deployed. And I was deployed a lot...........

So now that you have proven that you know nothing about the military, STFU

 

[Dr Grump]

I thought it was more like going through life laughing at the stupidity of the US neocon whackjob mentality. I know I get a good few chuckles every day....it's almost like a race to the bottom as you guys try and outdo each other for dumbest post of the day...

You're not a European, are you Gump?

I mean, even the French look down on you, don't they?

Gump tried to be a "real" Aussie once, but fucked it up, like he does everything... You wrestled a shrimp and tried to throw a crock on the barbie, dincha....

Didn't work out real well for you, did it?

Naw, I like Ockers, but am a NZer

Like the French too for all their snobbery and lack of fight, they crack me up.

You're just jealous because you don't live down here. It's Ok to admit you live in a country whose economy is going down faster than Nina Hartley on a football team..

 

[mudwhistle]

forked tongue, lol.

get a grip, tossface.

Cum guzzler.

that's going overboard, man.

Tossface doesn't???

 

[mudwhistle]

You idiot commie-lovers on the left made sure our hands were tied and we got out before we got the job done.

Good job, asshat.

The left won't allow congress to declare wars anymore. That would mean more powers for the President and we might have to win a war.

What wars needed declaring?

Korea....Vietnam......etc....

 

[mudwhistle]

I've spent some time reading this thread and I admit that I had to skip parts of it. But I'll tell you there are some assholes and stupid motherfuckers posting here.

Folks Get off your collective asses and do something about this shit. Posting on this board does nothing but maybe let you feel good. Here is what I did:

Message sent to the following recipients:
Secretary Panetta
Representative Ryan
Senator Brown
Senator Portman
President
Vice President
Message text follows:

SFC Everett Oliver



February 23, 2012

[recipient address was inserted here]


Dear [recipient name was inserted here],

The following message is in regard to the proposed 2013 defense budget and
the proposed hikes in TRICARE fees.

In the year I enlisted in the US Army (1971) we were told, or promised,
that if we faithfully served 20 years or more on active duty that we would
receive a pension and free Medical care for life.

Then came Tricare. (add up the dollars)

Then we were told at age 65 we would have to switch to Medicare. (add more
dollars)

Now you are telling us not only do you want us to pay for medicare but you
also want to charge us more for Tricare for life.

I suppose the American Indians were right, our government speaks with
forked tongue.

Sincerely,


SFC Everett Oliver
US Army
Retired

And yet I bet if I look hard enough I'll find posts by you and Warrior and Gallant defending tax cuts and the rich, and the bankers who caused this financial mess in the first place....talk about wanting your cake and eating it too...

It's highly debatable who actually caused this.

I saw the Dems getting ready for it by extending unemployment benefits way back in 06'. I saw them raising the minimum-wage causing increases in food prices. Then I saw Barney Frank and Chris Dodd screwing up banking so that banks were lending to folks that didn't qualify, or couldn't pay back their loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buying toxic loans. Then I saw hedgefunders moving billions in cash around the market scaring Hank Paulson so much he rushes into Bush's office telling him we need to spend $400 billion to bail banks out or our economy is back in the stone-age. Chuck Schumer telling depositors to start a run on banks. So-on and so-forth.

I see them closing down all public lands to drilling. I see Obama playing oil-speculator with Brazil while he's shutting down the Gulf oil industry.

Gosh, who knows what caused the mess.

 

[Salt Jones]

It seems like a lot of selected outrage is going on here.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) wants to cut taxpayer funding for non-military elements of the Defense Department, starting with making retired, uninjured service members pay more for what he described as “extremely low-cost health care for life” for themselves, their spouses and dependents under the Tricare Prime system.

For military retirees eligible for Medicare, he also wants to raise the co-payments that they are charged to be in Tricare for life, the second payer for health care after Medicare. In addition, he wants to increase low fees that Tricare beneficiaries pay for pharmaceuticals purchased at their local drugstores....... Coburn wants the fees to be much higher and more in line with private-sector health plans.

Instead, he wants to increase the enrollment fee for single retirees to “approximately $2,000 per year and $3,500 for a family.” At the same time he would limit out-of-pocket expenses at $7,500 for those retirees with families. He thinks these changes could save $11.5 billion a year.

Tom Coburn’s cuts: Military’s Tricare Prime health care program targeted - The Washington Post

 

[mudwhistle]

I thought it was more like going through life laughing at the stupidity of the US neocon whackjob mentality. I know I get a good few chuckles every day....it's almost like a race to the bottom as you guys try and outdo each other for dumbest post of the day...

You're not a European, are you Gump?

I mean, even the French look down on you, don't they?

Gump tried to be a "real" Aussie once, but fucked it up, like he does everything... You wrestled a shrimp and tried to throw a crock on the barbie, dincha....

Didn't work out real well for you, did it?

Naw, I like Ockers, but am a NZer

Like the French too for all their snobbery and lack of fight, they crack me up.

You're just jealous because you don't live down here. It's Ok to admit you live in a country whose economy is going down faster than Nina Hartley on a football team..

Or the cheerleaders.

 

[mudwhistle]

It seems like a lot of selected outrage is going on here.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) wants to cut taxpayer funding for non-military elements of the Defense Department, starting with making retired, uninjured service members pay more for what he described as “extremely low-cost health care for life” for themselves, their spouses and dependents under the Tricare Prime system.

For military retirees eligible for Medicare, he also wants to raise the co-payments that they are charged to be in Tricare for life, the second payer for health care after Medicare. In addition, he wants to increase low fees that Tricare beneficiaries pay for pharmaceuticals purchased at their local drugstores....... Coburn wants the fees to be much higher and more in line with private-sector health plans.

Instead, he wants to increase the enrollment fee for single retirees to “approximately $2,000 per year and $3,500 for a family.” At the same time he would limit out-of-pocket expenses at $7,500 for those retirees with families. He thinks these changes could save $11.5 billion a year.

Tom Coburn’s cuts: Military’s Tricare Prime health care program targeted - The Washington Post

Sounds like Obama's plan.

You sure they didn't cut and past Obama's plan and put it on Coburn's plan???

The massive spending Obama has been doing is going to hit everyone. Obama wants to focus on the military. Everything else is untouchable.