I said it before, now let me repeat more clearly...

[Bullypulpit]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

 

[dilloduck]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

Islam itself was always a threat to us all ,Bully.

 

[Gunny]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

You cite sources such as the Guardian and Washington Post and expect credibility?:rotflmao:

Y'know, I have tried for a couple of years now to ignore your disrespect for the President of the United States and callin ghim by your little pet names. That's not to mention the fact you are nothing but a sounding board for every left wingnut lie that gets tossed against the wall to see if it'll stick.

You need a new schtick. This one's beyond old. What part of you've had this older than my granny argument shot down more times than Japanese Zeroes just doesn't sink in with you that you STILL just go right on and post it again?

 

[Avatar4321]

Anyone can assert what you are asserting bully. Back it up.

 

[nt250]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

The last paragraph is true.

It's too bad that everything before that is full of Anti-American bullshit.

 

[trobinett]

:read:

 

[Bullypulpit]

Unable to deal with the issues you resort to peurile name calling. Such is the lot of ideologues. Simply questioning their ideology sends them into paroxysms of angry denial and attacks against the questioner. This behavior rooted in their own underlying, unspoken insecurities about their ideological stance and the assumptions rooted in that ideology.

As for the sourcing, why don't you follow the links. The opening quote is from an April 2006 National Intelligence Estimate. Read it if you dare.

 

[Bullypulpit]

The last paragraph is true.

It's too bad that everything before that is full of Anti-American bullshit.

When the simple truth is "Anti-American bullshit", are we really living in America anymore?

 

[LuvRPgrl]

Unable to deal with the issues you resort to peurile name calling. Such is the lot of ideologues. .

Oh my, You're one to talk about name calling eh CHIMPY?

 

[LuvRPgrl]

When the simple truth is "Anti-American bullshit", are we really living in America anymore?

Its not truth, its opinion. Nobody can say for sure what the rate of recruitment would have been had we not ousted saddam. As far as anyone knows, it may have recruited even more and faster.

Fact is al quiada grew at its fastest rate and first became a serious threat under clinton.

 

[nt250]

When the simple truth is "Anti-American bullshit", are we really living in America anymore?

The Presidents name is George W. Bush. You can call him President Bush. You can call him Mr. Bush. You can call him Bush 43. You can call him Dubya.

But don't call my president Chimpy.

Thank you.

 

[Gunny]

Unable to deal with the issues you resort to peurile name calling. Such is the lot of ideologues. Simply questioning their ideology sends them into paroxysms of angry denial and attacks against the questioner. This behavior rooted in their own underlying, unspoken insecurities about their ideological stance and the assumptions rooted in that ideology.

As for the sourcing, why don't you follow the links. The opening quote is from an April 2006 National Intelligence Estimate. Read it if you dare.

Actually, I'm LMAO now. Your entire intial post is a lie, accusation and insult; yet, when you receive insults in return, you want to whine about it. Practice what you preach, Wile E.

 

[dilloduck]

Its not truth, its opinion. Nobody can say for sure what the rate of recruitment would have been had we not ousted saddam. As far as anyone knows, it may have recruited even more and faster.

Fact is al quiada grew at its fastest rate and first became a serious threat under clinton.

Thank you for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone by now. No one knows WHAT was lurking in the undercover world of Jihadists and unfortunately we still don't. Bin Ladens' bunch is just one of many groups of Islamic America haters. The WOT is NOT ONLY after AQ. Without international attention and military action against known terrorists, they may have been much more sophisticated, bold and successful by now.

 

[Kagom]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

While I do agree with you on a few things, you're starting to get on everyone's nerves with all this and it's going to hurt your credibility far more than it already is hurt now.

 

[manu1959]

<blockquote>The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded. - <a href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975242/>MSNBC</a></blockquote>

This assessment of the war in Iraq has come from several other sources and other times. Sources such as <a href=http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1391072,00.html>The Guardian</a>, <a href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html>The Washington Post</a>, and others. And I have repeatedly made that assertion here, much to the derision of the "Friends O' Chimpy".

And that assertion has now been borne out by a national intelligence estimate. Because of the war in Iraq, the Bush administration is creating enemies faster than they can be killed. And it runs contrary to Chimpy and Co's assertions to the contrary. If nothing else which has come out in the last two months...From the Senate Intelligence Committee's Phase II report, to the open dissent of US military officers, retired and active, to Colin Powell's indictment of the Administrion for its insistence on ignoring the Geneva Conventions...This should highlight the Bush Administrations, and its supporters, isolation from reality.

Chimpy stated that , "We're on the offense against the terrorists on every battlefront...", but just where are those battlefronts? Given the decentralization of these islamic extremist groups, conventional military forces are esentially useless. When the enemy is simply a face in the crowd until they pull the trigger or detonate themselves, it can't be known. And this is why the role of law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world must be brought to the forefront.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a strategic error of monumental proportions with regards to combating terrorism. The Bush administration had an unprecedented opportunity after the Taliban and Al Qaeda were driven from Afghanistan to make genuine inroads, with the support and backing of the whole world, on terrorists organizations and networks as well as rooting out the causes of terrorism. Instead, they began a war of choice against a nation which posed no treat to either its neighbors, the US or our allies. The end result is a diffuse, radicalized extremist movement which is a threat to us all.

oh may this is awful..........what do you suggest we do?:shocked1:

 

[Gunny]

oh may this is awful..........what do you suggest we do?:shocked1:

Invest in gold.

 

[shepherdboy]

I don't buy the latest so called "leak out" intelligence assessment. Who can really look into the heart of person practicing Islam and determine if they are a threat or not. But it don't take a rocket scientist to know all the terrorist in this current war practice Islam. When are some of you going to wake up to the fact that Islam goal is to take over the world. This threat existed long before the war in Iraq and long before the United States became a nation. Its been able to gain strength and power by its numbers. Yea they have been having more babies then their infidel rivals. Just look at the populations projections throughout Europe for an example. Its the fastest growing religion in the world. It was just a matter of time before they would be strong enough to attack. So they are gonna die or your way of life is. Make your choice. Myself, I will follow the spirit of United Flight 93.

 

[Bullypulpit]

While I do agree with you on a few things, you're starting to get on everyone's nerves with all this and it's going to hurt your credibility far more than it already is hurt now.

If I'm getting on people's nerves, then I'm on the right track. If you aren't outraged by what this administraion has done, and is doing, then you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Bullypulpit]

The Presidents name is George W. Bush. You can call him President Bush. You can call him Mr. Bush. You can call him Bush 43. You can call him Dubya.

But don't call my president Chimpy.

Thank you.

So he's your President. He is also, unfortunately, mine as well. And...well...he DOES look like a chimpanzee. Or would you prefer I called him "Howdy-Doody", since the resemblance between the two is striking. That, of course, begs the question of just who is filling the roles of Buffalo Bob and Clarabell the Clown.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Islam itself was always a threat to us all ,Bully.

No, it's not. As with any other religion, it is the irrational extremes that pose a threat to civilized society.