I invite the Repub posters on the board to have a serious discussion, absent whataboutisms, about.....

[berg80]

so your never supposed to say..."gee havent you done the same shit your bitching about?"....you dont like being questioned do you?..

PLEASE, no "ya but" replies, no "why do you hate trump?" replies, just your considered opinion on the subject matter.

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, I don't. Neither do you. You just have to be willing to comment on what is happening in the real world.

and remember indy....never say anything about that person doing the same shit at one time...berg doesnt like that kind of shit...

 

[Harry Dresden]

PLEASE, no "ya but" replies, no "why do you hate trump?" replies, just your considered opinion on the subject matter.

cant answer that question?....its called a conversation berg...you say something and people reply.....

 

[berg80]

The thread is a troll.

You seem to having difficulty with this simple question. Yes or no......... Do you understand Sen. Rochester's concern over trump's "financial entanglements?"

 

[berg80]

cant answer that question?....its called a conversation berg...you say something and people reply.....

You're now on ignore for being a worthless piece of shit who is incapable of answering a simple question. See ya.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You're now on ignore for being a worthless piece of shit who is incapable of answering a simple question. See ya.

lol...not only severely trumpisized a pussy to boot...lol...yea see ya ....

 

[Seymour Flops]

this topic. Do you understand Sen. Rochester's concern over trump's "financial entanglements?" PLEASE, no "ya but" replies, no "why do you hate trump?" replies, just your considered opinion on the subject matter.

Trump’s crypto agenda is being threatened by his pursuit of personal profits​

Sen. Lisa Blunt Rochester of Delaware was one of the four. She pointed directly at Trump’s financial entanglements.

“I also remain concerned about the ongoing self-dealing and financial conflicts of interest being carried out by the Trump family,” she wrote in a statement on Thursday.

It’s not just about the $TRUMP and $MELANIA meme coins. There’s also the Trump family crypto venture World Liberty Financial, which was established last year and launched a stablecoin just as the administration pushed for looser regulations on digital assets.

Reports have indicated that Abu Dhabi-based MGX is using Trump’s stablecoin for a $2 billion investment in crypto exchange Binance, creating yet another potential conflict of interest for a sitting president.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/10/trumps-crypto-agenda-threatened-by-his-pursuits-of-personal-profits.html

Trump's stablecoin chosen for $2 billion Abu Dhabi investment in Binance, co-founder says​

May 1 (Reuters) - A stablecoin launched by Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial crypto venture is being used by an Abu Dhabi investment firm for its $2 billion investment in crypto exchange Binance, one of World Liberty's co-founders said on Thursday.
It's the latest in a series of Trump family crypto-related ventures, including a "meme coin" launched in January, that have drawn criticism from government ethics experts and political opponents over potential conflicts of interest.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/wlfs-zach-witkoff-usd1-selected-official-stablecoin-mgx-investment-binance-2025-05-01/

Whether trump is benefitting financially from being prez is no longer in question. The question is are Repubs okay with it and if so why?

I'm sorry to say the lack of replies from Repubs suggests something disturbing. Something those of us on the "other side of the aisle" have been asserting for some time. Namely, trump's supporters are not inclined to confront basic truths about the man they voted for. Perhaps because it reflects poorly on themselves.

My apologies to any Repub who gave a serious reply but that I didn't see cuz I have you on ignore. There are 78 of you.

Sir, if you have so many on ignore, it's a little silly to lament lack of responses.

Here is my serious answer to your question:

That Trump continues his profit-making activities while president is not ideal. There is a potential conflict of interest.

However, I balance that potential against the reality of what Trump is doing to protect and improve the lives of ordinary Americans against the possibility that he someday might act against our interests due to financial entanglements and find that the good by far outweighs the bad.

Especially because the bad is hypothetical, while the good is very real and immediate. For his actions on the border alone, the the benefit far exceeds the risk.

Senator Rochester does not explain how Trump's crypto venture could harm the nation, and she gives no example of actual harm occurring.

I could go on at length about the good Trump is doing, but I assume that would make me number 79?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sir, if you have so many on ignore, it's a little silly to lament lack of responses.

Here is my serious answer to your question:

That Trump continues his profit-making activities while president is not ideal. There is a potential conflict of interest.

However, I balance that potential against the reality of what Trump is doing to protect and improve the lives of ordinary Americans against the possibility that he someday might act against our interests due to financial entanglements and find that the good byvfarcoutweigha the bad.

Especially because the bad is hypothetical, while the good is very real and immediate. For his actions on the border alone, the the benefit far exceeds the risk.

Senator Rochester does not explain how Trump's crypto venture could harm the nation, and she gives no example of actual harm occurring.

I could go on at length about the good Trump is doing, but I assume that would make me number 79?

sorry i am no 79......see post 65....

 

[Seymour Flops]

sorry i am no 79......see post 65....

I see.

He's a touchy little guy, isn't he?

I'm guessing he's on the autism spectrum. It's very common for them to expect other kids to play exactly their way and to get frustrated when they don't comply as expected.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I see.

He's a touchy little guy, isn't he?

I'm guessing he's on the autism spectrum. It's very common for them to expect other kids to play exactly their way and to get frustrated when they don't comply as expected.

he is so consumed by trump its scary....you cant bring up the past with him.....not allowed ...he calls it whataboutism....

 

[Orangecat]

There is more. People are losing their ass with Trump crypto. It's a ponzi scheme.

 

[berg80]

Did Mac1958 attack biden then?

Its only an issue for him when trump is president

Do you understand Sen. Rochester's concern over trump's "financial entanglements?

 

[Mac-7]

Do you understand Sen. Rochester's concern over trump's "financial entanglements?

Yes and no

I understand corruption in washington and how much elected members of congress in both parties profit from their “financial entanglements”

Probably even Sen Rochester

 

[Nostra]

Do you understand Sen. Rochester's concern over trump's "financial entanglements?

Yes. He has terminal TDS, like you.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yes and no

I understand corruption in washington and how much elected members of congress in both parties profit from their “financial entanglements”

Probably even Sen Rochester

Very good point.

Rochester has received more than one million dollars from law firms, including more than on hundred sixty-six thousand from a single law firm.

berg80, might that affect her vote on a tort reform bill?

 

[berg80]

That Trump continues his profit-making activities while president is not ideal. There is a potential conflict of interest.

However, I balance that potential against the reality of what Trump is doing to protect and improve the lives of ordinary Americans against the possibility that he someday might act against our interests due to financial entanglements and find that the good by far outweighs the bad.

That's as close to a genuine reply as I've received so thanks. I'm frankly not sure how to answer because under the circumstances I don't want to disrespect your reply. So let me say this. I'm not going to respond in full to your, IMO erroneous assertion, that trump is protecting and improving the lives of ordinary citizens. I'll just say I completely disagree. Instead, I will ask why you think it's acceptable at all for any prez to use his office as a way to enrich himself. Regardless of whether you think the good outweighs the bad. Public service is supposed to be a selfless exercise for the sake of raising up the nation, not one's wealth.
Given the timing of him setting up his crypto biz doesn't it seem likely to you he did so in anticipation of being able to take advantage of it after he was elected? Especially seeing as how money can be funneled to him anonymously.

 

[berg80]

Rochester has received more than one million dollars from law firms, including more than on hundred sixty-six thousand from a single law firm.

Campaign finance reform is a separate issue from an elected official using his office for the sake of, in this case, enriching himself to the tune of billions of dollars. Bringing up donors to Rochester's campaign is another form of deflection from the subject at hand.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I will ask why you think it's acceptable at all for any prez to use his office as a way to enrich himself. Regardless of whether you think the good outweighs the bad.

I feel like this is the same question, but with a new rule that i cant mention the good he is doing. Okay, ill play along again.

Public service is supposed to be a selfless exercise for the sake of raising up the nation, not one's wealth.

Ideally, yes. But if completely honest and selfless politician runs in 2028, with her main promise being to reverse Trump's actions on the border, on deportations of criminals, on negotiating hard with adversaries and trading partners, I would vote for another Trump like junior or Ivanka instead.

Given the timing of him setting up his crypto biz doesn't it seem likely to you he did so in anticipation of being able to take advantage of it after he was elected? Especially seeing as how money can be funneled to him anonymously.

Maybe, but how do I lose on that?

 

[berg80]

Ideally, yes.

I don't believe the US has devolved in to a circumstance whereby we have to accept corruption for the sake of putting someone in the WH with whom we agree on policy matters. No previous prez in this century, and perhaps never, has used the office to enrich himself in the egregious, open manner trump has. I'm left to conclude, as is the case with his other shortcomings.......both moral and legal.......that you and those like you simply can't bring themselves to state the obvious. That what he is doing is fundamentally, morally, legally, and ethically wrong.

 

[berg80]

Yes and no

I understand corruption in washington and how much elected members of congress in both parties profit from their “financial entanglements”

Probably even Sen Rochester

Trump Is Said to Be Getting Qatari 747 for Air Force One, and Post-Presidency Travel​

The Trump administration plans to accept a luxury Boeing 747-8 plane as a donation from the Qatari royal family that will be upgraded to serve as Air Force One, in possibly the biggest foreign gift ever received by the U.S. government, a senior official with direct knowledge of the matter said.

The plane will then be donated to President Trump’s presidential library when he leaves office, the official said, allowing him to continue using it as a private citizen.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/11/us/trump-news?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250511&instance_id=154332&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=197749&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc#trump-qatar-jet-gift-air-force-one

Let me guess, nothing to see here?