I have a question for a person who is Pro-Life

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See? You don't know me at all.

But I do. You've got a ridiculous notion that abortion doesn't end a human life because you have dehumanized that human life to something less than human. Unfortunately for you the science doesn't support your position.

 

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It's a human being the entire time from conception to death. At every stage along the way possessing the full properties that are appropriate for that stage of the human life cycle. That's the science.

And no, that wasn't the premise of your OP. The only one obfuscating is you with your ridiculous OP with your ridiculous premise that you can't criminalize abortions unless you criminalize every little thing that might harm the baby.

So you still haven't answered and, instead, continue to flail about, making wrong guesses.

 

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You just said it yourself, one is murder and the other is a form of child abuse. Two different things.

So both are actionable crimes? Thank you.

 

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So you still haven't answered and, instead, continue to flail about, making wrong guesses.

I've answered everything. Your OP has been destroyed. Socialist types like yourselves aren't deep thinkers. Your controlled by emotion. Which is why you dismiss your defeats and ignore you incongruities.

 

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So both are actionable crimes? Thank you.

They are two different things with different levels of punishment. Which is why it was idiotic to link abortion to it in the first place unless you are a disingenuous twat.

 

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They are two different things with different levels of punishment. Which is why it was idiotic to link abortion to it in the first place unless you are a disingenuous twat.

you said that abortion would be a misdemeanor. What would child abuse be?
And if you can't see the link between a live child's being killed and being abused then I feel sorry for you.

 

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you said that abortion would be a misdemeanor.

I said my position is that abortion should be a misdemeanor.

 

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What would child abuse be?

What are the laws now?

 

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And if you can't see the link between a live child's being killed and being abused then I feel sorry for you.

The implication you made is that it's an either or proposition. Either allow abortions or don't allow abortions and every other thing that could harm the baby. That's quite a disingenuous argument. Each issue is it's own separate issue. It's not one thing.

 

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What are the laws now?

according to the laws now, murder isn't a misdemeanor.

 

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according to the laws now, murder isn't a misdemeanor.

Try to stay on subject. What are the laws now for child abuse?

 

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My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

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My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

so then abuse which does not lead to death should be even less of a crime, right? So what's lower than a class C misdemeanor?

 

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Try to stay on subject. What are the laws now for child abuse?

DCF | NJ Law

New Jersey child abuse laws

www.nj.gov

 

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so then abuse which does not lead to death should be even less of a crime, right? So what's lower than a class C misdemeanor?

Separate issues without the same complexity. So, no.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

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DCF | NJ Law

New Jersey child abuse laws

www.nj.gov

Great. See, it's already been codified. Problem solved. Now you can recant your OP like you should have done when you got called out for being intellectually dishonest.

 

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Great. See, it's already been codified. Problem solved. Now you can recant your OP like you should have done when you got called out for being intellectually dishonest.

Are child abuses misdemeanors? And you still don't understand me or what I'm doing. So just answer the questions I ask and keep your feet out of your mouth.

 

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Are child abuses misdemeanors? And you still don't understand me or what I'm doing. So just answer the questions I ask and keep your feet out of your mouth.

They are whatever the law says they. It has nothing to do with my position.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

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They are whatever the law says they. It has nothing to do with my position.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

so murder is a misdemeanor.

 

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so murder is a misdemeanor.

No. But that has nothing to do with my position which apparently threatens you.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.