I have a question for a person who is Pro-Life

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thanks for not answering.

Aren't these independent of abortion? If these were really concerns of yours, you would have started a grass roots movement to effect change, right? Instead of using them as reasons to legalize abortion like a disingenuous putz.

 

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Seniors? I read that book in the 6th grade!

So? We often reread books once we develop more maturity and cognitive skills and perspective. We then find new layers of meaning. If you read it in 6th grade and then again in 12th, you would experience a different book.

 

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No, we haven't. You are no teacher if that is the kind of crap you are putting out.

Sure I am, nor is it crap. Did you want to make other ridiculous assertions?

 

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You are basically proposing government intervention and control in a life process where it has no business except in a socialist/communist authoritarian government. That crap will go over like a lead balloon, and it will never fly.

I am not proposing anything. I am texting someone else's position by taking it to an extreme to show what the other person moving towards.

 

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Aren't these independent of abortion? If these were really concerns of yours, you would have started a grass roots movement to effect change, right? Instead of using them as reasons to legalize abortion like a disingenuous putz.

So still no answer. Noted.

 

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So still no answer. Noted.

Incorrect. Everything you mentioned in the OP is unrelated to abortion. Each are independent issues. If these were really concerns of yours, you would have started a grass roots movement to effect change. Instead of using them as reasons to legalize abortion like a disingenuous putz.

That's called checkmate.

 

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Incorrect. Everything you mentioned in the OP is unrelated to abortion. Each are independent issues. If these were really concerns of yours, you would have started a grass roots movement to effect change. Instead of using them as reasons to legalize abortion like a disingenuous putz.

That's called checkmate.

Since you don't understand my position on abortion and are basing your approach on your projectng your beliefs on reality, you end as futilely as you begin.

 

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Since you don't understand my position on abortion and are basing your approach on your projectng your beliefs on reality, you end as futilely as you begin.

Incorrect. You argued that if society doesn't allow abortions then they must also not allow other behaviors that are harmful for the baby. That's my data point. The implication you made is that it's an either or proposition. Either allow abortions or don't allow abortions and every other thing that could harm the baby. That's quite a disingenuous argument. Each issue is it's own separate issue. It's not one thing.

 

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I am not proposing anything. I am texting someone else's position by taking it to an extreme to show what the other person moving towards.

I don't believe it is moving towards that. There's a huge difference between abortion and poor prenatal care.

 

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I am not proposing anything. I am texting someone else's position by taking it to an extreme to show what the other person moving towards.

I don't believe you are testing it. It's such a disingenuous argument, it is likely that you are making it because you don't believe abortion is a crime.

 

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Sure I am, nor is it crap. Did you want to make other ridiculous assertions?

No, you have already supplied enough ridiculousness.

 

[80zephyr]

Back in the 1950's when I was born, women smoked and drank during pregnancies. I'm sure there was some risk, although I believe it was minimal.

Abortion is 100% lethal.

 

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Incorrect. You argued that if society doesn't allow abortions then they must also not allow other behaviors that are harmful for the baby. That's my data point. The implication you made is that it's an either or proposition. Either allow abortions or don't allow abortions and every other thing that could harm the baby. That's quite a disingenuous argument. Each issue is it's own separate issue. It's not one thing.

I am asking how one differentiates once one begins with the supposition that the fertilized egg is a full fledged person. Nothing you have Said has answered that. Your insistence that things are different is just so much obfuscation on your part.

 

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I don't believe you are testing it. It's such a disingenuous argument, it is likely that you are making it because you don't believe abortion is a crime.

See? You don't know me at all.

 

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I don't believe it is moving towards that. There's a huge difference between abortion and poor prenatal care.

Just explain how abortion can be murder but poor prenatal care isn't child abuse.

 

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No, you have already supplied enough ridiculousness.

Don't feel sad if you can't keep up. Not everyone is suited for adult conversation. I'm sure if you look, you can find a child somewhere to chat with.

 

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Just explain how abortion can be murder but poor prenatal care isn't child abuse.

It is child abuse. I won't argue that point.

What the remedy is for such abuses?
I really don't know. I'm not a lawyer or play one on the internet.

Thus is no different from premeditated murder versus 2nd degree murder except now child abuse. Premeditated vs involuntary abuse. (Didn't know she was pregnant)

What about those mothers who are addicted to narcotics? Can't stop the heroine until she is literally handcuffed and incarcerated. Those babies are severely handicapped.

Then what about post birth abuse where the child is deliberately gender confused? Got a lot of liberal people deliberately confusing their children about their gender.

People's willingness to inflict abuse seems to go hand in hand with ability without consequences. Currently in many states corporal punishment is against the law. (Spanking).
But...it still happens anyway. Nobody seems to care. Some people advocate in favor of spanking an unruly child in violation of the law.

Children in state custody are not ever spanked. (Good reasons too....they are already abused).

 

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I am asking how one differentiates once one begins with the supposition that the fertilized egg is a full fledged person. Nothing you have Said has answered that. Your insistence that things are different is just so much obfuscation on your part.

A "fertilized egg" is a human being in their earliest form of development.

 

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I am asking how one differentiates once one begins with the supposition that the fertilized egg is a full fledged person. Nothing you have Said has answered that. Your insistence that things are different is just so much obfuscation on your part.

It's a human being the entire time from conception to death. At every stage along the way possessing the full properties that are appropriate for that stage of the human life cycle. That's the science.

And no, that wasn't the premise of your OP. The only one obfuscating is you with your ridiculous OP with your ridiculous premise that you can't criminalize abortions unless you criminalize every little thing that might harm the baby.

 

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Just explain how abortion can be murder but poor prenatal care isn't child abuse.

You just said it yourself, one is murder and the other is a form of child abuse. Two different things.