I Hate to Say It, But the January 6 Committee Has Proved that Trump Committed a Serious Crime on January 6, 2021

[rightwinger]

Wrong.....They were called to peacefully assemble and go home in peace.....schumer directed actual violence against the conservative Justices....by name...

And when they didn’t?
What did Trump do next?

What did Trump do to protect his own Vice President?
Send a mob after him?

 

[2aguy]

And when they didn’t?
What did Trump do next?

What did Trump do to protect his own Vice President?
Send a mob after him?

Pence wasn't even in the building.....but thanks for playing.......and the FBI agents in the crowd attacking the police should have stopped the attack...but the blm/antifa brownshirts in the crowd were under orders from the democrat party.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There was a protest on Jan. 6th because so many people watched what happened in that election and felt the numbers didn't add up, GG. Donald Trump got 10 million more votes against Biden then he did against Clinton. Compare that to the millions of votes LESS that Obama got in his second election. Joe Biden got more votes than anyone in American history...a candidate who barely campaigned and was utterly uninspiring when he did...yet he got millions and millions of votes that Obama didn't? It's never added up. It'll never be proven but it doesn't pass the smell test. That's what had people angry on 1/6. It wasn't what Trump was saying...it was what they saw happen with their own eyes.

Yes, Biden got more votes than anyone in history, but a smaller percent than a lot of past presidents. Population growth will do wonders for vote totals. In 2020 there were roughly 20 million more people of voting age than in 2008.

Most of my friends an co-workers voted for Biden, not a one of them because they were all that happy with Biden but because he was not Trump. Trump himself made this past election a battle of "Trump vs Not-Trump" and Not-Trump won. Trump overestimated his favorability based on the devotion of those who were his followers.

 

[BackAgain]

What else do you call those who try to overturn an election?

It doesn’t matter. Nobody tried to turn over an election. Some people did seek to prevent an election from being stolen.

That doesn’t mean it was stolen. They may have been mistaken. But intent matters especially in the proper definition of alleged crimes.

 

[rightwinger]

It doesn’t matter. Nobody tried to turn over an election. Some people did seek to prevent an election from being stolen.

That doesn’t mean it was stolen. They may have been mistaken. But intent matters especially in the proper definition of alleged crimes.

Trump tried to overturn the election through legal and illegal means

 

[BackAgain]

Trump tried to overturn the election through legal and illegal means

President Trump did explore possible legal avenues to prevent what he thought was the egregious theft of the election. There is not the slightest scintilla of evidence that he sought any illegal means and the only thing he wanted to overturn or prevent was a stolen outcome.

 

[Coyote]

Not inclined to do work for ignorant lefties today, when they can just as easily do it themselves.

The history is in the public domain, it's not being disputed. By either side, that i know of.

Why is it when I ask for links from ignora t righties to support their claims they just start flailing around and can't seem to produce any?

 

[rightwinger]

President Trump did explore possible legal avenues to prevent what he thought was the egregious theft of the election. There is not the slightest scintilla of evidence that he sought any illegal means and the only thing he wanted to overturn or prevent was a stolen outcome.

Asking for recounts, audits and legal challenges are legal

Pressuring election officials to overturn the voters and demanding your Vice President overturn the states is not.

 

[BackAgain]

Asking for recounts, audits and legal challenges are legal

Obviously.

Pressuring election officials to overturn the voters and demanding your Vice President overturn the states is not.

Wrong. A. It depends on the meaning of “pressuring” (which is sort of a sneaky thing you just tried to pull). It also depends on the reason for surge requests.

And I don’t believe that there is any evidence that Trump “demanded” any such thing of Pence. Making an ask is not the same thing. Denigrating pence for not complying is also not “demanding.” The proof is really in the outcome. Pence did no such thing. Besides which, it wouldn’t have been to “overturn the states,” anyway. (Whatever that phrase might mean.) It would have been to overturn an attempted theft. A very different matter. And still no illegality.

 

[rightwinger]

Obviously.


Wrong. A. It depends on the meaning of “pressuring” (which is sort of a sneaky thing you just tried to pull). It also depends on the reason for surge requests.

And I don’t believe that there is any evidence that Trump “demanded” any such thing of Pence. Making an ask is not the same thing. Denigrating pence for not complying is also not “demanding.” The proof is really in the outcome. Pence did no such thing. Besides which, it wouldn’t have been to “overturn the states,” anyway. (Whatever that phrase might mean.) It would have been to overturn an attempted theft. A very different matter. And still no illegality.

Trump told Pence if he did not overturn the States that he would not be his friend anymore

Bastard!

 

[sartre play]

We can talk about politicians and the extreme right instigators Or we can talk about the majority, the mindless stop the steal crowd wandering around taking pictures of them self's & messing up OUR capital building. Same as we can talk about the looters agitators & mindless that entered the BLM protests. There all very bad Americans.

 

[BackAgain]

Trump told Pence if he did not overturn the States that he would not be his friend anymore

Bastard!

That is clearly evil. And criminal! I take it all back. This time there might be something to the renewed impeachment effort.

 

[Oldestyle]

Yes, Biden got more votes than anyone in history, but a smaller percent than a lot of past presidents. Population growth will do wonders for vote totals. In 2020 there were roughly 20 million more people of voting age than in 2008.

Most of my friends an co-workers voted for Biden, not a one of them because they were all that happy with Biden but because he was not Trump. Trump himself made this past election a battle of "Trump vs Not-Trump" and Not-Trump won. Trump overestimated his favorability based on the devotion of those who were his followers.

Trump got 10 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, GG! The number of potential voters only went up by 20 million in 12 years according to you so how much did it increase in the four years Trump was in office and out of that number how many do you think actually voted? What you posted makes it even more apparent that Trump and Biden's numbers don't add up!

 

[rightwinger]

Trump got 10 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, GG! The number of potential voters only went up by 20 million in 12 years according to you so how much did it increase in the four years Trump was in office and out of that number how many do you think actually voted? What you posted makes it even more apparent that Trump and Biden's numbers don't add up!

Trump had 84 million votes against him….most in history
What part doesn’t add up?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump got 10 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, GG! The number of potential voters only went up by 20 million in 12 years according to you so how much did it increase in the four years Trump was in office and out of that number how many do you think actually voted? What you posted makes it even more apparent that Trump and Biden's numbers don't add up!

In 2016 voter turnout was low, lower than in 2008. A lot went on during the 4 years of Trump that brought out people to vote on both sides like we had not seen in a while. Whether you wish to admit it or not, Trump is a polarizing figure and that drives people to the voters booth.

Biden gained a higher percent of votes than Trump did in all but 7 states, and 6 of those are deep blue states. Are you going to tell me that there was cheating in ever single state of the union? It is crazy enough to say that the Dems slipped in 20,000 ballots in a swing state and nobody noticed but now you are claiming that every state in the union cheated for Biden.

Why would Wyoming do that? In Wy Biden gained 31% more votes compared to Hillary in 2016. Trump gained 11% more in Wy. Are you claiming that the people in Wy cheated for Biden?

In the deep red state of WV Biden gained 25% more votes compared to Hillary while Trump only gained 11% from 2016. Are you telling me the folks in WV also cheated for Biden?

 

[Resnic]

There are over 74 million trump Nazis that believe their cult leader can do nothing wrong. They are convinced all evidence the House Committee uncovers is false, and that trump's Big Lie is anything but.

With the many red state legislatures passing bills to greatly limit minority voting in their states coupled with the refusal by moderate Senate Democrats to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act of 2021, the trump Nazis will take control of this country early next year.

Fascism wins, the American people lose, including over 74 million trump Nazis.



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Well since the Biden administration is running the show currently there should be absolutely no excuse for evidence not to be exposed, they even have the upper hand at bringing up false evidence and context.

So if the trial doesn't go your way you have no excuses for it to not end with the result you want. So we will see how it all ends.

After all those are pretty much the same arguments made when he was impeached twice as sitting president and nothing came of those. If he gets off a 3rd time you're going to have to finally let it go that he is this meanie evil man.

 

[Oldestyle]

In 2016 voter turnout was low, lower than in 2008. A lot went on during the 4 years of Trump that brought out people to vote on both sides like we had not seen in a while. Whether you wish to admit it or not, Trump is a polarizing figure and that drives people to the voters booth.

Biden gained a higher percent of votes than Trump did in all but 7 states, and 6 of those are deep blue states. Are you going to tell me that there was cheating in ever single state of the union? It is crazy enough to say that the Dems slipped in 20,000 ballots in a swing state and nobody noticed but now you are claiming that every state in the union cheated for Biden.

Why would Wyoming do that? In Wy Biden gained 31% more votes compared to Hillary in 2016. Trump gained 11% more in Wy. Are you claiming that the people in Wy cheated for Biden?

In the deep red state of WV Biden gained 25% more votes compared to Hillary while Trump only gained 11% from 2016. Are you telling me the folks in WV also cheated for Biden?

Trump got more votes than Biden in 24 US States, GG. What are you even babbling about?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump got more votes than Biden in 24 US States, GG. What are you even babbling about?

Every single state in the union had more votes cast in 2020 than in 2016.

I am talking about how much of those "new votes" were gained between 2016 and 2020.

Biden gained a higher percent of votes in 43 states when compared to Hillary in 2016. Trump only gained a higher percent of votes in 7 states when compared to 2016.

How do you account for that in your "they cheated" scenario?

 

[Oldestyle]

Every single state in the union had more votes cast in 2020 than in 2016.

I am talking about how much of those "new votes" were gained between 2016 and 2020.

Biden gained a higher percent of votes in 43 states when compared to Hillary in 2016. Trump only gained a higher percent of votes in 7 states when compared to 2016.

How do you account for that in your "they cheated" scenario?

LOL...all that shows is how much disdain people had for Hillary, GG! The fact that they didn't turn out after the way her campaign and the DNC screwed over Bernie Sanders shouldn't have shocked anyone. Just think how few votes Hillary would have gotten if the main stream media hadn't been smearing Trump with her Russian Collusion lies?

Trump's totals were already high in 2016 and then he added to them in 2020. He added Hispanic votes...he added black votes. Once again...how is what you're posting proof that election wasn't fraudulent?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

LOL...all that shows is how much disdain people had for Hillary, GG! The fact that they didn't turn out after the way her campaign and the DNC screwed over Bernie Sanders shouldn't have shocked anyone

True. It is why turnout was so low in 2016. The same factors were not at play in 2020.

Trump's totals were already high in 2016 and then he added to them in 2020. He added Hispanic votes...he added black votes. Once again...how is what you're posting proof that election wasn't fraudulent?

There is no proof it was not fraudulent as one cannot prove a negative.

I am asking you if you really, truly believe the people of Wyoming and WV and Utah and many other deep red states really cheated for Biden?