'I had obligation to defend rapist'

[Katzndogz]

In a trial, the defendant matters very little. It becomes a contest solely between the prosecutor and defense attorney. Are you good. Can you win. That's all that matters. No one wants or respects a defense attorney that makes moral judgments and plans to lose. If they want to lose, they should go into probate or estate planning.

 

[ogibillm]

So. Criminal defense attorney usually want criminals to defend. It sort of goes with the territory.

You're smarter than this. She was not obligated due to a court appointment.

She took the job, cool. Why lie about it? Because she wants to put lipstick on the pig.

What it comes down to is that she knowingly took money to get a child rapist off with a slap on the wrist and then bragged and joked about it.

I know attorneys that turn down cases all the time...yet are still very successful.

It is known as applying your ethics.

Something she doesn't have...and seems pleased to admit it.

i see.

so people perceived to be guilty don't have the right to counsel. after all, in your world an 'ethical' lawyer wouldn't take the case if it looked like they were guilty.

 

[rightwinger]

'I had obligation to defend rapist'

It is the American system of justice

 

[ogibillm]

She was not obligated, she chose to. She agreed to defend the rapist after being asked by the prosecutor because the scumbag wanted a female attny. She was not court appointed.

So. Criminal defense attorney usually want criminals to defend. It sort of goes with the territory.

You're smarter than this. She was not obligated due to a court appointment.

She took the job, cool. Why lie about it? Because she wants to put lipstick on the pig.

you keep saying this, but you don't offer anything to prove it.

 

[Jarhead]

IMO, it takes ethics to defend a child rapist. Been there done that got the go cup. It sucked. But you either believe in the constitution or you don't.

Are you saying you are an attorney?

Because if you are, I don't believe you.

Only for one reason.....

AN attorney does not need to "assume innocent until proven guilty".

As a matter of fact, they are taught NOT TO.

They are taught to determine if, in fact, they can defend the person OR if they believe in the person.

So my guess is you are not an attorney.

 

[Jarhead]

You're smarter than this. She was not obligated due to a court appointment.

She took the job, cool. Why lie about it? Because she wants to put lipstick on the pig.

What it comes down to is that she knowingly took money to get a child rapist off with a slap on the wrist and then bragged and joked about it.

I know attorneys that turn down cases all the time...yet are still very successful.

It is known as applying your ethics.

Something she doesn't have...and seems pleased to admit it.

i see.

so people perceived to be guilty don't have the right to counsel. after all, in your world an 'ethical' lawyer wouldn't take the case if it looked like they were guilty.

Exactly true.

If an attorney believes a client to be guilty, he or she is advised to NOT take the case as it will compromise their ability to convince a judge or jury of his/her innocence.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Another idiot posting is all I see in your posts.

 

[ogibillm]

What it comes down to is that she knowingly took money to get a child rapist off with a slap on the wrist and then bragged and joked about it.

I know attorneys that turn down cases all the time...yet are still very successful.

It is known as applying your ethics.

Something she doesn't have...and seems pleased to admit it.

i see.

so people perceived to be guilty don't have the right to counsel. after all, in your world an 'ethical' lawyer wouldn't take the case if it looked like they were guilty.

Exactly true.

If an attorney believes a client to be guilty, he or she is advised to NOT take the case as it will compromise their ability to convince a judge or jury of his/her innocence.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Another idiot posting is all I see in your posts.

so you fundamentally disagree with our legal system and believe that only the perceived innocent should be represented.

and then you have the gall to call me an idiot?

if anything this case proves professional ethics - regardless of personal belief his defense attorney worked hard to defend him and earn an acquittal.

 

[R.D.]

So. Criminal defense attorney usually want criminals to defend. It sort of goes with the territory.

You're smarter than this. She was not obligated due to a court appointment.

She took the job, cool. Why lie about it? Because she wants to put lipstick on the pig.

you keep saying this, but you don't offer anything to prove it.

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

 

[Katzndogz]

Why the Mitt love? Has there ever been a more miserable candidate? He made Kerry look like granite.

Probably because he was so right on so many issues. Circumstances and events have turned him from a miserable candidate into a firecracker. His speeches are being revisited because they are more relevant today than when they were made.

Hillary is flaming out. It's a good thing she didn't actually declare herself as a candidate. She doesn't have to withdraw. Hillary is now trying to defend her possible candidacy by comparing herself to a Roosevelt or Adams, or even a Bush. It's not helping and just making herself look even more foolish. In a few days, she's dropped 11 points among democrats.

Democrats want to abandon Hillary in favor of Elizabeth Warren seeing her as the most likely to carry on the obama legacy. This supposes that the public wants the obama legacy carried on.

 

[Jarhead]

i see.

so people perceived to be guilty don't have the right to counsel. after all, in your world an 'ethical' lawyer wouldn't take the case if it looked like they were guilty.

Exactly true.

If an attorney believes a client to be guilty, he or she is advised to NOT take the case as it will compromise their ability to convince a judge or jury of his/her innocence.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Another idiot posting is all I see in your posts.

so you fundamentally disagree with our legal system and believe that only the perceived innocent should be represented.

and then you have the gall to call me an idiot?

if anything this case proves professional ethics - regardless of personal belief his defense attorney worked hard to defend him and earn an acquittal.

I did not say that.

You have trouble with reading comprehension I see.

I said if one perceives the prospective client as guilty, one has the ethical obligation to turn down the case as it will compromise the attorneys ability to convince the judge and/or the jury of his/her innocence.

Just because one sees him as guilty does not mean all see him as guilty.

Learn to read, then get back to me.

 

[ogibillm]

You're smarter than this. She was not obligated due to a court appointment.

She took the job, cool. Why lie about it? Because she wants to put lipstick on the pig.

you keep saying this, but you don't offer anything to prove it.

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

 

[Jarhead]

i see.

so people perceived to be guilty don't have the right to counsel. after all, in your world an 'ethical' lawyer wouldn't take the case if it looked like they were guilty.

Exactly true.

If an attorney believes a client to be guilty, he or she is advised to NOT take the case as it will compromise their ability to convince a judge or jury of his/her innocence.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Another idiot posting is all I see in your posts.

so you fundamentally disagree with our legal system and believe that only the perceived innocent should be represented.

and then you have the gall to call me an idiot?

if anything this case proves professional ethics - regardless of personal belief his defense attorney worked hard to defend him and earn an acquittal.

Spoken by an idiot who believed Romney had an ethics issue because he mad money by buying failing companies and whereas most of the time he saved those companies and the jobs with them, sometimes he failed and the jobs were lost.

Get a freaking brain you moron.

 

[ogibillm]

Exactly true.

If an attorney believes a client to be guilty, he or she is advised to NOT take the case as it will compromise their ability to convince a judge or jury of his/her innocence.

You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Another idiot posting is all I see in your posts.

so you fundamentally disagree with our legal system and believe that only the perceived innocent should be represented.

and then you have the gall to call me an idiot?

if anything this case proves professional ethics - regardless of personal belief his defense attorney worked hard to defend him and earn an acquittal.

Spoken by an idiot who believed Romney had an ethics issue because he mad money by buying failing companies and whereas most of the time he saved those companies and the jobs with them, sometimes he failed and the jobs were lost.

Get a freaking brain you moron.

i don't recall making that argument. do you have another straw man you'd like to try on me?

 

[Jarhead]

you keep saying this, but you don't offer anything to prove it.

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

LMAO...

A judge can NOT insist that a private attorney represent a paying client.

Ever.

LMAO...you will believe anything that meets your needs.

 

[Jarhead]

so you fundamentally disagree with our legal system and believe that only the perceived innocent should be represented.

and then you have the gall to call me an idiot?

if anything this case proves professional ethics - regardless of personal belief his defense attorney worked hard to defend him and earn an acquittal.

Spoken by an idiot who believed Romney had an ethics issue because he mad money by buying failing companies and whereas most of the time he saved those companies and the jobs with them, sometimes he failed and the jobs were lost.

Get a freaking brain you moron.

i don't recall making that argument. do you have another straw man you'd like to try on me?

Of course you didn't.

Asshole.

 

[ogibillm]

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

LMAO...

A judge can NOT insist that a private attorney represent a paying client.

Ever.

LMAO...you will believe anything that meets your needs.

i choose to believe the people involved - unless someone can offer proof otherwise.

 

[R.D.]

you keep saying this, but you don't offer anything to prove it.

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don't want to represent this guy. I just can't stand this. I don't want to get involved. Can you get me off?”

He's lying. This would have come out of her mouth if true

 

[ogibillm]

Disprove it. When the story first broke it was the reason given in every report I read. As a favor to the prosecutor she took the case.

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don't want to represent this guy. I just can't stand this. I don't want to get involved. Can you get me off?”

He's lying. This would have come out of her mouth if true

she did say that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/08clinton.html?_r=0

your turn.

 

[Jarhead]

Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

LMAO...

A judge can NOT insist that a private attorney represent a paying client.

Ever.

LMAO...you will believe anything that meets your needs.

i choose to believe the people involved - unless someone can offer proof otherwise.

Really?

So you prefer to believe someone who very well may be a Hillary supporter over the law?

Find me anything that says that a judge can ORDER a private attorney to represent someone she believes is guilty and refuses to defend.

Jesus....use your ******* brain.

 

[Jarhead]

Excerpt from the article...

"“I told her, ‘Well contact the judge and see what he says about it,’ but I also said don't jump on him and make him mad,” Gibson said. “She contacted the judge and the judge didn't remove her and she stayed on the case.”

Nowhere does it say that she exercised her right to say "no" to the case as she was no longer a public defender.

It is all rhetoric to fool people with little ability to apply reason and logic.

And I see it is working.