I Don't Think Anybody's Falling For This

[Lisa558]

Biden has no solution and that's because the pro-gun side doesn't believe there's a problem that requires a solution.
Defunding the police, if done in an appropriate way, could perhaps be a partial solution.

Even those who are carrying guns around for protection, as well as homeowners who sleep with guns under their pillows, depend on police maintaining some semblance of order. If that's taken away from the very wealthy, they will most likely be in favour of changes that are needed.

What will work? What would Trump do?

Probably nothing, because his supporter wouldn't acknowledge anything is needed.

Even this sort of thread can stimulate reasonable discussion sometimes.

It doesn’t help when leftists make armed robbery a misdemeanor!

With control control, the only people with guns will be the lowlife thugs holding up stores. We need to start arresting the scum, getting them off the street, and into prison where they belong.

 

[Donald H]

The inflation is intentional.

Any 18-year-old who has taken Econ 101 knows that his policies - flooding the market with dollars while discouraging workers to get the products to the shelves - are inflationary.

These Marxists are not stupid. They know if they can get the prices up to where most people can’t afford to put food on the table and feed their families, they will have no choice but to vote for enhanced welfare. And that is their goal: get most people onto welfare, dependent on the government largesse for their survival. Then the Marxists can do whatever they want.

The time is fast approaching a guaranteed income and the reason is obvious.

Even China is faced with the same facts, and at the same pace, only somewhat delayed.

But China has picked up the challenge and is acting in a way that might find solutions.

That is, solutions that can eliminate the threat of a Jan. 6th. happening in China.

Will China's communist system that permits controlled and regulated capitalism, find a way?

Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism doesn't appear to be the way! Jan. 6th. was a taste.

The rise of Nazi Germany was the result.

 

[task0778]

Do you think he thought about what he did to Afghanistan on his own?

In all honesty, yeah I do. I think Biden wanted to make a speech on the anniversary of 9/11 that he got us out of Afghanistan and brushed off any concerns about the consequences of doing what he did. He might've talked to Obama about it, but I think it's even money whether Obama told him to go for it or not. But in any case, the responsibility is all Biden's regardless of who advised him.

I suspect that Obama is smart enough to see the shitstorm that Biden was going to create out of his own idiocy, and IMHO probably decided to stay out of it.

 

[Donald H]

It doesn’t help when leftists make armed robbery a misdemeanor!

With control control, the only people with guns will be the lowlife thugs holding up stores. We need to start arresting the scum, getting them off the street, and into prison where they belong.

I'm really just saying that the way of dealing with armed robbers in America doesn't work.

Broadly speaking, America needs to get most of the prisoners back on the streets. That's not something that can be decided today and happens tomorrow.

It requires an attitude that will allow social change.

 

[BluesLegend]

I'm sorry, it's just really hard for me to believe that people are that stupid,.. even though they probably are.

But the left ARE that dishonest.

 

[Jets]

“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.”

Theodore Roosevelt

 

[Lisa558]

The time is fast approaching a guaranteed income and the reason is obvious.

Even China is faced with the same facts, and at the same pace, only somewhat delayed.

But China has picked up the challenge and is acting in a way that might find solutions.

That is, solutions that can eliminate the threat of a Jan. 6th. happening in China.

Will China's communist system that permits controlled and regulated capitalism, find a way?

Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism doesn't appear to be the way! Jan. 6th. was a taste.

The rise of Nazi Germany was the result.

Huh? So if we don’t give lazy people a guaranteed income, we will have Nazi Germany again? Sounds like a threat.

We cannot let that happen. People who want to eat - WORK.

 

[White 6]

I'm really just saying that the way of dealing with armed robbers in America doesn't work.

Broadly speaking, America needs to get most of the prisoners back on the streets. That's not something that can be decided today and happens tomorrow.

It requires an attitude that will allow social change.

Broadly speaking, I am more comfortable with the prisoners where they are. If they could function without resorting to crime, they would not be prisoners and many that do get out, commit crime again. In my opinion, they can just be in forced retirement from their chosen occupations, lifestyles and anti-social modes, formerly practiced in and against society as a whole. If they didn't mind the idea of forced retirement incarceration, they should have changed their own path, that led to it.

 

[Lisa558]

I'm really just saying that the way of dealing with armed robbers in America doesn't work.

Broadly speaking, America needs to get most of the prisoners back on the streets. That's not something that can be decided today and happens tomorrow.

It requires an attitude that will allow social change.

Crime has soared since the leftists decided to coddle the criminals - with the underlying reason “equity” since blacks are committing a disproportionate amount of crime.

I say we start punishing the lowlife scum. I‘m watching TV now, and they are reporting on a POS who just shot and killed four people in a bar in a college town in VA last night.

And it’s EVERYWHERE, especially in the liberal cities, as you know. Look at NYC, where the racist new mayor wants to decriminalize all sorts of awful crimes.

We need to go back to where people didn’t cuddle and make excuses don’t for scumbags and thugs. Reinstitute bail, keep them off the streets until trial, and then lock their asses up. People are losing patience.

 

[JGalt]

Ghost guns are good. We should be carpet bombing countries like Iran, China, Cuba, and Afghanistan with inexpensive untraceable guns so they can overthrow their oppressive regimes. Just like we sent a shitload of these to France in WW2...

FP-45 Liberator - Wikipedia

 

[Donald H]

Crime has soared since the leftists decided to coddle the criminals - with the underlying reason “equity” since blacks are committing a disproportionate amount of crime.

Yes, blacks are committing most of the crime. And I understand that you believe it's because of coddling criminals. And fwiw, the government in power has the most ability to coddle criminals.

I say we start punishing the lowlife scum. I‘m watching TV now, and they are reporting on a POS who just shot and killed four people in a bar in a college town in VA last night.

No need to remind me of the gun problem. But I'm not with you on your suggestion of more punishment. YOu can ask me why if you want to pursue the question.

And it’s EVERYWHERE, especially in the liberal cities, as you know. Look at NYC, where the racist new mayor wants to decriminalize all sorts of awful crimes.

Yes, it's everywhere and especially in big cities, as opposed to large pastures or on farms with a population density of .3 to an acre.

We need to go back to where people didn’t cuddle and make excuses don’t for scumbags and thugs. Reinstitute bail, keep them off the streets until trial, and then lock their asses up. People are losing patience.

You're asking for more of the same failed policies that don't work.

Consider an alternative and ask me if you care enough.

 

[Donald H]

Broadly speaking, I am more comfortable with the prisoners where they are. If they could function without resorting to crime, they would not be prisoners and many that do get out, commit crime again. In my opinion, they can just be in forced retirement from their chosen occupations, lifestyles and anti-social modes, formerly practiced in and against society as a whole. If they didn't mind the idea of forced retirement incarceration, they should have changed their own path, that led to it.

You're not alone. most Americans are comfortable with the status quo. That's the reason why I've said that Americans don't think there's a problem.

 

[task0778]

The time is fast approaching a guaranteed income and the reason is obvious.

Uh, no it isn't. Explain your reason please.

Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism doesn't appear to be the way! Jan. 6th. was a taste.

Dude, we don't have anything close to an uncontrolled and unregulated capitalistic system. Some people think it's already too controlled and over-regulated. And if you think capitalism in any form had anything to do with Jan 6th, then you are sadly mistaken.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, blacks are committing most of the crime. And I understand that you believe it's because of coddling criminals. And fwiw, the government in power has the most ability to coddle criminals.

No need to remind me of the gun problem. But I'm not with you on your suggestion of more punishment. YOu can ask me why if you want to pursue the question.

Yes, it's everywhere and especially in big cities, as opposed to large pastures or on farms with a population density of .3 to an acre.

You're asking for more of the same failed policies that don't work.

Consider an alternative and ask me if you care enough.

But the Dems are going in the opposite direction!

Crime wasn’t great before, so the libs decided to “solve” it by removing penalties for criminal behavior. So it stands to reason that if easing up on thugs resulted in more crime, then toughening up on thugs would result in less - or at least going back to where we were before the libs started their “pro-criminal“ policies.

So that’s the first step.

As fsr as your idea, I’m sure it’s a socialist-leftist thing on getting to the roots, blah-blah, blah, and solving for “inequity,” blah, blah blah. Whatever it is, I’m sure the crux is that the criminal isn’t to blame and that its society’s fault.

 

[Donald H]

I’m sure the crux is that the criminal isn’t to blame and that its society’s fault.

Well, at least you're not sure.
Believe me, it's always society's fault! Always!
It's even society's fault in cases of mental illness being the cause of crime.

That's simply because society can be blamed for lack of social responsibility to deal with the mentally ill. Always!

That's your starting point.

 

[Donald H]

Uh, no it isn't. Explain your reason please.

Automation. nuff said.

Dude, we don't have anything close to an uncontrolled and unregulated capitalistic system. Some people think it's already too controlled and over-regulated. And if you think capitalism in any form had anything to do with Jan 6th, then you are sadly mistaken.

Jan. 6th. was a people's attempted coup. All you're missing is a reason for why the people complied with Trump's suggestions. What did the people want out of it?

After the stolen election lies are put to bed, there's nothing left to do is start facing the question.

 

[task0778]

You're not alone. most Americans are comfortable with the status quo. That's the reason why I've said that Americans don't think there's a problem.

This is where you're wrong, I don't know where you get your ideas from. I would suggest that most of us are NOT comfortable with the amount of crime and our system of justice and we do think there is a problem when people walk into a store and steal whatever they want to and walk out unhindered. We think it's a problem when people are attacked and viciously beaten sometimes to death and for no apparent reason other than they are Asian or Jewish or white.

Believe me, it's always society's fault! Always!
It's even society's fault in cases of mental illness being the cause of crime.

This is total and absolute bullshit. You don't believe in any personal accountability at all, do you?

 

[Road Runner]

These Marxists are not stupid. They know if they can get the prices up to where most people can’t afford to put food on the table and feed their families, they will have no choice but to vote for enhanced welfare. And that is their goal: get most people onto welfare, dependent on the government largesse for their survival. Then the Marxists can do whatever they want.

It's the exact same reason why the democrats keep giving people free money. It's a cause and effect kind of thing. Once people don't want to work anymore, the rest of the economy and how it functions goes down like a set of dominoes.

Yes, now...but I was referring to at the beginning of his campaign and in his first 6 months as President.

Do you think he thought about what he did to Afghanistan on his own? I doubt it. I am sure Obama was behind that. JMO

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[Donald H]

It's the exact same reason why the democrats keep giving people free money. It's a cause and effect kind of thing. Once people don't want to work anymore, the rest of the economy and how it functions goes down like a set of dominoes.

True enough, but again and again you people reinforce the fact that America has problem, but then aren't able to take the next step to consider the reasons why people don't want to work.

So what if other countries are well known to be more socialist leaning and are giving their people much more free money than America gives?

Would that cause them to have a lower 'quality of life' and less 'freedoms'?
And wouldn't they have more murder with guns, rape, black crime, off-white crime, white crime, etc?

 

[Road Runner]

True enough, but again and again you people reinforce the fact that America has problem, but then aren't able to take the next step to consider the reasons why people don't want to work.

So what if other countries are well known to be more socialist leaning and are giving their people much more free money than America gives?

Would that cause them to have a lower 'quality of life' and less 'freedoms'?
And wouldn't they have more murder with guns, rape, black crime, off-white crime, white crime, etc?

Mind rephrasing that? I'm not really sure what you're saying. Maybe you can break it down and make it shorter.