I dont give two craps about israel OR palestine

[Pogo]

Dude, the Jews have been hated for thousands of years. Don't give me that bullshit
And I am well aware the Palestinians are violent and shit. So us the Israeli govt.

The Jews first appear in secular archaeology in 323 BCE in the history of Alexander The Great, as inscribed by Ptolemy one of his 4 greatest generals. Prior to this all we have is Jewish religious history in the Tenakh (Hebrew Old Testament). The Tenakh is consistent with other external archaeology as far back as the Hittites in 1300 BCE however. So whoever was transcribing the Tenakh during mid Roman Empire times was aware of the Hittites several thousand years before modern archaeologists rediscovered them again in the 1940's.

That the Jews were hated is not an accurate portrayal.

That they would not bow to Greek or Roman statues of gods was cause for unrest.

That they rebelled from Roman rule was cause for the sacking of Jerusalem.

That they persecuted and tried to exterminate early Christians with the cooperation of the Roman Emperors is why they were whipsawed after Constantine issued his edict of tolerance in 325 A.D.

The Catholic Church hated them for a while but eventually became tolerant.

Adolf took anti Semitism to a new level and managed to erase Judaism from most of Germany in about 5 years. In France, Italy, and the Balkans the Jews persisted however.

It is Adolf who is most responsible, together with Stalin, for the migrations of massive numbers of Jews to Palestine in the late 1940's.

So Adolf and Stalin unwittingly helped create the new State Of Israel.

And the Palestinians have hated them ever since.

I also suggest you update your archeological knowledge.
There is definite proof of the existence of King David, and also King Solomon for those who wish to bother looking into it:

The Tel Dan Inscription: The First Historical Evidence of King David from the Bible - Biblical Archaeology Society

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Until very recently, there was no evidence outside the Bible for the existence of King David. There are no references to him in Egyptian, Syrian or Assyrian documents of the time, and the many archaeological digs in the City of David failed to turn up so much as a mention of his name. Then, on July 21, 1993, a team of archaeologists led by Prof. Avraham Biran, excavating Tel Dan in the northern Galilee, found a triangular piece of basalt rock, measuring 23 x 36 cm. inscribed in Aramaic. It was subsequently identified as part of a victory pillar erected by the king of Syria and later smashed by an Israelite ruler. The inscription, which dates to the ninth century BCE, that is to say, about a century after David was thought to have ruled Israel, includes the words Beit David ("House" or "Dynasty" of David"). It is the first near-contemporaneous reference to David ever found. It is not conclusive; but it does strongly indicate that a king called David established a dynasty in Israel during the relevant period.

Another piece of significant evidence comes from Dr. Avi Ofer's archaeological survey conducted in the hills of Judea during the last decade, which shows that in the 11th-10th centuries BCE, the population of Judah almost doubled compared to the preceding period. The so-called Rank Size Index (RSI), a method of analyzing the size and positioning of settlements to evaluate to what extent they were a self-contained group, indicates that during this period - David's supposed period - a strong centre of population existed at the edge of the region. Jerusalem is the most likely candidate for this centre.

To sum up the evidence then: in the tenth century BCE, a dynasty was established by David; the population doubled in the hill country of Judah, which acquired a strong central point, probably Jerusalem, a previously settled site that was important enough to be mentioned in Egyptian documents. These facts are certainly consistent with the biblical account; but, before examining the biblical version, we should consider the nature of the Bible and of the historical material it contains.

Myth and Reality of King David's Jerusalem

That can't even be agreed upon in the scientific community. You will need something else besides the tel Dan

Jews do not need anything to "prove" to others that they have their history.
Other people do not, neither does the Jewish Nation.

Proof abounds on the Land of Israel, being dug up every day.

That leaves haters like you............simply hating Jews even more.

What do Jews care about haters like you?

Not at all.

I'm not a hater. That's stupid.
I'm just more of a reality, skeptic type of guy. I don't buy the bible as fact. I don't buy unfounded accusations either. I am quite Aware of how quick humans are to manipulate to satisfy an agenda. Especially of that magnitude.

Let me second this so it comes from a third party. Harley and I prolly don't agree much on issues, but he is honest, and brings a healthy skepticism. I've never known him to be a hater, and Six's taking a point out for a walk in the woods is the same thing he was trying to do with mine. Of the two, Harley's way more honest.

So there.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The problem here is this:

Arab strategists have created an entire simplified version of history calculated quite cynically to appeal to the ignorant portion of the world left. First, they created a brand new people that had not existed and then retrofitted their existence back in time. This was undertaken to reverse the reality that it wasn't Arabs with all their considerable land and resources against Jews who had just this tiny sliver of marginal land, but of mighty Israelis against the poor, little Palestinians. It relied upon an emotional appear targeting the stupid.

After creating this new group, they then set about to mimic the language of other struggles. if you study the prattle of their illiberal western useful idiots, it is replete with references to "colonialism" (which only an utter moron would think the case, "apartheid" (despite the fact Arabs living in Israel have more rights than they do anywhere in Arab lands) and "Indigenous peoples" (despite the fact there are Jewish archeological remains dating back 3500 years and these brand, new "Palestinians" have existed for less than a century).

Today's authoritarian leftists, short on knowledge but eminently trainable, simply repeat all the cliché's they have been manipulated to repeat and do not look any further than that.

You want to get on my ass about semantics and your dumbass just said "arab strategists created Palestinians? Are they ******* grown in a lab?
LOL wtf

I realize you are too ignorant to know any better, but yes -- the term "Palestinain" used to describe local Arabs is a fabrication of the 20th century.


Before being encouraged to call themselves such, they were merely Arabs.

Izzat so.

>> The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][10][11][12][13][14] In the treatise Meteorology c.340 BC, Aristotle wrote, "there is a lake in Palestine".[15][16][17][18] This is understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[19] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[20] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria[a] ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[21][22]

In 135 CE, the Greek "Syria Palaestina" was used in naming a new Roman province from the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea after the Roman authorities crushed the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

.... The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,<< (Wiki)

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Now I'm not a mathematician but I do understand linear time, and that looks to be at least 2500 years.

And then there's this:

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A tune popularly known as "Lena from Palesteena". This record came out in 1920.

Change geography and history all you like.

Until the Arabs adopted the term Palestinian to define their nationalism, Palestine was always used to refer to a Region. Not a Nation, or a People.
There is no history anywhere and by any people which refers to a People or a Nation calling themselves "Palestinians" from "Palestine". Much less any Arabs.

The Mandate for Palestine referred to the region of ancient Jewish homeland because the British did not want to call it Israel. That would have been too easy and would have meant that the British government approved of the Jews regaining sovereignty over any part of their ancient homeland.
And the British never meant for the Jews to actually achieve statehood.
(Why, oh why did they end up on the Hashemite (Jordan) side attacking the Jews after they declared Independence in May of 1948? )

The Arabs after WWI wanted to be part of Greater Syria. They did not envision any Palestine State, but all of the Mandate for Palestine as part of the Arab Nation (or Muslim Nation) which is what they have always identified as, living in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, or anywhere else.

Where does the Nationality of "Palestinians" come from?

Ask the KGB.

If there were always a people who called themselves Palestinians, then why are they not identified as such before the Mandate for Palestine where both Arabs and Jews were called Palestinians and given a Palestinian passport if desired?

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

Historically, the Palestinian “desire for statehood” and “need for liberation” was invented in large part by the Soviet Union. It is no coincidence that the blueprint for the PLO Charter was drafted in Moscow in 1964 and was approved by 422 Palestinian representative hand selected by the KGB. At that time, the USSR was in the business of creating people’s liberation fronts. The KGB founded the PLO as well as the National Liberation Army of Bolivia (1964) with Ernesto “Che” Guevara at its head and the National Liberation Army of Colombia (1965).

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So the question to your comment is:

So what if there is a 1920 record with uses the word Palestine?

Look, or rather listen to the record:



It does not sound as if it is about any Palestinian Arabs, does it?
Hint, the band is Jewish, and the Region/Area, was being called Palestine for the sake of the Mandate for recreation of the Jewish Ancient homeland.
Before....the British government decided to take out 77% of that mandate for the Jews and give it to the Hashemite Arabs to create what became Jordan.

Oh, by the way, ALL JEWS living in Transjordan were systematically murdered out of their properties or run out of there by 1925, and never allowed to return.

Oh you moron --- that band is Italian, not Jewish (meaning USians of Italian heritage).

Everything after the initial sentence above is wasted energy. My point there had nothing to do with "nations" or "Arabs" or whatever Tangent Turnpike you paid a toll to travel. It's simply demonstrating that the name "Palestine" -- the word itself --- is thousands of years old and was not, as the previous poster would have had us believe, invented in the 20th century.

Kudos for posting the original record from 1920 --- in which time, by the same point, it would not have been used in a popular music publication if "Palestine" were an unknown word.

Every time I go by this name the song starts playing in my head, and I used to play it with a singer. It wasn't my choice but I found it musically interesting --- the composition is so Twenties. So here's another version from the same year:

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Were the composers of the song Italians? I am seeing a lot of Jewish bands and even Eddie Cantor singing it. So, is it an Italian song?

Your waste of bad manners is fascinating, but the word Palestine was hardly ever used before the British decided to use it as the title for their mandate for the Jewish homeland.
And it was always used to refer to a region, and not a country or a people.
Po

I did not say that the word Palestine was unknown, what I said was that even after the Romans renamed Judea as Syria Palestinia, the word was not very in use. Any more than the word for Jerusalem was being used.
Did the Byzantine, Muslims, Crusaders, Ottomans or visitors to the area refer to it as Palestine, or to Jerusalem as Aurelia Capitolia?
From what I know , NO.

The "invention" is of a people calling themselves Palestinian. The Arab leaders only adopted that term for the Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza in 1964. And only to make themselves the indigenous people of the land, instead of the Jews.

If the British had chosen the term Al Jazira to call their Mandate for the Jewish Homeland, the Palestinian Arabs would be now called Al Jazirans, or something to that effect.
Before that, before 1948 and the creation of Israel, they all wanted to be part of Greater Syria as they considered themselves to be part of Syria.
They would all have become of what is going on in Syria.

Whether the region was called Palestine 3,000 years ago because of the Phillistines (no connection to the Arab Palestinians) or they got the name from the region already being called Palestine by some, it does not matter.

There was no Nation called Palestine.
There was no People called Palestinians 5,000 - 4,000 - 3,000 (it was mostly known as Canaan), 2,000 or even after the Romans changed Judea to Palestine to destroy the Jews (not a Palestinian around) after 135 CE.

Arabs have never been indigenous of Ancient Canaan (call it Palestine if you like), they have no history in the region before the Romans (where a group of them helped the Roman legions against the Jews until 135 CE).

And there is not Arab history in the region until the Arab Muslims invaded the region and took the land from the Byzantine.

No 10,000 year of history in "Palestine" as Abbas likes to tell.
No 5,000 year history.
No 3,000 year history.
No 2,000 year history.

Arabs calling themselves Palestinians only began in 1964 when Arafat with the KGB adopted that word in order to delegitimize Israel and the Jews as the indigenous people of the land.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Jews first appear in secular archaeology in 323 BCE in the history of Alexander The Great, as inscribed by Ptolemy one of his 4 greatest generals. Prior to this all we have is Jewish religious history in the Tenakh (Hebrew Old Testament). The Tenakh is consistent with other external archaeology as far back as the Hittites in 1300 BCE however. So whoever was transcribing the Tenakh during mid Roman Empire times was aware of the Hittites several thousand years before modern archaeologists rediscovered them again in the 1940's.

That the Jews were hated is not an accurate portrayal.

That they would not bow to Greek or Roman statues of gods was cause for unrest.

That they rebelled from Roman rule was cause for the sacking of Jerusalem.

That they persecuted and tried to exterminate early Christians with the cooperation of the Roman Emperors is why they were whipsawed after Constantine issued his edict of tolerance in 325 A.D.

The Catholic Church hated them for a while but eventually became tolerant.

Adolf took anti Semitism to a new level and managed to erase Judaism from most of Germany in about 5 years. In France, Italy, and the Balkans the Jews persisted however.

It is Adolf who is most responsible, together with Stalin, for the migrations of massive numbers of Jews to Palestine in the late 1940's.

So Adolf and Stalin unwittingly helped create the new State Of Israel.

And the Palestinians have hated them ever since.

I also suggest you update your archeological knowledge.
There is definite proof of the existence of King David, and also King Solomon for those who wish to bother looking into it:

The Tel Dan Inscription: The First Historical Evidence of King David from the Bible - Biblical Archaeology Society

-----------
Until very recently, there was no evidence outside the Bible for the existence of King David. There are no references to him in Egyptian, Syrian or Assyrian documents of the time, and the many archaeological digs in the City of David failed to turn up so much as a mention of his name. Then, on July 21, 1993, a team of archaeologists led by Prof. Avraham Biran, excavating Tel Dan in the northern Galilee, found a triangular piece of basalt rock, measuring 23 x 36 cm. inscribed in Aramaic. It was subsequently identified as part of a victory pillar erected by the king of Syria and later smashed by an Israelite ruler. The inscription, which dates to the ninth century BCE, that is to say, about a century after David was thought to have ruled Israel, includes the words Beit David ("House" or "Dynasty" of David"). It is the first near-contemporaneous reference to David ever found. It is not conclusive; but it does strongly indicate that a king called David established a dynasty in Israel during the relevant period.

Another piece of significant evidence comes from Dr. Avi Ofer's archaeological survey conducted in the hills of Judea during the last decade, which shows that in the 11th-10th centuries BCE, the population of Judah almost doubled compared to the preceding period. The so-called Rank Size Index (RSI), a method of analyzing the size and positioning of settlements to evaluate to what extent they were a self-contained group, indicates that during this period - David's supposed period - a strong centre of population existed at the edge of the region. Jerusalem is the most likely candidate for this centre.

To sum up the evidence then: in the tenth century BCE, a dynasty was established by David; the population doubled in the hill country of Judah, which acquired a strong central point, probably Jerusalem, a previously settled site that was important enough to be mentioned in Egyptian documents. These facts are certainly consistent with the biblical account; but, before examining the biblical version, we should consider the nature of the Bible and of the historical material it contains.

Myth and Reality of King David's Jerusalem

That can't even be agreed upon in the scientific community. You will need something else besides the tel Dan

Jews do not need anything to "prove" to others that they have their history.
Other people do not, neither does the Jewish Nation.

Proof abounds on the Land of Israel, being dug up every day.

That leaves haters like you............simply hating Jews even more.

What do Jews care about haters like you?

Not at all.

I'm not a hater. That's stupid.
I'm just more of a reality, skeptic type of guy. I don't buy the bible as fact. I don't buy unfounded accusations either. I am quite Aware of how quick humans are to manipulate to satisfy an agenda. Especially of that magnitude.

Let me second this so it comes from a third party. Harley and I prolly don't agree much on issues, but he is honest, and brings a healthy skepticism. I've never known him to be a hater, and Six's taking a point out for a walk in the woods is the same thing he was trying to do with mine. Of the two, Harley's way more honest.

So there.

The Inquisition were not haters
The Nazis were not haters
Arafat and Abbas are not haters

They only had and have a point of view, as both of you do.

And THAT point of view, is the problem.

Points of views are not facts.
And wrong points of view have always brought bad repercussions to those on the other side of the coin.

Something to think about.

 

[fanger]

The Jews, with the help of the Romans, tried to exterminate the early Christians because they threatened Judaism. Once Christianity became the state religion of Rome, Christians, in an unchristian manner, sought revenge. Later, it was just that Jews were a pain in the ass.

More antisemtic canards from the mentally ill antisemite. I have never seen anybody so obsessed with demonizng those evil Jooooos. You can shove your fake crocodile tears up your kazoo, more Christians have been killed and are currently being killed at the hands of Muslims.

Aren't Arabs also Semites too?

Yes. But the definition for antisemitism is hatred of Jews, you illiterate buffoon.

I miss the early days of the internet, when not everybody owned a computer, and so the process tended to select for intelligence.

Now that every dull-witted imbecile has one, we have to deal with idiotic crap like we see here.

I bet you also miss the days before internet when bullshit and fake news were taken as the truth

 

[Roudy]

More antisemtic canards from the mentally ill antisemite. I have never seen anybody so obsessed with demonizng those evil Jooooos. You can shove your fake crocodile tears up your kazoo, more Christians have been killed and are currently being killed at the hands of Muslims.

Aren't Arabs also Semites too?

Yes. But the definition for antisemitism is hatred of Jews, you illiterate buffoon.

So Jews hijacked the term Semite for themselves?

BTW, can you tell a Mizrahi Jew from an Arab?

No "hijacking" it's been the definition since the word was introduced. Yes, usually you can tell.

Many of the biggest anti-Semites are Semites AKA Arabs.

That makes sense, really?

Yes, of course, it's a religious war, you friggin' moron. That's why Sunni's and Shiite's and Muslims and Christians have been at each other's throats for centuries. The Jews are a small part in the big picture. They have been stuck in this religious tug of war between Muslims and Christians.

 

[Roudy]

So Jews hijacked the term Semite for themselves?

?

Some of you are simply too stupid for words.

The Jews who invented anti-Semitism for themselves must have been too stupid for words.

The word describes assholes like you to the T. Look it up.

 

[Roudy]

The Jews, with the help of the Romans, tried to exterminate the early Christians because they threatened Judaism. Once Christianity became the state religion of Rome, Christians, in an unchristian manner, sought revenge. Later, it was just that Jews were a pain in the ass.

More antisemtic canards from the mentally ill antisemite. I have never seen anybody so obsessed with demonizng those evil Jooooos. You can shove your fake crocodile tears up your kazoo, more Christians have been killed and are currently being killed at the hands of Muslims.

Aren't Arabs also Semites too?

Yes. But the definition for antisemitism is hatred of Jews, you illiterate buffoon.

I miss the early days of the internet, when not everybody owned a computer, and so the process tended to select for intelligence.

Now that every dull-witted imbecile has one, we have to deal with idiotic crap like we see here.

I bet you also miss the days before internet when bullshit and fake news were taken as the truth

Be happy. You must be one of the dull-witted morons Dog was describing.

 

[fanger]

you're an Arab Jew right roudy?

 

[Roudy]

..

Do ever question WHY so many people hate Jews?

...

No, it is obvious.

Worthless pieces of pure excrement who amount to nothing in life and know they are lacking in anything that would even make them human cannot deal with the fact they are excrement, and so look for a convenient group to hate, instead.

Sounds like you are filled with hate and then lash out at others for your own inadequacies in this area.

What makes anti-Semitism attractive to sub humans such as yourself is that the canards surrounding Jews whip up resentment based upon the fact Jews are successful wherever they have lived,...

In truth, they have been thrown out of everywhere they have lived.

...you just blame Jews because they ARE creative, inventive, and productive.

I highly doubt that that is why they have been thrown out of everywhere they have tried to live.

Maybe you should be preaching this Jew hate sermon at your mosque?

 

[Roudy]

So Jews hijacked the term Semite for themselves?

?

Some of you are simply too stupid for words.

The Jews who invented anti-Semitism for themselves must have been too stupid for words.

I realize you lack the IQ necessary to be educated beyond the level of a young child, but here you go, anyway.

Wilhelm Marr - Wikipedia


Honestly, dealing with some of you prattling imbeciles is like trying to reason with monkeys in a cage throwing poo.

It's not going to help, he enjoys making a fool of himself. The psycho will come back with the same lies and vomit the very next day.

 

[Roudy]

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

I do too. Some wags seem oblivious to the fact that both Arabic and Hebrew are Semitic.

No, it's just that some are too stupid to understand that the term was coined to refer exclusively to Jews and has remained quite consistent in use ever since.

As published in the original German, it had no hyphenation as it was never intended to be anti all Semitic people. It was simply the originator's way of creating a pseudo-scientific term to make such views more palpable.

Goodness, for a boy who likes to tout his education, you sure don't know very much about the world.

Ummm....yyyyeah....

>> Se·mit·ic
səˈmidik/
adjective
adjective: Semitic

1. 1.
   relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. 2.
   relating to the peoples who speak the Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic. <<

Do you just, like, not bother to look anything up before posting?

I have never "touted my education". I simply exercise it. I know that's like sacrilege to the Cult of Ignorance but hey, **** it.

The word Semitic refer to languages.

The term Antisemitism refers to only Jews.

anti-Semitism

Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites.

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Blame the misuse of the word on Wilhelm Marr, a true blue Jew hater.
Before that the term used was Judeophobia.
He decided to give it a "scientific" touch.

Soooo you're admitting that "anti-Semitic" means what it says, and not "anti-Jew", but advising we should go on misuing it ---- even after we know better?

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir"?

Again, the origin of this question was he observation by the OP:

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

--- with which sentiment I agree ............ because we know what "Semitic" actually means, therefore we appreciate the irony. It ain't rocket surgery.

semitic and antisemitic have two different definitions, why do you guys lie so much?

Definition of ANTI-SEMITIC

Definition of anti–Semitic

1. : relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group anti-Semitic statements/rhetoric … his critics charge he is anti-Semitic and anti-black, allegations that he denies. — James M. Perry
   

 

[louie888]

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE JEWS? AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MAIN CAUSES THROUGHOUT HISTORY?

 

[Pogo]

It seems Semites are the most hated language group... Including both Arabs, and Jews.... There's perhaps a reasoning for this?

Hard to say -- all I know is whenever I hear somebody speak Aramaic I fly into a rage.

 

[Pogo]

I do too. Some wags seem oblivious to the fact that both Arabic and Hebrew are Semitic.

No, it's just that some are too stupid to understand that the term was coined to refer exclusively to Jews and has remained quite consistent in use ever since.

As published in the original German, it had no hyphenation as it was never intended to be anti all Semitic people. It was simply the originator's way of creating a pseudo-scientific term to make such views more palpable.

Goodness, for a boy who likes to tout his education, you sure don't know very much about the world.

Ummm....yyyyeah....

>> Se·mit·ic
səˈmidik/
adjective
adjective: Semitic

1. 1.
   relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. 2.
   relating to the peoples who speak the Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic. <<

Do you just, like, not bother to look anything up before posting?

I have never "touted my education". I simply exercise it. I know that's like sacrilege to the Cult of Ignorance but hey, **** it.

The word Semitic refer to languages.

The term Antisemitism refers to only Jews.

anti-Semitism

Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites.

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Blame the misuse of the word on Wilhelm Marr, a true blue Jew hater.
Before that the term used was Judeophobia.
He decided to give it a "scientific" touch.

Soooo you're admitting that "anti-Semitic" means what it says, and not "anti-Jew", but advising we should go on misuing it ---- even after we know better?

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir"?

Again, the origin of this question was he observation by the OP:

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

--- with which sentiment I agree ............ because we know what "Semitic" actually means, therefore we appreciate the irony. It ain't rocket surgery.

semitic and antisemitic have two different definitions, why do you guys lie so much?

Definition of ANTI-SEMITIC

Definition of anti–Semitic

1. : relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group anti-Semitic statements/rhetoric … his critics charge he is anti-Semitic and anti-black, allegations that he denies. — James M. Perry

See if you can work it out --- what does the prefix "anti" mean?

Now what does the word "Semitic" mean?

See above post. If not obvious, lather, rinse repeat.

 

[Roudy]

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE JEWS? AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MAIN CAUSES THROUGHOUT HISTORY?

Why did Muslims and Christians kill millions of each other throughout history? Why do Christians in the West want to stop Muslim assholes like you from coming into their countries? Is it Islamophobia or is it just that you guys are backwards ass, violent bigots that import your barbaric ideology with you? Do tell.

 

[louie888]

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE JEWS? AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MAIN CAUSES THROUGHOUT HISTORY?

Why did Muslims and Christians kill millions of each other throughout history? Why do Christians in the West want to stop Muslim assholes like you from coming into their countries? Is it Islamophobia or is it just that you guys are backwards ass, violent bigots that import your barbaric ideology with you? Do tell.

Those are simple questions that need to be addressed . Don't you want to end antisemitism?

 

[Roudy]

No, it's just that some are too stupid to understand that the term was coined to refer exclusively to Jews and has remained quite consistent in use ever since.

As published in the original German, it had no hyphenation as it was never intended to be anti all Semitic people. It was simply the originator's way of creating a pseudo-scientific term to make such views more palpable.

Goodness, for a boy who likes to tout his education, you sure don't know very much about the world.

Ummm....yyyyeah....

>> Se·mit·ic
səˈmidik/
adjective
adjective: Semitic

1. 1.
   relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. 2.
   relating to the peoples who speak the Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic. <<

Do you just, like, not bother to look anything up before posting?

I have never "touted my education". I simply exercise it. I know that's like sacrilege to the Cult of Ignorance but hey, **** it.

The word Semitic refer to languages.

The term Antisemitism refers to only Jews.

anti-Semitism

Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites.

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Blame the misuse of the word on Wilhelm Marr, a true blue Jew hater.
Before that the term used was Judeophobia.
He decided to give it a "scientific" touch.

Soooo you're admitting that "anti-Semitic" means what it says, and not "anti-Jew", but advising we should go on misuing it ---- even after we know better?

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir"?

Again, the origin of this question was he observation by the OP:

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

--- with which sentiment I agree ............ because we know what "Semitic" actually means, therefore we appreciate the irony. It ain't rocket surgery.

semitic and antisemitic have two different definitions, why do you guys lie so much?

Definition of ANTI-SEMITIC

Definition of anti–Semitic

1. : relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group anti-Semitic statements/rhetoric … his critics charge he is anti-Semitic and anti-black, allegations that he denies. — James M. Perry

See if you can work it out --- what does the prefix "anti" mean?

Now what does the word "Semitic" mean?

See above post. If not obvious, lather, rinse repeat.

The definition is pretty clear. I don't see what the argument is. You want to create a new definition, take it up with Webster. LOL

 

[Roudy]

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE JEWS? AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MAIN CAUSES THROUGHOUT HISTORY?

Why did Muslims and Christians kill millions of each other throughout history? Why do Christians in the West want to stop Muslim assholes like you from coming into their countries? Is it Islamophobia or is it just that you guys are backwards ass, violent bigots that import your barbaric ideology with you? Do tell.

Those are simple questions that need to be addressed . Don't you want to end antisemitism?

There will always be bigot garbages of humanity like you. Some people hate Blacks, some hate Whites, Asians, and some are mentally ill antisemites. You are just upset and jealous that Jews despite all the oppression and persecution have persevered and succeeded throughout history.

 

[Sixties Fan]

No, it's just that some are too stupid to understand that the term was coined to refer exclusively to Jews and has remained quite consistent in use ever since.

As published in the original German, it had no hyphenation as it was never intended to be anti all Semitic people. It was simply the originator's way of creating a pseudo-scientific term to make such views more palpable.

Goodness, for a boy who likes to tout his education, you sure don't know very much about the world.

Ummm....yyyyeah....

>> Se·mit·ic
səˈmidik/
adjective
adjective: Semitic

1. 1.
   relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. 2.
   relating to the peoples who speak the Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic. <<

Do you just, like, not bother to look anything up before posting?

I have never "touted my education". I simply exercise it. I know that's like sacrilege to the Cult of Ignorance but hey, **** it.

The word Semitic refer to languages.

The term Antisemitism refers to only Jews.

anti-Semitism

Anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time. Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites.

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Blame the misuse of the word on Wilhelm Marr, a true blue Jew hater.
Before that the term used was Judeophobia.
He decided to give it a "scientific" touch.

Soooo you're admitting that "anti-Semitic" means what it says, and not "anti-Jew", but advising we should go on misuing it ---- even after we know better?

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir"?

Again, the origin of this question was he observation by the OP:

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

--- with which sentiment I agree ............ because we know what "Semitic" actually means, therefore we appreciate the irony. It ain't rocket surgery.

semitic and antisemitic have two different definitions, why do you guys lie so much?

Definition of ANTI-SEMITIC

Definition of anti–Semitic

1. : relating to or characterized by anti-Semitism : feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group anti-Semitic statements/rhetoric … his critics charge he is anti-Semitic and anti-black, allegations that he denies. — James M. Perry

See if you can work it out --- what does the prefix "anti" mean?

Now what does the word "Semitic" mean?

See above post. If not obvious, lather, rinse repeat.

Get in touch with Wilhelm Marr and ask him why in the world did he have to use the words anti and then semitic to coin "being against Jews".
Judeophobia worked for 1700 before that.

A good seance session might work. He has only been dead for about 150 years.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

[louie888]

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE JEWS? AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MAIN CAUSES THROUGHOUT HISTORY?

Why did Muslims and Christians kill millions of each other throughout history? Why do Christians in the West want to stop Muslim assholes like you from coming into their countries? Is it Islamophobia or is it just that you guys are backwards ass, violent bigots that import your barbaric ideology with you? Do tell.

Those are simple questions that need to be addressed . Don't you want to end antisemitism?

There will always be bigot garbages of humanity like you. Some people hate Blacks, some hate Whites, Asians, and some are mentally ill antisemites. You are just upset and jealous that Jews despite all the oppression and persecution have persevered and succeeded throughout history.

You're slow, I am Jewish and you should know that by now.

And finally! Thank-you for answering a simple question, but if you are honestly trying to say that Jew hatred throughout history is because of jealousy, then you are more delusional than I previously imagined.

I mean you sound like that high school chick that everyone hated and she would explain it away as "because they are just jealous."