Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unless you are talking about something you have done personally, no.


Your call but if you are doing it because people hate Jews, that's not going to make them stop hating you.

I love the hate. Problem is I d be a hypocrite if I didn’t leave. I hate Jews who are Democrats

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not sure what will change in reality. You said you are not a religious Jew, so you are hardly any different in every day life from an average American. So, what will change? You won't celebrate some Jewish family holidays? You quite saying you are of Jewish descent? And who you will be if someone asks? Russian?

I will cease celebrating all Jewish holidays. My kids will not call themselves Jewish. Yes, Russian/American.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If you were “not religious” in the first place, how is “taking a break” from being a Jew going to help?

It means I will not abide by the culture, celebrate the holidays, call myself Jewish, etc.

 

[Failzero]

That will never change. One can be a Zionist but not a Jew

One can be an Ethnic Only Non Practicing Jew who is a Marxist America hater too

 

[ESay]

I will cease celebrating all Jewish holidays. My kids will not call themselves Jewish. Yes, Russian/American.

Okay, if that makes you feel better or safer. But you maybe know that that won't make you 'our guy' for the Russians, either.

 

[Toro]

I have been posting here but rarely. I even walked away for a while. Recent events have made me understand my culture and faith on a higher level. I am a Jew, a son of parents whose parents fought the Nazis in the old Soviet Union. I lost a vast amount of my ancestors to WW2 and the Holocaust. There are very few of us left in the world. The vitriol against Jews remains high. With my kids ready for college, I cannot have them be under fire because of the hatred. We saw on our college campuses how most colleges took the side of protesters and even told Jewish students to study remotely. They cancelled graduations. They appeased those who would call for the end of Israel and for blatant antisemitism.

What unified both the far left and far right is their hatred of Jews. I get it form the Left. They see Jews as wealthy oppressors and white. That to them means evil. I see it from the Nazi alt right too. They want Hitler to finish what he started. What was troubling is that the moderates began to hate too.

Why?

Then it came to me. We bring this upon ourselves. People like Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Alejandro Mayorkas (yes he is a Jew), etc.

Let’s take Schiff for example. He bashed Hur for calling Biden a senile old man only to now ask Biden to step down because, well he is a senile old man. Why? Their lies were exposed. Schiff always knew this but lied to the American people. This feeds into the hateful narrative that Jews are deceitful.

Many, hell most Jews still vote Democrat despite the party overtly telling us they don’t want our vote just our money.

The faith is no longer with me. I ll pretend while my parents are still here. But once they are gone, so goes my faith and allegiance to Judaism. Same for my kids.

We are all walking away.

I share this here because despite all the hate this site has, it also has honesty and I respect that.

Writing this will likely result in some posts slamming me. And that’s fine. Actually therapeutic. In the end while I despise low life antisemites, I have to admit that I despise Democrat Jews equally.

Its time to leave the faith.

Thank you for reading.

You shouldn't leave your faith because people in your faith are acting badly.

If you believe in the core tenants of your religion, you should stick with it and try to convince others to follow the teachings of your faith.

 

[rosends]

In what sense were you ever really in the community you are walking away from? Best of luck, but your next step is to use the same logic and walk away from the human race.

 

[ding]

I love the hate. Problem is I d be a hypocrite if I didn’t leave. I hate Jews who are Democrats

How would that make you a hypocrite? If anything it makes you a quitter. Why wouldn't you stay and fight? I'm a Catholic. I'm not leaving my faith because 50% of the flock are liberal leaning. Why would I? Truth is arrived at through a conflict and confusion process. Diversity of thought is critical to the process. Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. If you leave you deprive your "flock" diversity of thought and the ability to explore all sides of an issue.

 

[theHawk]

In what sense were you ever really in the community you are walking away from? Best of luck, but your next step is to use the same logic and walk away from the human race.

^^ wow. We knew the demonic Rabbi would show up. Here he is telling the guy to off himself.

Ladies and Gentlemen, a “Jewish Rabbi”.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

One can be an Ethnic Only Non Practicing Jew who is a Marxist America hater too

Those Jews are traitors and make me sick

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Okay, if that makes you feel better or safer. But you maybe know that that won't make you 'our guy' for the Russians, either.

Don’t care. It’s abhorrent sharing the same faith/culture with the likes of Schiff, Nadler and Schumer.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You shouldn't leave your faith because people in your faith are acting badly.

If you believe in the core tenants of your religion, you should stick with it and try to convince others to follow the teachings of your faith.

It makes me ill sharing the same faith/culture as Schiff, Schumer, Goldman, and Nadler

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How would that make you a hypocrite? If anything it makes you a quitter. Why wouldn't you stay and fight? I'm a Catholic. I'm not leaving my faith because 50% of the flock are liberal leaning. Why would I? Truth is arrived at through a conflict and confusion process. Diversity of thought is critical to the process. Growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth. If you leave you deprive your "flock" diversity of thought and the ability to explore all sides of an issue.

It makes me want to vomit that Schiff is the same faith/culture as I am. He sucks. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greeks and Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, and have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmaties, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality? " -- Mark Twain, September 1897 (Quoted in
The National Jewish Post & Observer, June 6, 1984)

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It makes me want to vomit that Schiff is the same faith/culture as I am. He sucks. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite.

Why not look to the best, and not the worst?

 

[ding]

It makes me want to vomit that Schiff is the same faith/culture as I am. He sucks. He is a liar. He is a hypocrite.

No reason to deny who you are. Who you are - your good name, your heritage, your culture - is the only thing that can not be taken from you, everything else can be taken from you. Why would you give that away?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why not look to the best, and not the worst?

Valid point. I am trying.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No reason to deny who you are. Who you are - your good name, your heritage, your culture - is the only thing that can not be taken from you, everything else can be taken from you. Why would you give that away?

Because too many of “my people” are evil trolls who just stood by as Islamists overran our college campuses

 

[ding]

Because too many of “my people” are evil trolls who just stood by as Islamists overran our college campuses

Ok, your call. I think it's a mistake but it's your mistake to make.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Ok, your call. I think it's a mistake but it's your mistake to make.

Appreciate the honesty