Zone1 I am prepared to call Catholicism a cult

[zaangalewa]

Yes, Bach is for atheists too, or possibly Bach's music audience is primarily atheists by now.

The problem I have with you

You have no problem with me.

is that you've taken our mutual appreciation of classical music and made it into our difference on Christianity. Stop that and we can resume.

You ask a grandson of king David - and a last Mohican - not to be [a fan of] music in all colors and forms? After an attack of terrorists in Israel onto a music festival where people communicated with each other via music and had been stopped to do so by weapons and cruelest violence? After "the Swifties" had not been able in Austria - the land full of music - to celebrate together with her their ways of lifes because otherwise one or more Solingens had happened in Vienna? After the Taliban made laws which ban every influence and joy out of public life for women? ... You have indeed a problem. A very serios problem. And this problem is not me and your absurde idea to like to communicate with a rectangle full of light with some scribbles on it- and think the same time this something should be like you because it likes to speak with you. Do I like to speak with you? Why should I? ... By the way: Are you married? How can your wife put up with you at all with such dirigisme?

 

[zaangalewa]

Why do you think your opinion on anything matters to me? I don't respect you.

Sure you don't respect me. I'm a blond eyed, blue haired German Catholic with Jewish ancestors who is remarried with a Martin Luther. Who should respect me? ... Oh ... Sorry. Sure you respect me, god. But you are a little blinded from your own love into your own creation in this case, aren't you? Once said "it is good" made it always to be good? Are you sure? For us many things do not look well. Why?

I don't care for your behaviors.

That's not my impression .... but perhaps you are indeed right. Every behavior which would "force" you to start to think could be "bad" for you because "to think" needs energy. The own energy. That's by the way a common element with all anti-Catholics. Many of them seem to have the feeling to be "anti" makes them right.

You seem to have no problem with Hobelim attacking your faith. I don't trust you.

Your "logic" is indeed fascinating, isn't it? I have no problem with someone who attacks my faith because no one is able to attack my faith, ... hopefully.

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So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
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[ding]

Sure you don't respect me. I'm a blond eyed, blue haired German Catholic with Jewish ancestors who is remarried with a Martin Luther. Who should respect me? ... Oh ... Sorry. Sure you respect me, god. But you are a little blinded from your own love into your own creation in this case, aren't you? Once said "it is good" made it always to be good? Are you sure? For us many things do not look well. Why?



That's not my impression .... but perhaps you are indeed right. Every behavior which would "force" you to start to think could be "bad" for you because "to think" needs energy. The own energy. That's by the way a common element with all anti-Catholics. Many of them seem to have the feeling to be "anti" makes them right.



Your "logic" is indeed fascinating, isn't it? I have no problem with someone who attacks my faith because no one is able to attack my faith, ... hopefully.

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So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
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You are no Catholic to me.

 

[zaangalewa]

You are no Catholic to me.

Sure, chameleon. But when you take a look at your skin then you should perhaps ask yourselve what the empty phrases on your skin really show.

 

[ding]

Sure, chameleon. But when you take a look at your skin then you should perhaps ask yourselve what the empty phrases on your skin really show.

You are a fake Catholic to me.

 

[zaangalewa]

You are a fake Catholic to me.

What comes now, Trump-weirdo? An analogy to the destruction of the real hero Senator John McCain by a coward like Donald Trump? Words mean nothing to you. They are only weapons. But if you should be an AI then your program is much more better than I ever thought this is possible. But are you really as stupid as you play to be?

 

[ding]

What comes now, Trump-weirdo? An analogy to the destruction of the real hero Senator John McCain by a coward like Donald Trump? Words mean nothing to you. They are only weapons. But if you should be an AI then your program is much more better than I ever thought this is possible. But are you really as stupid as you play to be?

Americans don't care what Germans think, especially fake Catholic ones.

 

[zaangalewa]

Americans don't care what Germans think, especially fake Catholic ones.

Sure. As far as I heard J.D. Vance said all crimes came from Germany to the USA. Because of the flood of migrants who come from Germany to the USA every year, I guess, although Switzerland (0.4% of the size of the USA) is the favorite nation for German migrants.

 

[ding]

Sure. As far as I heard J.D. Vance said all crimes came from Germany to the USA. Because of the flood of migrants who come from Germany to the USA every year, I guess, although Switzerland (0.4% of the size of the USA) is the favorite nation for German migrants.

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The enemy artillery was so intense that communications were generally out. The men carried out missions without orders when their positions were penetrated or infiltrated. They killed Germans coming at them from the front, flanks and rear. Outnumbered five to one, they inflicted casualties in the ratio of 18 to one. With ammunition supplies dwindling rapidly, the men obtained German weapons and utilized ammunition obtained from casualties to drive off the persistent foe. Despite fatigue, constant enemy shelling, and ever-increasing enemy pressure, the Third Battalion guarded a 6,000 yards (5,500 m)-long front and destroyed 75 percent of three German infantry regiments.[3]

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[Donald H]

You have no problem with me.



You ask a grandson of king David - and a last Mohican - not to be [a fan of] music in all colors and forms? After an attack of terrorists in Israel onto a music festival where people communicated with each other via music and had been stopped to do so by weapons and cruelest violence? After "the Swifties" had not been able in Austria - the land full of music - to celebrate together with her their ways of lifes because otherwise one or more Solingens had happened in Vienna? After the Taliban made laws which ban every influence and joy out of public life for women? ... You have indeed a problem. A very serios problem. And this problem is not me and your absurde idea to like to communicate with a rectangle full of light with some scribbles on it- and think the same time this something should be like you because it likes to speak with you. Do I like to speak with you? Why should I? ... By the way: Are you married? How can your wife put up with you at all with such dirigisme?

You're sounding too much like a genocidal Zionist with whom I wouldn't want to share music, Davidson.

 

[zaangalewa]

During the German offensive in the Ardennes, the Third Battalion, 395th Infantry, was assigned the mission of holding the Monschau-Eupen-Liege Road. For four successive days the battalion held this sector against combined German tank and infantry attacks, launched with fanatical determination and supported by heavy artillery. No reserves were available . . . and the situation was desperate. On at least six different occasions the battalion was forced to place artillery concentrations dangerously close to its own positions in order to repulse penetrations and restore its lines . . .

The enemy artillery was so intense that communications were generally out. The men carried out missions without orders when their positions were penetrated or infiltrated. They killed Germans coming at them from the front, flanks and rear. Outnumbered five to one, they inflicted casualties in the ratio of 18 to one. With ammunition supplies dwindling rapidly, the men obtained German weapons and utilized ammunition obtained from casualties to drive off the persistent foe. Despite fatigue, constant enemy shelling, and ever-increasing enemy pressure, the Third Battalion guarded a 6,000 yards (5,500 m)-long front and destroyed 75 percent of three German infantry regiments.

Aha. Right or wrong - what has this to do with what? But let it be to give me this answer. You are on my ignore list.

 

[ding]

Aha. Right or wrong. And what has this to do with what?

About as much as you bringing up JD Vance.

 

[zaangalewa]

You're sounding too much like a genocidal Zionist with whom I wouldn't want to share music, Davidson.

Aha, an anti-Semite and proud atheist. But if I ever will need a new name then Davidson would not be a bad name. Is Harley a prename in the USA?

 

[Billo_Really]

MSN

Based on the Pontiff cult of personality that defies scripture.

The Pope preaches the gospel of Climate change now.

First he calls climate deniers "stupid". Ever hear Jesus call someone stupid? No? Neither have I. Then he shifts gears and go after scientists who challenge the Climate cult teachings as being perverse, unlike gay marriage. Then he calls the lot of them fools.

Trouble with calling someone a fool is, the Bible warns us on using the word as it only uses the term for those who deny God's existence.

Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

The Pontiff is the Jim Jones of Catholicism. He wants us all to drink the cool air of Climate change and starve to death as farmers around the world are told not to grow as much food in order to reduce carbon emissions due to fertilizers, as the world starves and deals with higher inflation due to food shortages..

Well then it is the best cult in earth history!

 

[ding]

You are on my ignore list.

Who said there's no God.

 

[hobelim]

No one dies during a mass - and if someone has an heart attack - or another serios health problem - during a mass then we will call an ambulance. But this has never happened anywhere near me.

The choice given between a blessing and a curse, life and death, is not only if but how one interprets and complies with the figurative words and hidden subjects of the written Law.

What you don't realize is that "the death" one experiences consequent to defying the Law of God at mass, to not worship anything made by human hands, is not physical death in nature and the fact that you are unaware of this absolute truth is evidence that you have your reward already.

Seriously, the church even teaches that to defy the first command is a mortal sin which results in death, hell, and destruction, in that order. I do know that Jesus said that Satan has been given leave to sift you all like wheat and so everyone who willingly and knowingly participates in the idolatry upon which the church is built has failed this simple test of faith and are under a curse.

I could "see" that the Church was peddling specious lies with no shade on their shit when I was 8.

Whats your excuse for still professing to believe in such nonsense however old you are now?

Fear? Conformity? Cowardice? Am I really telling you something you don't already know? Strunz.

If you ever hope to rise to life before you die a physical death just don't do it. How hard is that?

 

[hobelim]

But as an atheist I have to say that the Catholic church has only done what has become necessary for trying to stay in step with science.

For as long as the church teaches that spiritual life can be handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food the church will remain out of step with morals, ethics, not to mention actual reality.

That degrading practice is a brazen demonstration of contempt for the Hebrew God and an open desecration of the teaching of Jesus. They are either stupid or have made evil a deliberate choice

They are trying to stay in step with science? Seriously?

They might as well be handing out mental illness on Sunday and calling it a religious experience

Maybe they should put that under a microscope to discover whether they are full of shit or not.

 

[hobelim]

But thanks for admitting it's not YOUR holy book.

Thats right. Its a book teaching lessons written by men about as holy as the story of Pinocchio.

The name of your holy book in Hebrew means "instruction" and thats how I approach it.

I do know that the instruction in the Bible, written by men, was inspired by superior intelligences from another sphere of intelligent life and so I have risen to their level to in order to understand.

"For as the heavens are higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways, my thoughts higher than your thoughts."

You should try to get your head out of your ass obsessions, salacious imaginings, and irrational carnal interpretations about the words and subjects subjects of the Law which expose you as a

Pervert.

 

[Donald H]

For as long as the church teaches that spiritual life can be handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food the church will remain out of step with morals, ethics, not to mention actual reality.

That degrading practice is a brazen demonstration of contempt for the Hebrew God and an open desecration of the teaching of Jesus. They are either stupid or have made evil a deliberate choice

They are trying to stay in step with science? Seriously?

They might as well be handing out mental illness on Sunday and calling it a religious experience

Maybe they should put that under a microscope to discover whether they are full of shit or not.

Yes, they are trying to stay in step with science, and reality too.
Seriously, they are 'trying'.

Stories such as Jonah and the big fish story can only be believed by mentally ill people. The Catholic church has concocted a more believable interpretation of that sort of goofy nonsense.

So no doubt that the faithful literal believers will see their methods as an open desecration!

I wouldnt be surprised if those who run the Vatican, get together after dinner for a few beers and a good laugh while counting their money.

 

[ding]

Thats right. Its a book teaching lessons written by men about as holy as the story of Pinocchio.

The name of your holy book in Hebrew means "instruction" and thats how I approach it.

I do know that the instruction in the Bible, written by men, was inspired by superior intelligences from another sphere of intelligent life and so I have risen to their level to in order to understand.

"For as the heavens are higher than the earth so are my ways higher than your ways, my thoughts higher than your thoughts."

You should try to get your head out of your ass obsessions, salacious imaginings, and irrational carnal interpretations about the words and subjects subjects of the Law which expose you as a

Pervert.

Says the guy who says his God condones buggery.