Zone1 I am prepared to call Catholicism a cult

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Donald trying to be relevant is like Putin trying to be relevant.

 

[hobelim]

Stories such as Jonah and the big fish story can only be believed by mentally ill people.

Being in the belly of the beast is just a metaphor. Mentally healthy people should know that.

 

[Donald H]

Being in the belly of the beast is just a metaphor. Mentally healthy people should know that.

I just think that the Catholics should be honest about it and admit that all of those impossible bible stories could have been accepted and 'were' accepted as the literal truth, before Darwin.

Many Christians still do but aren't honest enough to themselves to claim they're still true.

And then there are some honest exceptions that still believe they are true. They have to believe that their bibles are the literal true word of the god. We have some of those on this forum!

Poll some southern American Baptists who think Darwin got it all wrong.
That kind of thinking goes arm in arm with literal interpretation of the bibles.

 

[zaangalewa]

The choice given between a blessing and a curse, life and death, is not only if but how one interprets and complies with the figurative words and hidden subjects of the written Law.

Eh? Which curses? What for heavens sake is going on in you?

What you don't realize

Tststs. I will never understand why some people think they know everything about a stranger.

is that "the death" one experiences consequent to defying the Law of God at mass, to not worship anything made by human hands, is not physical death in nature and the fact that you are unaware of this absolute truth is evidence that you have your reward already.

Seldom I heard such a "spiritual" bullshit. Do you really expect from me I should think about such an absurde theme? Aesthetics is also always an indicator for truth - independent from any way how aesthetic structures are created. For example: A beautiful mathematical expression often explains more in a better way than a not so nice structure.

Seriously, the church even teaches that to defy the first command is a mortal sin which results in death, hell, and destruction, in that order. I do know that Jesus said that Satan has been given leave to sift you all like wheat and so everyone who willingly and knowingly participates in the idolatry upon which the church is built has failed this simple test of faith and are under a curse.

I could "see" that the Church was peddling specious lies with no shade on their shit when I was 8.

Whats your excuse for still professing to believe in such nonsense however old you are now?

Fear? Conformity? Cowardice? Am I really telling you something you don't already know? Strunz.

If you ever hope to rise to life before you die a physical death just don't do it. How hard is that?

What for heavens sake do you try to speak about? Who accepts the first commandement says "God is my master (Lord) - and no one else". If someone says "Putin is my master" for example then this means a hell in death and destruction. To the rest here I say nothing because I see only a summary of wrong prejudices in this words.

 

[hobelim]

What for heavens sake do you try to speak about? Who accepts the first commandement says "God is my master (Lord) - and no one else".

Exactly.

There is only one living God (not three) who is incorporeal with no visible shape or material form.

So, then, how do you explain "believing" in a trinity that diddled a virgin to become a Jewish man only to say things no one understood, abolish Divine law, perform supernatural demonstrations of divine power over reality, and offer himself as a "perfect human sacrifice" to himself, derp, so that believers who celebrate his crucifixion and eat him in the form of a lifeless matzo made by human hands for spiritual life can sin with impunity for life because he loved the Roman world so much?

Do you think there are no consequences for filling your head with such silly maudlin bullshit?

Don't you have an inkling how deleterious perpetuating such a belief is? No? There's your proof!

You have your reward already!

"The wild beast of the field" must start drooling when they see you coming from a mile away.

If someone says "Putin is my master" for example then this means a hell in death and destruction.

Yes. Look what it did to trump.

Look what its done to trumpers

You profess to believe in the absurd but you don't believe what can be seen with your own eyes?

 

[hobelim]

Eh? Which curses?

Let me dumb it down for you. If sanity is a blessing, life, insanity is a curse, death. Now you know.

This death, a curse, is an artificially induced state of mind that resembles sleep. Thats why Jesus said "Satan was a murderer from the beginning." for "beguiling" Adam and Eve into defying the command of God to not swallow bullshit, what they already knew was a lie, the forbidden fruit.

The temptation was they would not die but will become like God, Lord of their own fantasy world, which isn't living life at all. It is an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep.

 

[ding]

Let me dumb it down for you. If sanity is a blessing, life, insanity is a curse, death. Now you know.

This death, a curse, is an artificially induced state of mind that resembles sleep. Thats why Jesus said "Satan was a murderer from the beginning." for "beguiling" Adam and Eve into defying the command of God to not swallow bullshit, what they already knew was a lie, the forbidden fruit.

The temptation was they would not die but will become like God, Lord of their own fantasy world, which isn't living life at all. It is an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep.

It's funny... every interpretation you make has six degrees of separation to transubstantiation.

Brown dirt cowboy.

 

[hobelim]

It's funny... every interpretation you make has six degrees of separation to transubstantiation.

There is no such thing as transubstantiation. Its about as real and effective as saying presto mundo, hocus pocus, alakazam! To turn the words in the bible into a cake to eat for spiritual life.

Teaching from God, the Word of God, bread from heaven that became the flesh of Jesus, words that are both Spirit and life, cannot be turned into a matzo made by human hands and eaten. derp

Its just flat out stupid and astonishing that anyone with a brain would fall for that nonsense. Rube.

If you don't believe me write these words on a piece of paper and eat it and see if you get a clue.

 

[ding]

There is no such thing as transubstantiation. Its about as real and effective as saying presto mundo, hocus pocus, alakazam! To turn the words in the bible into a cake to eat for spiritual life.

Teaching from God, the Word of God, bread from heaven that became the flesh of Jesus, words that are both spirit and life, cannot be turned into a matzo made by human hands and eaten.

Its just flat out stupid and astonishing that anyone with a brain would fall for that nonsense. Rube.

If you don't believe me write these words on a piece of paper and eat it and see if you get a clue.

And yet it is pretty much the central theme of almost every post you make. OCD much, BDC?

 

[hobelim]

And yet it is pretty much the central theme of almost every post you make.

You don't seem to get it. Go figure!

The more obstinate you become the more people will see IRL the terrifying and deeply disturbing consequences for defying the Law of God to not worship anything made by human hands.

 

[ding]

You don't seem to get it. Go figure!

The more obstinate you become the more people will see IRL the terrifying and deeply disturbing consequences for defying the Law of God to not worship anything made by human hands.

Oh, I get it alright. You're obsessed.

 

[zaangalewa]

Exactly.

There is only one living God (not three) who is incorporeal with no visible shape or material form.

Before I will try to answer you I have to know first whether you are a Muslism so I have to explain you first on what reason we call the one "living" god triune. I did set "living" in quotation marks because god is the creator of all existing things including life. We do not know wether god existed or not existed or "lived" in any other way when he created existence. We think so because otherwise we are not able to think about. In a similar way you have to think about the word "triune". We speak in such contextes about revelations.

 

[zaangalewa]

Let me dumb it down for you. If sanity is a blessing, life, insanity is a curse, death. Now you know. ...

If you are a Christian then curses are more or less irrelevant.

 

[zaangalewa]

There is no such thing as transubstantiation. ...

You have perhaps a wrong imagination of "transubstantiation". Congrats by the way. Most people do not know how to write this word nor how to speak it out. Fortunatelly some of my family members are yodelers with a yodel diploma so I do not have this problem too. You should perhaps know that "blood" for example often means "spirit" when you read very old textes. And "substantial" means often "essential". So you can see in the expression "trans-substance-iation" a kind of blessing or wonder in which a piece of bread overtakes the essential spirit of god and thus becomes not only food for the body but also spiritual food for the mind. It strengthens Catholics to stay in the spirit of god.

 

[zaangalewa]

... If you don't believe me write these words on a piece of paper and eat it and see if you get a clue.

Do you have a piece of eating paper and a choclate pencil?

Herzensangelegenheiten = Matters of the heart



Damit sie sich um das kümmern können, worauf es im Leben wirklich ankommt.
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So that you can take care of what really matters in life.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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[hobelim]

Before I will try to answer you I have to know first whether you are a Muslism so I have to explain you first on what reason we call the one "living" god triune.

Please spare me the triune apologetics. I have heard it all before. It just boils down to bullshit.

I am not muslim. I was raised Catholic and studied for a decade with a Jesuit Priest who thought that I had the right stuff but found out later in life that I come from a long line of crypto Jews from Spain and Puerto Rico. Then I studied Judaism while living among the ultra orthodox in Brooklyn.

Thats where I had my eureka moment and finally understood the nutty things that Jesus said.

Now I do not practice any religion and worship an unknown God. The truth has set me free.

 

[hobelim]

If you are a Christian then curses are more or less irrelevant.

Thats where you are wrong. No one can escape the hand of God in this or the next life. If you defy the first command you are guilty of a mortal sin and die, descend into hell, and are accursed.

Even your own Church teaches that. Didn't you pay attention in catechism?

Celebrating the death of Jesus eating a matzo doesn't grant you immunity. It only makes it worse.

Its not a deep mystery too difficult for the human mind to comprehend. Its just flat out bullshit.

 

[hobelim]

So you can see in the expression "trans-substance-iation" a kind of blessing or wonder in which a piece of bread overtakes the essential spirit of god

Seriously? Do you not see something inherently evil in perpetuating such a ridiculous belief?

Its not a deep mystery too difficult for the human mind to comprehend. Its just flat out bullshit.

and thus becomes not only food for the body but also spiritual food for the mind.

The only real spiritual food for the mind that is anything like bread and wine is knowledge and understanding, words, which cannot be handed out and eaten and then crapped down the toilet.

You have been deceived. How long have you been on earth? Is that too hard for you to believe?

 

[hobelim]

It strengthens Catholics to stay in the spirit of god.

No.

It is a memorial bondage to sin which kills the mind. The good news, you don't have to stay dead.