Zone1 I am late

[late]

So why does a 74 year old cancer survivor spend his last years alienating people? Wouldn't it be more interesting to engage?

What an odd thing to say.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

There are several ways in which I am late, I don't share them all.

But I am 74, I live just outside Portland, Maine. I am an intellectual, and Progressive.

I used to be a hiker and backpacker, and miss that like crazy.

After the cancer, I wasn't in a good place, so I got an ebike. I had lots of bikes before that, I've ridden my bike across Italy, from the Adriatic to the Med; Italy was great.

I am really into history, and that lead me to people that used economics to understand history better. Starting in the 1970s, stuffy old history came to life when nearly every discipline was brought to bear on history, from accounting to zoology.

I get kicked out of most forums because I do not suffer fools. Don't worry, Mods, I've been kicked out of better, and I don't take it personally.

I will talk about books, a fave is What Hath God Wrought, a pulitzer winning history of the era between the War of 1812 and the Civil War. I had written that era off as uninteresting, man was I ever wrong. It's terrific, and the best writing I have ever seen in a work of history.

I like reading economic history, especially about the early oil industry, and railroads. It helps to understand a lot of later history as well.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Good to have another progressive on here. Not many of us. We are outnumbered.

BTW, there is no better forum than USMB.

Teddy Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover were Progressives. Maybe you don't really understand the term as well as you think you do. Commies have co-opted it and abuse the term, like when they idolize commies like Harry Hay and his NAMBLA advocacy.

Meet Pioneer of Gay Rights, Harry Hay

His should be a household name.

progressive.org

Of course the article deliberately leaves out one of his most famous photos.

Harry Hay: Pride and Pedophillia

The Original Sin of the Gay Rights Movement

antipolitics.substack.com

... just a small oversight, eh?

 

[late]

I like reading economic history, especially about the early oil industry, and railroads. It helps to understand a lot of later history as well.

Yes!!!

See if your library can get you What Hath God Wrought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/019539243...id=UGF628XU1TK3&sprefix=what hath&tag=usmb-20

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Yes!!!

See if your library can get you What Hath God Wrought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0195392434/?bestFormat=true&k=what hath god wrought&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-v2_k0_1_9_de&crid=UGF628XU1TK3&sprefix=what hath&tag=usmb-20

Looks interesting. I usually scour archive.org looking for new scans a lot, especially for books that include costs and production numbers.

 

[late]

Looks interesting. I usually scour archive.org looking for new scans a lot, especially for books that include costs and production numbers.

Have I got a book for you:

The Rise and Fall of American Growth, by Gordon.

I should preface this by saying he was wrong. Despite that, it's one of my favorite books.

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-American-Growth-Princeton/dp/0691175802/?tag=usmb-20

 

[westwall]

They were actual a century ago, language changes over time.

In any case, does it matter?

Course not, if cheap points are all ya got...

Of course it matters. As a supposed "intellectual" you should know that.

 

[westwall]

I love it how modern day Notsees (you) don't realize that you are just like the 1940 Nazi's. Just like them. But dumb asses like you will say "Hitler was a Socialist"

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Socialists, communists, trade unionists....all the same, sport.

 

[westwall]

Have I got a book for you:

The Rise and Fall of American Growth, by Gordon.

I should preface this by saying he was wrong. Despite that, it's one of my favorite books.

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-American-Growth-Princeton/dp/0691175802/?tag=usmb-20

I have a better one "A Theory of Justice" by Rawls.

 

[late]

Of course it matters. As a supposed "intellectual" you should know that.

Nope, you can use it either way if your intent is on the up and up.

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.

 

[Hafar1014]

Have I got a book for you:

The Rise and Fall of American Growth, by Gordon.

I should preface this by saying he was wrong. Despite that, it's one of my favorite books.

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-American-Growth-Princeton/dp/0691175802/?tag=usmb-20

Economic growth is in direct proportion to government growth. The or ethe government grows the less the economy grows. Gordon was just another left wing thinker blaming inequality which is normal in a free society. Its economic mobility that matters the ability and freedom to increase personal wealth. The enemy of that is government. No better example was the Biden economic disaster. Massive debt based expansion of government, 1000s of regulations, destructive and manipulate energy policies and an open border. All with one goal expand government power. What we got was massive inflation and a reduction in private wealth crushing the middle class.

 

[westwall]

Nope, you can use it either way if your intent is on the up and up.

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.

Incorrect. Language has been developed over centuries. Words, and their EXACT meaning matter.

Leftists corrupt language so that they can ascribe whatever meaning is expedient for their particular goal at any particular time.

 

[late]

Incorrect. Language has been developed over centuries. Words, and their EXACT meaning matter.

Leftists corrupt language so that they can ascribe whatever meaning is expedient for their particular goal at any particular time.

Sorry, kiddo, not how it works.

The first modern dictionary was the Oxford, in the 1800s, they realised they couldn't control language, and that it would change.

This isn't political.

 

[late]

Economic growth is in direct proportion to government growth. The or ethe government grows the less the economy grows. Gordon was just another left wing thinker blaming inequality which is normal in a free society. Its economic mobility that matters the ability and freedom to increase personal wealth. The enemy of that is government. No better example was the Biden economic disaster. Massive debt based expansion of government, 1000s of regulations, destructive and manipulate energy policies and an open border. All with one goal expand government power. What we got was massive inflation and a reduction in private wealth crushing the middle class.

I had no idea you were psychic.

Or that you knew nothing about economics.

 

[Hafar1014]

Sorry, kiddo, not how it works.

The first modern dictionary was the Oxford, in the 1800s, they realised they couldn't control language, and that it would change.

This isn't political.

The left tries to control language all the time trans gender doesnt exist non binary doesnt exist. Global Warming never happened so it became climet change

 

[late]

The left tries to control language all the time trans gender doesnt exist non binary doesnt exist. Global Warming never happened so it became climet change

Little one, both sides try to control language, the topic is really about the nature of language.

Like I said, this part was settled in the 1800s.

It gets worse, but that is so far over your head...

 

[Hafar1014]

Little one, both sides try to control language, the topic is really about the nature of language.

Like I said, this part was settled in the 1800s.

It gets worse, but that is so far over your head...

The left lies thats who they no better exam[le is you

 

[westwall]

Sorry, kiddo, not how it works.

The first modern dictionary was the Oxford, in the 1800s, they realised they couldn't control language, and that it would change.

This isn't political.

I hate to break it to ya, but yeah.

That's exactly how it works.

You leftoids require outrage to do your dirty work. This language must be corrupted so that you may claim outrage for ANYTHING that suits you.

And yeah...it's completely political.

 

[westwall]

Sorry, kiddo, not how it works.

The first modern dictionary was the Oxford, in the 1800s, they realised they couldn't control language, and that it would change.

This isn't political.

Samuel Johnsons "A Dictionary of the English Language" 1755, is considered the first modern dictionary, skippy.

For an "intellectual" you sure don't know very much.

 

[late]

Samuel Johnsons "A Dictionary of the English Language" 1755, is considered the first modern dictionary, skippy.

For an "intellectual" you sure don't know very much.

Whaddya know, somebody has heard of Wikipedia.

You get a brownie point.

What I said stands.

The Oxford was the first modern dictionary. It dealt with a wide variety of issues, like change, that made it groundbreaking.

It also makes it relevant to the discussion. The Oxford tracked the history of words. It was a massive undertaking, I usually say it was the wikipedia of it's time.

If you want to discuss what modern is, we can do that.