Zone1 I am late

[Concerned American]

They were actual a century ago, language changes over time.

In any case, does it matter?

Course not, if cheap points are all ya got...

Sounds like Orwell's doublespeak to me.

Doublespeak in George Orwell's "1984" refers to language that deliberately obscures or distorts meaning, often used by the government to manipulate truth and control thought. It is closely related to the concept of doublethink, where individuals accept contradictory beliefs simultaneously, allowing the ruling Party to maintain power.
Wikipedia peramuseum.org

 

[late]

Sounds like Orwell's doublespeak to me.

Doublespeak in George Orwell's "1984" refers to language that deliberately obscures or distorts meaning, often used by the government to manipulate truth and control thought. It is closely related to the concept of doublethink, where individuals accept contradictory beliefs simultaneously, allowing the ruling Party to maintain power.
Wikipedia peramuseum.org

It's not every day I see irony on steroids.

"The first
Oxford English Dictionary (originally A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles) was revolutionary because it was a historical dictionary, tracking the evolution of words from their earliest known appearance to their current usage, rather than just listing contemporary meanings. It differed by including all known vocabulary (including obsolete words) and using millions of reader-submitted citations to document usage, taking 70 years to complete (1857–1928). "
Google AI

It's pretty much the opposite of Orwellian, it painstaking recorded a word, revealing it's history, changes to it's meaning and spelling. It's a love letter to the English language.

 

[Concerned American]

It's not every day I see irony on steroids.

"The first
Oxford English Dictionary (originally A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles) was revolutionary because it was a historical dictionary, tracking the evolution of words from their earliest known appearance to their current usage, rather than just listing contemporary meanings. It differed by including all known vocabulary (including obsolete words) and using millions of reader-submitted citations to document usage, taking 70 years to complete (1857–1928). "
Google AI

It's pretty much the opposite of Orwellian, it painstaking recorded a word, revealing it's history, changes to it's meaning and spelling. It's a love letter to the English language.

Riiiiight. SMH, What is bad is now good and what is good is now bad. LOL

 

[westwall]

Whaddya know, somebody has heard of Wikipedia.

You get a brownie point.

What I said stands.

The Oxford was the first modern dictionary. It dealt with a wide variety of issues, like change, that made it groundbreaking.

It also makes it relevant to the discussion. The Oxford tracked the history of words. It was a massive undertaking, I usually say it was the wikipedia of it's time.

If you want to discuss what modern is, we can do that.

No, I have a copy of the original. You know, you're probably considered pretty smart amongst your 12 year old reddit group, but you're dealing with adults now, sport.

So you better catch up.

 

[late]

Riiiiight. SMH, What is bad is now good and what is good is now bad. LOL

Not what I said, but exactly nobody that has ever learned how to do history thinks it's easy.

 

[Concerned American]

Not what I said, but exactly nobody that has ever learned how to do history thinks it's easy.

It is exactly what you said. You've been talking to grade schoolers too long--or maybe your senility is rising.

 

[westwall]

Not what I said, but exactly nobody that has ever learned how to do history thinks it's easy.

One does not "do" history.

One studies it.

 

[Concerned American]

One does not "do" history.

One studies it.

LOL, this guy is a self-proclaimed 'intellectual'.

 

[westwall]

LOL, this guy is a self-proclaimed 'intellectual'.

It's a sock. The question is who's.

 

[late]

One does not "do" history.

One studies it.

Historiography is part of every sophomore history majors education.

 

[playtime]

so glad you found our little corner of the interwebs... if you haven't stopped by our reception desk to pick up yer complimentary hazmat suit, i highly recommend you do so! see you on the forums!

 

[westwall]

Historiography is part of every sophomore history majors education.

Yes, the STUDY of how histories are written, etc.

Once again, for the pseudo intellectual, you're dealing with adults here, kid.

Best try and catchup.

 

[Chuz Life]

If I had time, I would create a lengthy questionnaire like the ones used to plot a person's political position on a graph, but based more on my readings here on USMB.

Really, it would be cool to have such a thing attached to each user's profile.

Make the answers updateable for anyone who changes a view.

Strength meter to show how strong or weak a view is, etc.

It might cut down on some of these intro threads.

 

[Chuz Life]

It's a sock. The question is who's.

My first thought, exactly.

 

[Delldude]

LOL, this guy is a self-proclaimed 'intellectual'.

IKE?

 

[buckeye]

This isn't political.

It sure was when the left changed the meaning of "vaccine".

 

[late]

It sure was when the left changed the meaning of "vaccine".

As it stands, that is meaningless.

 

[westwall]

As it stands, that is meaningless.

As are your positions, apparently.

 

[late]

Yes, the STUDY of how histories are written, etc.

Once again, for the pseudo intellectual, you're dealing with adults here, kid.

Best try and catchup.

Sorry, you're incompetent.

You don't know what history is, walk into a university library, find the history section, grab a journal, which doesn't matter, try and read it.

 

[yidnar]

There are several ways in which I am late, I don't share them all.

But I am 74, I live just outside Portland, Maine. I am an intellectual, and Progressive.

I used to be a hiker and backpacker, and miss that like crazy.

After the cancer, I wasn't in a good place, so I got an ebike. I had lots of bikes before that, I've ridden my bike across Italy, from the Adriatic to the Med; Italy was great.

I am really into history, and that lead me to people that used economics to understand history better. Starting in the 1970s, stuffy old history came to life when nearly every discipline was brought to bear on history, from accounting to zoology.

I get kicked out of most forums because I do not suffer fools. Don't worry, Mods, I've been kicked out of better, and I don't take it personally.

I will talk about books, a fave is What Hath God Wrought, a pulitzer winning history of the era between the War of 1812 and the Civil War. I had written that era off as uninteresting, man was I ever wrong. It's terrific, and the best writing I have ever seen in a work of history.