I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

Abertay student Lisa Keogh talks to spiked about her absurd run-in with the campus censors.

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18th May 2021


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In a crowded field, the ‘women have vaginas’ scandal at Abertay University might just be the most insane campus-censorship story yet. Lisa Keogh, a law student at Abertay, is currently being investigated by the university authorities for comments she made in seminars. She says her fellow students complained after she said that women are born with female genitalia, and that trans women should not compete in women’s mixed martial arts. For uttering such heresies she could even face expulsion — the university is reportedly deciding her fate later today. We spoke to Lisa ahead of the ruling to find out more.

spiked: What did you say that got you into trouble?

Lisa Keogh: I was in an online class about gender and feminism in the law. We were discussing equal rights for men and women. I said that I agree with equal rights, but that you can’t expect an equal outcome. For example, I can’t lift things as heavy as a man can. When I worked in a garage, men would help me because I wasn’t physically as able as them. I was a small female and they were burly mechanics. I have equal rights to them and to men in general, but I cannot be a man, so to speak.

After I said that, somebody else in the class said it was misogynistic. I said it wasn’t, and they brought up the issue of trans. I said that a trans woman would be stronger than me, because I’m a biological woman. So they asked how I would define a woman, and I said that my classification of a woman is somebody who is born with a vagina and the ability to menstruate.

There was uproar. It was like putting a target on my back. I had branded myself as a non-member of the echo chamber. I could have said the sky was blue and they would have attacked me. As I understand it, more than one person from the class reported me to the university.

fine for my fellow students to have an opinion and to push for their rights. But you have to be able to challenge people. But when you challenge these people, they say they have been attacked. What’s the point of having a law class if you aren’t challenging people?
spiked: How did the university respond?

Keogh: I got an email saying that I’d been accused of offending and discriminating against somebody. The email was very vague – it didn’t say what I had actually done. I went to the interview and the interviewer asked if I accepted the allegations. I said I couldn’t really accept them unless they told me what I had done. The interviewer said that would be teased out throughout the interview.

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That's all it takes ..... one person to claim "I'm offended and I don't feel safe "

It's a joke
I prefer the word Pussy myself
 
She says her fellow students complained after she said that women are born with female genitalia, and that trans women should not compete in women’s mixed martial arts.
Women trained in "Mixed Martial Arts" are trained to fight men. Why is it not a mixed group? Some weapons are involved. This isn't a high contact sport like wrestling. It's an all-out street brawl situation.

Are they twisting the guy's nuts off for self defense or having promiscuous sexual relations, or is it something even more deplorable?
 
I don’t know how well this will work in practice, but a very strong argument against feminism is the history of matriarchy. The power of women in culture is absolutely clearly connected with chthonism, with all its unsightly attributes of sexual promiscuity, madness, bloody orgies, cannibalism, worship of reptiles and unclean creatures.

Why should we risk stepping on the same rake?
 
Her real problem is that she mentioned trans women\people(?), but she failed to mention all the pros who are kneeling during our National Anthem every week on TV.

These questions are going to get more complicated with the passage of time. Lol....
 
I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

Abertay student Lisa Keogh talks to spiked about her absurd run-in with the campus censors.

SPIKED

18th May 2021


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TopicsFEMINISMFREE SPEECHPOLITICSUK

In a crowded field, the ‘women have vaginas’ scandal at Abertay University might just be the most insane campus-censorship story yet. Lisa Keogh, a law student at Abertay, is currently being investigated by the university authorities for comments she made in seminars. She says her fellow students complained after she said that women are born with female genitalia, and that trans women should not compete in women’s mixed martial arts. For uttering such heresies she could even face expulsion — the university is reportedly deciding her fate later today. We spoke to Lisa ahead of the ruling to find out more.

spiked: What did you say that got you into trouble?

Lisa Keogh: I was in an online class about gender and feminism in the law. We were discussing equal rights for men and women. I said that I agree with equal rights, but that you can’t expect an equal outcome. For example, I can’t lift things as heavy as a man can. When I worked in a garage, men would help me because I wasn’t physically as able as them. I was a small female and they were burly mechanics. I have equal rights to them and to men in general, but I cannot be a man, so to speak.

After I said that, somebody else in the class said it was misogynistic. I said it wasn’t, and they brought up the issue of trans. I said that a trans woman would be stronger than me, because I’m a biological woman. So they asked how I would define a woman, and I said that my classification of a woman is somebody who is born with a vagina and the ability to menstruate.

There was uproar. It was like putting a target on my back. I had branded myself as a non-member of the echo chamber. I could have said the sky was blue and they would have attacked me. As I understand it, more than one person from the class reported me to the university.

fine for my fellow students to have an opinion and to push for their rights. But you have to be able to challenge people. But when you challenge these people, they say they have been attacked. What’s the point of having a law class if you aren’t challenging people?
spiked: How did the university respond?

Keogh: I got an email saying that I’d been accused of offending and discriminating against somebody. The email was very vague – it didn’t say what I had actually done. I went to the interview and the interviewer asked if I accepted the allegations. I said I couldn’t really accept them unless they told me what I had done. The interviewer said that would be teased out throughout the interview.

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That's all it takes ..... one person to claim "I'm offended and I don't feel safe "

It's a joke
The church brought this upon themselves, making nudity to be a terrible thing; making clothing to be a wonderful thing.
 
She should be picked on for being stupid if nothing else. If what she reported is verbatim she's an idiot. Even without seeing her I can pretty much guarantee there'll be a trans woman weaker than her. Too, she was dumb to go away from the category of biological women, she was on a lot safer ground there, though again I can pretty much guarantee there are women born with vaginas and without the ability to menstruate.


A fairly significant part of the female reproductive population does not menstruate for health or exercise reasons Various factors, such as a lot of exercise, very low body fat (e.g. due to anorexia nervosa), or Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, can result in a lack of menstruation in women and girls of reproductive age.

You identify as hermaphrodite, right?
 
I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

Abertay student Lisa Keogh talks to spiked about her absurd run-in with the campus censors.

SPIKED

18th May 2021


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TopicsFEMINISMFREE SPEECHPOLITICSUK

In a crowded field, the ‘women have vaginas’ scandal at Abertay University might just be the most insane campus-censorship story yet. Lisa Keogh, a law student at Abertay, is currently being investigated by the university authorities for comments she made in seminars. She says her fellow students complained after she said that women are born with female genitalia, and that trans women should not compete in women’s mixed martial arts. For uttering such heresies she could even face expulsion — the university is reportedly deciding her fate later today. We spoke to Lisa ahead of the ruling to find out more.

spiked: What did you say that got you into trouble?

Lisa Keogh: I was in an online class about gender and feminism in the law. We were discussing equal rights for men and women. I said that I agree with equal rights, but that you can’t expect an equal outcome. For example, I can’t lift things as heavy as a man can. When I worked in a garage, men would help me because I wasn’t physically as able as them. I was a small female and they were burly mechanics. I have equal rights to them and to men in general, but I cannot be a man, so to speak.

After I said that, somebody else in the class said it was misogynistic. I said it wasn’t, and they brought up the issue of trans. I said that a trans woman would be stronger than me, because I’m a biological woman. So they asked how I would define a woman, and I said that my classification of a woman is somebody who is born with a vagina and the ability to menstruate.

There was uproar. It was like putting a target on my back. I had branded myself as a non-member of the echo chamber. I could have said the sky was blue and they would have attacked me. As I understand it, more than one person from the class reported me to the university.

fine for my fellow students to have an opinion and to push for their rights. But you have to be able to challenge people. But when you challenge these people, they say they have been attacked. What’s the point of having a law class if you aren’t challenging people?
spiked: How did the university respond?

Keogh: I got an email saying that I’d been accused of offending and discriminating against somebody. The email was very vague – it didn’t say what I had actually done. I went to the interview and the interviewer asked if I accepted the allegations. I said I couldn’t really accept them unless they told me what I had done. The interviewer said that would be teased out throughout the interview.

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That's all it takes ..... one person to claim "I'm offended and I don't feel safe "

It's a joke
Remember when homosexual activists told us they just wanted to get married?
 
the next time a womens sports team rolls out men to compete with the opposition...let the opposition roll out men also...will end this shit quick
Why would I watch such teams play sports?

Why would anybody except trans women?
 
the next time a womens sports team rolls out men to compete with the opposition...let the opposition roll out men also...will end this shit quick
Wouldn't that end women's sports? Sorry for being 'Captain Obvious.'
 
Pretty soon you’ll have men’s sports.
Imagine a man in the process of becoming a female who hasn’t yet had surgery playing tennis in a short tennis skirt. It would be disgusting.
 
The OP is correct. Real women have vaginas. So even though LGBTQ folks have (or once had) a vagina they aren't real women (any more).
 
I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

Abertay student Lisa Keogh talks to spiked about her absurd run-in with the campus censors.

SPIKED

18th May 2021


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TopicsFEMINISMFREE SPEECHPOLITICSUK

In a crowded field, the ‘women have vaginas’ scandal at Abertay University might just be the most insane campus-censorship story yet. Lisa Keogh, a law student at Abertay, is currently being investigated by the university authorities for comments she made in seminars. She says her fellow students complained after she said that women are born with female genitalia, and that trans women should not compete in women’s mixed martial arts. For uttering such heresies she could even face expulsion — the university is reportedly deciding her fate later today. We spoke to Lisa ahead of the ruling to find out more.

spiked: What did you say that got you into trouble?

Lisa Keogh: I was in an online class about gender and feminism in the law. We were discussing equal rights for men and women. I said that I agree with equal rights, but that you can’t expect an equal outcome. For example, I can’t lift things as heavy as a man can. When I worked in a garage, men would help me because I wasn’t physically as able as them. I was a small female and they were burly mechanics. I have equal rights to them and to men in general, but I cannot be a man, so to speak.

After I said that, somebody else in the class said it was misogynistic. I said it wasn’t, and they brought up the issue of trans. I said that a trans woman would be stronger than me, because I’m a biological woman. So they asked how I would define a woman, and I said that my classification of a woman is somebody who is born with a vagina and the ability to menstruate.

There was uproar. It was like putting a target on my back. I had branded myself as a non-member of the echo chamber. I could have said the sky was blue and they would have attacked me. As I understand it, more than one person from the class reported me to the university.

fine for my fellow students to have an opinion and to push for their rights. But you have to be able to challenge people. But when you challenge these people, they say they have been attacked. What’s the point of having a law class if you aren’t challenging people?
spiked: How did the university respond?

Keogh: I got an email saying that I’d been accused of offending and discriminating against somebody. The email was very vague – it didn’t say what I had actually done. I went to the interview and the interviewer asked if I accepted the allegations. I said I couldn’t really accept them unless they told me what I had done. The interviewer said that would be teased out throughout the interview.

Read the rest


That's all it takes ..... one person to claim "I'm offended and I don't feel safe "

It's a joke

What is spiked on line?
 
Women trained in "Mixed Martial Arts" are trained to fight men. Why is it not a mixed group? Some weapons are involved. This isn't a high contact sport like wrestling. It's an all-out street brawl situation.

Are they twisting the guy's nuts off for self defense or having promiscuous sexual relations, or is it something even more deplorable?

"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face." -Mike Tyson
 
I am being investigated by my university for saying women have vaginas’

That's all it takes ..... one person to claim "I'm offended and I don't feel safe "

It's a joke
Not a very funny joke, right?

I remember a few years ago when the big shocker was a one-woman stage thingy titled "Vagina." Remember that title? I don't suppose anyone actually saw it, but the title got publicity. It was a feminism deal.

Now you can't say women have any parts different from men's. Oh, well, my solution is to just say what I think is true and they can grow into it.
 

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