Hydroxychloroquine

[Billiejeens]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia. Likely anyone on digoxin should probably not get it-----but I don't know

Yeah, that would be why The President included under Physician care in his talks.

 

[Billiejeens]

Researchers not involved with the study were critical. They noted that the Henry Ford team did not randomly treat patients but selected them for various treatments based on certain criteria.

"As the Henry Ford Health System became more experienced in treating patients with COVID-19, survival may have improved, regardless of the use of specific therapies," Dr. Todd Lee of the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal, Canada, and colleagues wrote in a commentary in the same journal.

"Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone." The steroid dexamethasone can reduce inflammation in seriously ill patients.

Rosenberg also pointed out that the Detroit paper excluded 267 patients -- nearly 10% of the study population -- who had not yet been discharged from the hospital. He said this might have skewed the results to make hydroxychloroquine look better than it really was. Those patients might have still been in the hospital because they were very sick, and if they died, excluding them from the study made hydroxychloroquine look like more of a lifesaver than it really was.

"There's a little bit of loosey-goosiness here in all this,"

Both the Detroit and New York studies were observational: they looked back at how patients did when doctors prescribed hydroxychloroquine.

While helpful, observational studies are not as valuable as controlled clinical trials. Considered the gold standard in medicine, patients in a clinical trial are randomly assigned to take either the drug or a placebo, which is a treatment that does nothing. Doctors then follow the patients to see how they fare.

Two clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19, one in the US and one in the UK, were stopped early because their data suggested hydroxychloroquine wasn't helpful.

I stopped at -
Researchers not involved with the study were critical.
Everyone should have.

 

[Polishprince]

Researchers not involved with the study were critical. They noted that the Henry Ford team did not randomly treat patients but selected them for various treatments based on certain criteria.

"As the Henry Ford Health System became more experienced in treating patients with COVID-19, survival may have improved, regardless of the use of specific therapies," Dr. Todd Lee of the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal, Canada, and colleagues wrote in a commentary in the same journal.

"Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone." The steroid dexamethasone can reduce inflammation in seriously ill patients.

Rosenberg also pointed out that the Detroit paper excluded 267 patients -- nearly 10% of the study population -- who had not yet been discharged from the hospital. He said this might have skewed the results to make hydroxychloroquine look better than it really was. Those patients might have still been in the hospital because they were very sick, and if they died, excluding them from the study made hydroxychloroquine look like more of a lifesaver than it really was.

"There's a little bit of loosey-goosiness here in all this,"

Both the Detroit and New York studies were observational: they looked back at how patients did when doctors prescribed hydroxychloroquine.

While helpful, observational studies are not as valuable as controlled clinical trials. Considered the gold standard in medicine, patients in a clinical trial are randomly assigned to take either the drug or a placebo, which is a treatment that does nothing. Doctors then follow the patients to see how they fare.

Two clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19, one in the US and one in the UK, were stopped early because their data suggested hydroxychloroquine wasn't helpful.

I stopped at -
Researchers not involved with the study were critical.
Everyone should have.

All I know is if I came down with a case of the coronas, I'd get my doctor on the phone and have him to call in a scrip for the Trump Treatment. It might not be a panacea, but its a low cost treatment that is responsible for saving the life of millions including that Democrat Senator from Michigan (Detroit?) who thanked Trump for saving her life.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia. Likely anyone on digoxin should probably not get it-----but I don't know

What????? The drug has been around for 60 yrs. I think we know the drug well.
A simple in office EKG is all that is needed for anyone.
If you have no heart rhythm issues known, the drug is totally safe.

 

[Muhammed]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia.

That's ridiculous. Hundreds of millions of people have taken HCQ with no ill effects. The drug is proven safe.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

So...President Trump said he was hopeful that Hydroxychloroquine would save lives, and the democrat party activists in the press tried to keep people from using the drug......now, a peer reviewed study shows that HCQ did, in fact, save lives....

The democrat party would rather let people die, than save them with a drug Trump was hoping would work...

They are F*****g insane.

The anti-malaria drug that President Trump touted as a possible treatment for coronavirus, hydroxychloroquine, successfully lowered the death rate among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in the most recent study of the drug.
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The large-scale analysis, conducted by Henry Ford Health System, was published Thursday in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Infectious Diseases.
The study examined 2,541 patients who had been hospitalized in six hospitals between March 10 and May 2, 2020.
More than twenty-six percent (26.4%) of patients who did not receive hydroxychloroquine died.
But among those who received hydroxychloroquine, fewer than half that number — 13% — died.
More than 90% of the patients received hydroxychloroquine within 48 hours of admission to the hospital. Scientists say giving the drug early during illness may be a key to success.
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The study’s authors also found one concern flagged in previous reports about hydroxychloroquine did not materialize: heart-related adverse events.
"The data here is clear that there was benefit to using [hydroxychloroquine] as a treatment for sick, hospitalized patients," said Dr. Steven Kalkanis of Henry Ford Health System.

Vindicated? Trump-touted COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine works, according to new study

The anti-malaria drug that President Trump touted as a possible treatment for coronavirus, hydroxychloroquine, successfully lowered the death rate among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in the most recent study of the drug.

justthenews.com

The CNN test results were from the drug being used on people who had the Grim Reaper standing next to their beds. Damned drug still saved a few of them.BAWWWHAHA!!!

 

[John T. Ford]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia. Likely anyone on digoxin should probably not get it-----but I don't know

Obviously .... you don't know.

Hydroxchloroquine has been FDA approved since 1954.

You are parroting Fake News Hysteria.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia.

That's ridiculous. Hundreds of millions of people have taken HCQ with no ill effects. The drug is proven safe.

Wow!! Another one here with logic skills. Damned amazing.

 

[John T. Ford]

some democrats

But, ALL Useful Idiots .....

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

ok----seems like anyone who gets hydroxychloroquin should be on heart monitor to determine the subpopulation likely to respond with cardiac arrhythmia. Likely anyone on digoxin should probably not get it-----but I don't know

Obviously .... you don't know.

Hydroxchloroquine has been FDA approved since 1954.

You are parroting Fake News Hysteria.

Another one with logic. Welcome. That's a hell of a Reaction Score you got started. Here. I'll mark another for ya.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

some democrats

But, ALL Useful Idiots .....

Notice how they use the word, "Some Dems" when they want to distance, but usually told what to think.

 

[John T. Ford]

Dr. Zervos also pointed out, as does the paper, that the study results should be interpreted with some caution, should not be applied to patients treated outside of hospital settings and require further confirmation in prospective, randomized controlled trials that rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine therapy for COVID-19.


“Currently, the drug should be used only in hospitalized patients with appropriate monitoring, and as part of study protocols, in accordance with all relevant federal regulations,” Dr. Zervos said.


Henry Ford Health System, as one of the region’s major academic medical centers with more than $100 million in annual research funding, is involved in numerous COVID-19 trials with national and international partners.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

www.henryford.com

Hey Genius ....

Millions of Americans take Hydroxychloroquine everyday and are not monitored hospitalized patients.

Leftist are so gullible for the Fake News.

 

[John T. Ford]

Notice how they use the word, "Some Dems" when they want to distance, but usually told what to think.

All Leftist are mentally ill .... "Some" even realize it.

 

[John T. Ford]

The Joy that the left had in reporting negative news about hydroxychloroquine was what was really remarkable to me. The libs are actually rooting for the pathogen, I guess they think that its their best and only chance against the Trumpster.

I looked at the historical record. When Jonas Salk beat polio, the media didn't root against him at all. They didn't report with pleasure more deaths from the disease. .

Why is Biden et al so pro-death and disease?

There is a reason Leftism is referred to as a mental disorder.

 

[John T. Ford]

That's ridiculous. Hundreds of millions of people have taken HCQ with no ill effects. The drug is proven safe.

Leftist are not operating in reality.

 

[Andylusion]

Dr. Zervos also pointed out, as does the paper, that the study results should be interpreted with some caution, should not be applied to patients treated outside of hospital settings and require further confirmation in prospective, randomized controlled trials that rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine therapy for COVID-19.


“Currently, the drug should be used only in hospitalized patients with appropriate monitoring, and as part of study protocols, in accordance with all relevant federal regulations,” Dr. Zervos said.


Henry Ford Health System, as one of the region’s major academic medical centers with more than $100 million in annual research funding, is involved in numerous COVID-19 trials with national and international partners.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

www.henryford.com

Yes. That is correct. And still vindicates Trump. He was right. The left-wing screamers, and the lying media were wrong.

 

[Muhammed]

Two clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19, one in the US and one in the UK, were stopped early because their data suggested hydroxychloroquine wasn't helpful.

It turns out that the Lancet paper that caused the trials to be stopped was junk science and had to be RETRACTED

DEFINE_ME

The clinical trials have restarted.

Leftists are constantly trying to undermine real science with junk science in order to push their political agenda. They are disgusting slimeballs.

 

[Montrovant]

and try to stay on topic......the lies spread by the establishment ,,,and people wonder why there is so much distrust of the official wuhan line

What lies do you mean?

Hopefully hydroxychloroquine and dexamethasone both are useful and cheap treatments. Hopefully remdesivir works, too. The more effective treatments available, the better.

There was a flurry of articles, all posted here .......

A flurry of articles saying what? There have been studies showing that hydroxychloroquine isn't effective. There have been studies showing that it is. They can both be true, depending on the nature of the studies.

 

[2aguy]

Dr. Zervos also pointed out, as does the paper, that the study results should be interpreted with some caution, should not be applied to patients treated outside of hospital settings and require further confirmation in prospective, randomized controlled trials that rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine therapy for COVID-19.


“Currently, the drug should be used only in hospitalized patients with appropriate monitoring, and as part of study protocols, in accordance with all relevant federal regulations,” Dr. Zervos said.


Henry Ford Health System, as one of the region’s major academic medical centers with more than $100 million in annual research funding, is involved in numerous COVID-19 trials with national and international partners.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

www.henryford.com

And?

 

[2aguy]

Dr. Zervos also pointed out, as does the paper, that the study results should be interpreted with some caution, should not be applied to patients treated outside of hospital settings and require further confirmation in prospective, randomized controlled trials that rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine therapy for COVID-19.


“Currently, the drug should be used only in hospitalized patients with appropriate monitoring, and as part of study protocols, in accordance with all relevant federal regulations,” Dr. Zervos said.


Henry Ford Health System, as one of the region’s major academic medical centers with more than $100 million in annual research funding, is involved in numerous COVID-19 trials with national and international partners.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

www.henryford.com

Yes. That is correct. And still vindicates Trump. He was right. The left-wing screamers, and the lying media were wrong.

We need to really think about this.........the democrat party press activists wanted this drug to fail....worked to make sure that it would fail.....so that more people would die, and they could use that to defeat Trump in November......

And we wonder what other lengths they will go to to beat Trump?