*Hush Money, Gone Bad!!!!

[j-mac]

Trump has been attacking this judge, his family, the DA, witnesses etc etc since day one. That's why he's been gagged. Now he expects a favor from the court?

Tough shit. What goes around, comes around.

Oh, so you’re saying the judge is biased?

 

[j-mac]

He hasen't been convicted of anything.

That’s right….Remember that the next time you start having diarrhea of the mouth, saying ‘he‘s a criminal’ or, talking about ‘his crimes’

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No.
This is beyond accepting an illegal contribution.
This is using campaign funds to commit a bribe.

THIS IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE

This is using campaign funds to commit a bribe.

John Edwards used campaign funds to pay off his baby momma, but didn't do time.

Trump used his own money for an NDA. Perfectly legal.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

if you commit a crime while doing so, yeah it's a crime. Had Trump just paid her, he'd be home free unless he was prosecuted for prosititution.

What crime?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin concurred, saying that the comments are "gonna be a big issue in the case."

“How is the government gonna prove that Trump knew and initiated or at least supported the idea that these payoffs were recorded as legal fees?" he continued, "He said, ‘Mark them down.’ Now, as Jessica said, he sort of caught himself. But, you know, that that video could be played before the jury, no question.”

I was paying a lawyer and marked it down as a legal expense. Some accountant, I didn’t know, marked it down as a legal expense. That’s exactly what it was, and you get indicted over that?" Trump said. "I should be in Pennsylvania and Florida, in many other states. North Carolina, Georgia, campaigning."

Lubin' Toobin? LOL!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is if the payments were hidden during a presidential campaign in order to benefit that campaign. In that case the payments become campaign contributions and the law says that campaign contributions of that size have to be disclosed.
Now we don't even know if Trump was the legitimate winner of the 2016 election since he had to cheat to win.
Probably a good thing he only served one term since even that one was a complete train wreck.

It is if the payments were hidden during a presidential campaign in order to benefit that campaign.

Is everything that benefits a campaign a contribution?

In that case the payments become campaign contributions and the law says that campaign contributions of that size have to be disclosed.

Trump made a contribution to his own campaign?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

FPOTUS#45 could have totally complied with the law and not be in any legal jeopardy right now.

Remember the payment to Daniels was made - IIRC - 11 days before the election. The pre-election day FEC filings were already done, the next filings would be AFTER the election.

So cut a certified check to Daniels from his personal account, report it to his campaign people as an in-kind contribution. Then weeks later the campaign accountants report it on the next FEC filing. By that time the election is over and FPOTUS#45 wouldn't have cared.
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Now why do I say he wouldn't have cared? Because in the statement of facts from the DA, there are claims they have emails showing that FPOTUS#45 tried to direct the lawyer to stall the payment until after the election. At which point the story would come out and FPOTUS#45 would save $130,000.

Which if they do have that evidence, it's the most disabling of the claim "I did it so Melania wouldn't find out" (which the story had already been published years before) and "I wanted to protect the Trump brand. For either of those scenarios it would be just as important not to have the story come out after the election.

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So cut a certified check to Daniels from his personal account, report it to his campaign people as an in-kind contribution.

How is a cash payment an in-kind contribution?

AMI spent money to kill a story and that makes it a contribution?

 

[WorldWatcher]

So cut a certified check to Daniels from his personal account, report it to his campaign people as an in-kind contribution.

How is a cash payment an in-kind contribution?

Yes. The payment was made to support the campaign. Since the cash wasn’t given to the campaign but to externally support it, that would be an in kind contribution.

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AMI spent money to kill a story and that makes it a contribution?

Looks like it.

But since the GOP members of the FEC killed investigations into the Trump campaign nothing was done.

WW

 

[Dadoalex]

Let's see you prove that he "directed" anything....

That's up to the prosecution and they've already done it to Cohen and Weisselberg just like they did it to Capone and will do to Thomas.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes. The payment was made to support the campaign. Since the cash wasn’t given to the campaign but to externally support it, that would be an in kind contribution.



Looks like it.

But since the GOP members of the FEC killed investigations into the Trump campaign nothing was done.

WW

Yes. The payment was made to support the campaign.

You're lying.

Since the cash wasn’t given to the campaign but to externally support it, that would be an in kind contribution.

Any external support given to a campaign, cash or otherwise, is an in kind contribution?

Looks like it.

Money spent on a story is a contribution. Interesting.

 

[CowboyTed]

The main problem here itm is an illegal campaign donation and highly illegal...

It's not a campaign contribution.

Money paid to Porn Star to keep quite 11 days before an election is a Campaign Contribution.

You can argue what you like and tell the Jury they are too fucking dumb to not see that. See how that goes...

this was information kept from the voters illegally...

Keeping information from the voters isn't illegal. DURR.

The information was kept from the voters by illegal means.. Than means illegally...
It is very hard to pay off a porn star that you fucked 11 days before election without breaking the law.

What he is charged with is paying through his business an illegal campaign donation and writiing it off as an expenses...

NDAs aren't campaign donations. NDAs are tax deductible.

Paying for the NDA is effectively a benefit to the Trump Camapign.

Again, go in front of the Jury and call them dumb fucks by asking to believe it is not...

If you want to treat the Jury with that much contempt, go on ahead... They might come back and ask is the Death Penalty an option.

Trump's defence will be to say he knew nothing about it and it was others in the business... i.e. Micheal Cohen did it without instruction and reimbursement. This will be a hard sell considering he signed off on the payments to Cohen.
He will also try and say it wasn't a campaign donation.

If it's a campaign contribution, Trump can spend as much of his own money on his campaign as he wants. Not illegal.

Except he signed the cheques to pay Cohen. Here is a fucking picture:

That's reimbursement, your arguement is fucked... a

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh, so you’re saying the judge is biased?

It is not biased... Trump's behaviour is taken into account when he asks for leniency from the court...

 

[CowboyTed]

This is using campaign funds to commit a bribe.

John Edwards used campaign funds to pay off his baby momma, but didn't do time.

Trump used his own money for an NDA. Perfectly legal.

Edwards was a screwed up prosecution...

No precedence but nice try...

 

[j-mac]

That's up to the prosecution and they've already done it to Cohen and Weisselberg just like they did it to Capone and will do to Thomas.

Uh huh….we‘ll see.

 

[j-mac]

It is not biased... Trump's behaviour is taken into account when he asks for leniency from the court...

Your describing bias…

 

[Clipper]

That’s right….Remember that the next time you start having diarrhea of the mouth, saying ‘he‘s a criminal’ or, talking about ‘his crimes’

Trump is a criminal lowlife & I'll continue to say it.

Remember that the next time your head is up his ass.

 

[CowboyTed]

It is if the payments were hidden during a presidential campaign in order to benefit that campaign.

Is everything that benefits a campaign a contribution?

In that case the payments become campaign contributions and the law says that campaign contributions of that size have to be disclosed.

Trump made a contribution to his own campaign?

Correct me if I am wrong but spending Campaign Money to hide an affair is an illegal use of campaign fund.

That is what they tried to get Jon Edwards on (and failed), prosecutors screwed it up later..

John Edwards used funds to hide affair, court hears

Defence team says most of illegal donation went to an aide and that Edwards is a man of 'many sins but no crimes'

www.theguardian.com

Paying off to hide an affair is very tricky to do without breaking the law...

The best way is to hire Stormy in this case as a election consultant and pay an large salary for a no show job.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Sorry bout that,

1. So, Stephanie, the person known as Stormy Danials, didn't stay hushed eh? crazy stuff.
2. So she got the hush many, and yet we are trying to make, Trump pay again? crazy stuff.
3. Manafort is some how involved, a witness to the payoff, so she did get paid? crazy liberal stuff.
4. I see no laws broken, prostitute got paid to be quite, she got the money right? " "
5. Some Karen MacDoggel, another paid prostitute, she gets like 150,00, she was paid right?
6. Again no law broken.
7. Intent is what is best known, we know and see that the left will attack him for, EVERTHING, that comes to their rabbit brains.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

lock em all up Manafort, TRump etal

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes. The payment was made to support the campaign.

You're lying.

No I'm not. The Bush "Grab'em by the Vagina" tape scandal had just come out. The payment was made 11 days before the election.

What alternative reason other than to support the campaign would there be?

Remember the claim is that the prosecution has evidence showing that there was an attempt to delay the payment until after the election meaning the story could come out then.

So what reasonable explanation do you have that applies before the election but not after?

Or have we just devolved to the personal insults phase?

WW

 

[Lesh]

Trump is accused of being in concert with Cohen in this whole sordid mess.

Cohen was convicted and served jail time for his part in it