*Hush Money, Gone Bad!!!!

In context of business only... You can't fuck a porn star and claim the covering up it as a business expense any more than putting hookers as a business expense...

You may not like it, but apparently, you can.
Please tell us who you are speaking to in the IRS...


"To claim a write off, an individual would have to be conducting a trade or business. Plus, the hush money would have torelate to that trade or business. For an individual, that can be a tall order.

Trump wasn't engaging with Stormy in a business sense... If he was, he couldn't introduce it now and what ever he says would have to be matched by Stormy and she isn't going to perjure herself for Trump...
 
Please tell us who you are speaking to in the IRS...


"To claim a write off, an individual would have to be conducting a trade or business. Plus, the hush money would have torelate to that trade or business. For an individual, that can be a tall order.

Trump wasn't engaging with Stormy in a business sense... If he was, he couldn't introduce it now and what ever he says would have to be matched by Stormy and she isn't going to perjure herself for Trump...

Please tell us who you are speaking to in the IRS...


It's common knowledge.

The attacks on NDAs have expanded into legislation. Federal, state and local governments, including New York, have taken steps to make it more difficult for two parties to enter into an NDA. The Federal Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 provides that where an NDA is included in a settlement of sexual harassment claims, the employer may not treat any settlement payments as tax deductible, nor may either party deduct related attorneys’ fees or litigation expenses.1

See the above change? Aside from that, NDAs are still deductible.

"To claim a write off, an individual would have to be conducting a trade or business. Plus, the hush money would have to relate to that trade or business. For an individual, that can be a tall order.

It was a company write-off, not an individual.
 
So you admit you are not even looking for him to found innocent...

Never fantazied about Trump getting the Death Penalty... Where you getting that from... I said if Biden was up on these charges, the MAGA would want the death penalty and considering they accuse him of Treason everyday, are you going to reute that?

You make a few accusations yourself... Who are you calling a 'Soros stooge'? Could you show us evidence... Does this person know George Soros or what?

Yep, New York is a Blue City... Kansas is a Red State... What's your point? These are professionals...
So much you got wrong there
 
The main problem here itm is an illegal campaign donation and highly illegal...

It's not a campaign contribution.
Money paid to Porn Star to keep quite 11 days before an election is a Campaign Contribution.

You can argue what you like and tell the Jury they are too fucking dumb to not see that. See how that goes...

this was information kept from the voters illegally...

Keeping information from the voters isn't illegal. DURR.
The information was kept from the voters by illegal means.. Than means illegally...
It is very hard to pay off a porn star that you fucked 11 days before election without breaking the law.

What he is charged with is paying through his business an illegal campaign donation and writiing it off as an expenses...

NDAs aren't campaign donations. NDAs are tax deductible.
Paying for the NDA is effectively a benefit to the Trump Camapign.

Again, go in front of the Jury and call them dumb fucks by asking to believe it is not...

If you want to treat the Jury with that much contempt, go on ahead... They might come back and ask is the Death Penalty an option.
Trump's defence will be to say he knew nothing about it and it was others in the business... i.e. Micheal Cohen did it without instruction and reimbursement. This will be a hard sell considering he signed off on the payments to Cohen.
He will also try and say it wasn't a campaign donation.


If it's a campaign contribution, Trump can spend as much of his own money on his campaign as he wants. Not illegal.
Except he signed the cheques to pay Cohen. Here is a fucking picture:

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That's reimbursement, your arguement is fucked... a
 
Money paid to Porn Star to keep quite 11 days before an election is a Campaign Contribution.

You can argue what you like and tell the Jury they are too fucking dumb to not see that. See how that goes...


The information was kept from the voters by illegal means.. Than means illegally...
It is very hard to pay off a porn star that you fucked 11 days before election without breaking the law.


Paying for the NDA is effectively a benefit to the Trump Camapign.

Again, go in front of the Jury and call them dumb fucks by asking to believe it is not...

If you want to treat the Jury with that much contempt, go on ahead... They might come back and ask is the Death Penalty an option.

Except he signed the cheques to pay Cohen. Here is a fucking picture:

View attachment 933409
That's reimbursement, your argument is fucked... a

Money paid to Porn Star to keep quite 11 days before an election is a Campaign Contribution.

Which part of the law backs your claim?

The information was kept from the voters by illegal means..

NDAs aren't illegal.

Can you list the legal means you're allowed to use to keep info from voters?
Can you list the illegal means you're not allowed to use to keep info from voters?
Or maybe a link to the legislation that lists them?

Paying for the NDA is effectively a benefit to the Trump Camapign.

A New York Times article saying Biden is awesome and Trump is awful is effectively a benefit to the Biden Campaign.

Except he signed the cheques to pay Cohen.

He's not allowed to pay Cohen? Legal fees are legal, just like NDAs.
Just like contributing to your own campaign.
 
Money paid to Porn Star to keep quite 11 days before an election is a Campaign Contribution.

Which part of the law backs your claim?
Contributions are the most common source of campaign support. A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

campaign funds" are (legally) defined by the Federal Election Campaign Act as funds "used for purposes in connection with the campaign to influence the federal election of the candidate"


We know you want more dark money in elections but there are laws...


The information was kept from the voters by illegal means..

NDAs aren't illegal.

Can you list the legal means you're allowed to use to keep info from voters?
Can you list the illegal means you're not allowed to use to keep info from voters?
Or maybe a link to the legislation that lists them?
It was paid for illegally.. Trump Inc. paid the porn star... That was an illegal business expense which was also an illegal campaign contribution

Paying for the NDA is effectively a benefit to the Trump Camapign.

A New York Times article saying Biden is awesome and Trump is awful is effectively a benefit to the Biden Campaign.
That is under freedom of speech...
Playing stupid doesn't really work...
You are going to be complaining about the result of this case... You are playing or are ignorant of basic law..

Your view is Trump robvs a bank, show us the law that says he can't rob a bank, then you say he has money in that bank, then you tell us Banks get robbed all the time, then you will say that Bank robbery isn't a crime and peiple are getting away with all the time...



Except he signed the cheques to pay Cohen.

He's not allowed to pay Cohen? Legal fees are legal, just like NDAs.
Just like contributing to your own campaign.
He paid Cohen under the pretence of Legal fees but he admitted that those fees were to pay Stormy...
Again playing fucking dumb on stuff Trump admitted was a pay off already... Are you that stupid about this case...
Please educate yourselff if you enter a discussion, you playing the dumbest **** in the world is quite tiresome.
 
Please tell us who you are speaking to in the IRS...

It's common knowledge.

The attacks on NDAs have expanded into legislation. Federal, state and local governments, including New York, have taken steps to make it more difficult for two parties to enter into an NDA. The Federal Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 provides that where an NDA is included in a settlement of sexual harassment claims, the employer may not treat any settlement payments as tax deductible, nor may either party deduct related attorneys’ fees or litigation expenses.1

See the above change? Aside from that, NDAs are still deductible.

"To claim a write off, an individual would have to be conducting a trade or business. Plus, the hush money would have to relate to that trade or business. For an individual, that can be a tall order.

It was a company write-off, not an individual.
What business was Trump conducting for Trump Inc. that he has declared by now, with Stormy when fucking her?

You can't just your business to pay your personal expenses... How fucking stupid are ye about how to run a business...

You can't get your company to buy your kids birthday present, buy hookers, pay your wife's plastic surgery..

Pay a Porn Star to keep quite about you fucking her and spanking you with a picture of your family on it is also on that list...

But tell us how you would justify that to a IRS agent as a legitimate business expense..
 
Contributions are the most common source of campaign support. A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

campaign funds" are (legally) defined by the Federal Election Campaign Act as funds "used for purposes in connection with the campaign to influence the federal election of the candidate"


We know you want more dark money in elections but there are laws...



It was paid for illegally.. Trump Inc. paid the porn star... That was an illegal business expense which was also an illegal campaign contribution


That is under freedom of speech...
Playing stupid doesn't really work...
You are going to be complaining about the result of this case... You are playing or are ignorant of basic law..

Your view is Trump robvs a bank, show us the law that says he can't rob a bank, then you say he has money in that bank, then you tell us Banks get robbed all the time, then you will say that Bank robbery isn't a crime and peiple are getting away with all the time...




He paid Cohen under the pretence of Legal fees but he admitted that those fees were to pay Stormy...
Again playing fucking dumb on stuff Trump admitted was a pay off already... Are you that stupid about this case...
Please educate yourselff if you enter a discussion, you playing the dumbest **** in the world is quite tiresome.

A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

Right. Like a story in the New York Times.

It was paid for illegally.. Trump Inc. paid the porn star... That was an illegal business expense which was also an illegal campaign contribution

If it's a business expense, show how it is illegal.

If Trump paid a porn star as a campaign expense, the most you'd have him on is not reporting his own contribution to his own campaign.

You can't just your business to pay your personal expenses...

Sure you can. Some would be deductible, some not.

You can't get your company to buy your kids birthday present, buy hookers, pay your wife's plastic surgery..

You can give the hookers and the wife money as 1099 consultants.
They have to declare the income and pay taxes on it.

But tell us how you would justify that to a IRS agent as a legitimate business expense..

NDAs are a deductible business expense.
 
Contributions are the most common source of campaign support. A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

campaign funds" are (legally) defined by the Federal Election Campaign Act as funds "used for purposes in connection with the campaign to influence the federal election of the candidate"


We know you want more dark money in elections but there are laws...



It was paid for illegally.. Trump Inc. paid the porn star... That was an illegal business expense which was also an illegal campaign contribution


That is under freedom of speech...
Playing stupid doesn't really work...
You are going to be complaining about the result of this case... You are playing or are ignorant of basic law..

Your view is Trump robvs a bank, show us the law that says he can't rob a bank, then you say he has money in that bank, then you tell us Banks get robbed all the time, then you will say that Bank robbery isn't a crime and peiple are getting away with all the time...




He paid Cohen under the pretence of Legal fees but he admitted that those fees were to pay Stormy...
Again playing fucking dumb on stuff Trump admitted was a pay off already... Are you that stupid about this case...
Please educate yourselff if you enter a discussion, you playing the dumbest **** in the world is quite tiresome.

That is under freedom of speech...

Speech which benefits a campaign. Did they declare the contribution?

Your view is Trump robvs a bank, show us the law that says he can't rob a bank, then you say he has money in that bank, then you tell us Banks get robbed all the time, then you will say that Bank robbery isn't a crime and peiple are getting away with all the time...

You're lying.

He paid Cohen under the pretence of Legal fees but he admitted that those fees were to pay Stormy...

Both payments would be deductible, so it's not tax fraud.

Trump admitted was a pay off already

That's not illegal.
 
A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

Right. Like a story in the New York Times.

It was paid for illegally.. Trump Inc. paid the porn star... That was an illegal business expense which was also an illegal campaign contribution

If it's a business expense, show how it is illegal.

If Trump paid a porn star as a campaign expense, the most you'd have him on is not reporting his own contribution to his own campaign.

You can't just your business to pay your personal expenses...

Sure you can. Some would be deductible, some not.

You can't get your company to buy your kids birthday present, buy hookers, pay your wife's plastic surgery..

You can give the hookers and the wife money as 1099 consultants.
They have to declare the income and pay taxes on it.

But tell us how you would justify that to a IRS agent as a legitimate business expense..

NDAs are a deductible business expense.
You are trying to use ignorance of the law as an excuse.

Trump paid illegal Campaign donation using Business Expense...

This is why he is in court...He admits to paying it... And has said he can't justify it as a business expense...

Now the payment it's self is unreported and Trump can't justify spending campaign funds on a NDA to a Porn Star so she won't tell people about him fucking her while his wife was at home with there 4 month old baby...

You are saying he could call her a consultant but he didn't... You have to say that before you pay... He could have said something like that in discovery, no one would have believed him but still didn't...

You can keep going down NDA aren't illegal and they aren't for employees but generally speaking you are serious dodgy legal territory when paying a women an NDA about fucking her so close to an election.

Could Trump have hired as a Consultant months before the election and put her on a huge salary... Yes... She would paid tax on it and it would have been legal... But Trump is as thick as dogshit, the people he hires are as thick as dogshit (and that include Micheal Cohen). Trump should have put his affairs on the table and got them sorted months before the election but he is thick as dogshit and thoiught he would get away with it. Trump is also cheap, both these pay offs didn't cost $400k on a campaign that cost about $1bn.
There were so many ways this could be buried but they were thick as dogshit...
 
That is under freedom of speech...

Speech which benefits a campaign. Did they declare the contribution?
This was covered in the Supreme court ruling on Citizens United.
Your view is Trump robvs a bank, show us the law that says he can't rob a bank, then you say he has money in that bank, then you tell us Banks get robbed all the time, then you will say that Bank robbery isn't a crime and peiple are getting away with all the time...

You're lying.
Nope... That is your take...
Trump has been charged, they are making a scase and you want to ignore everything and start a new denfence again...
Doesn't work that way...
He paid Cohen under the pretence of Legal fees but he admitted that those fees were to pay Stormy...

Both payments would be deductible, so it's not tax fraud.
Nope... They are not legitmate business expenses...
Are you stupid, even Trump admits they are not legitimate Business expenses..
Trump admitted was a pay off already

That's not illegal.
Paying her is not illegal...

But as said before...
It is not a Business Expense.
It was an undisclosed campaign contribution.
It is an illegal use of Campaign funding..

This is why this is a felony and not a misdemeanour...

Turns out it is very hard to buy silence 11 days before an election legally..
 
Why would paying off a whore that does not work for the company to keep silent about a sexual encounter, be tax deductible?
In fairness Stormy is not a whore... She didn't take payment on the night..
Cost Trump $130k and possible jail sentence number years later...

Anyway no self respecting whore would spank you on the ass with a magazine with your family on it...
 
In fairness Stormy is not a whore... She didn't take payment on the night..
Cost Trump $130k and possible jail sentence number years later...

Anyway no self respecting whore would spank you on the ass with a magazine with your family on it...
You're right, she's not a prostitute!
 
Let's wait for the trial, to hear the evidence...and see how NY state presents its case....none of us really know what Bragg will present or what Trump's defence team will present....

It should begin next week, and not take that long...
 
Let's wait for the trial, to hear the evidence...and see how NY state presents its case....none of us really know what Bragg will present or what Trump's defence team will present....

It should begin next week, and not take that long...
Seems like sound advice.

I will however make my own (pained) prediction.

The criminal justice system allows for a presumption of innocence and a beyond reasonable doubt standard in which 12 members of a jury have too agree. I'm pretty skeptical that the available information about the evidence would be sufficient to overcome that hurdle.

Even if you're skeptical about the likely argument that he did what he did to avoid Melania finding out (and I am.) I think it will be very hard to prove it's untrue to the satisfaction of a full jury.
 
Seems like sound advice.

I will however make my own (pained) prediction.

The criminal justice system allows for a presumption of innocence and a beyond reasonable doubt standard in which 12 members of a jury have too agree. I'm pretty skeptical that the available information about the evidence would be sufficient to overcome that hurdle.

Even if you're skeptical about the likely argument that he did what he did to avoid Melania finding out (and I am.) I think it will be very hard to prove it's untrue to the satisfaction of a full jury.
It went public and was known about, in 2011 and Stormy was not paid off back then to keep it from Melania is what I have read.

But I do agree, I think there is a good chance that there could be no conviction or hung jury depending on what Bragg has to show....
 
It went public and was known about, in 2011 and Stormy was not paid off back then to keep it from Melania is what I have read.

But I do agree, I think there is a good chance that there could be no conviction or hung jury depending on what Bragg has to show....
They could always, and likely will, that in 2011 he didn't need to pay off Stormy because he wasn't under the microscope of a presidential election. And he wanted to spare her the embarrassment.

As I said. The argument sounds unconvincing. But it doesn't sound ridiculous. And they only have to convince one person it is a reasonable explanation.
 
You are trying to use ignorance of the law as an excuse.

Trump paid illegal Campaign donation using Business Expense...

This is why he is in court...He admits to paying it... And has said he can't justify it as a business expense...

Now the payment it's self is unreported and Trump can't justify spending campaign funds on a NDA to a Porn Star so she won't tell people about him fucking her while his wife was at home with there 4 month old baby...

You are saying he could call her a consultant but he didn't... You have to say that before you pay... He could have said something like that in discovery, no one would have believed him but still didn't...

You can keep going down NDA aren't illegal and they aren't for employees but generally speaking you are serious dodgy legal territory when paying a women an NDA about fucking her so close to an election.

Could Trump have hired as a Consultant months before the election and put her on a huge salary... Yes... She would paid tax on it and it would have been legal... But Trump is as thick as dogshit, the people he hires are as thick as dogshit (and that include Micheal Cohen). Trump should have put his affairs on the table and got them sorted months before the election but he is thick as dogshit and thoiught he would get away with it. Trump is also cheap, both these pay offs didn't cost $400k on a campaign that cost about $1bn.
There were so many ways this could be buried but they were thick as dogshit...

Trump paid illegal Campaign donation using Business Expense...

You say it's a campaign expense because supposedly it was a benefit.
Like a positive New York Times story is a benefit.

Now the payment it's self is unreported and Trump can't justify spending campaign funds on a NDA

He didn't spend campaign funds, as you said, he used business funds.

You are saying he could call her a consultant

In response to your false claim.

Could Trump have hired as a Consultant months before the election and put her on a huge salary... Yes... She would paid tax on it and it would have been legal...

Or he could have paid her for an NDA, with she also has to pay taxes on.
 

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