How would you kill him?

[westwall]

Yes it does as there is a chasm between the ideology of a freedom fighter and that of a terrorist.

But it does as it shows that terrorists are not concerned about how the world perceives them just in the impact of their murders

I gave you answers to the only ones I know of that stoop so low as to be pariahs, can you say the same thing. Or are you defending their methods and actions because they use them against those who oppose your POV

Well.... you don't seem to know very many groups that might be considered freedom fighters or terrorists, so how the hell would you know?

Go back and tell me which of those groups are terrorist groups and which are freedom fighters.

Read my reply to the same question, it is there for all to see.

A clue for you any group that uses violence is not freedom fighters but cold blooded terrorist killers.

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

 

[Humanity]

Read my reply to the same question, it is there for all to see.

A clue for you any group that uses violence is not freedom fighters but cold blooded terrorist killers.

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

Correct but the troll is just being a troll and not posting anything of relevance to the thread. He ignores any evidence and just attacks the posters and not their replies.

Have you produced any evidence? Nope!

Your admittance that you know nothing of the subject is, well, evidence enough Phoney!

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are targeting children in another country with illegal weapons that the UN have declared to be war crimes. They have tunneled under Israeli schools and mined the tunnels with H.E. in an attempt at mass murdering thousands of Jewish children, little realising that only pro terrorists would see that as a valid form of self defence.

So you are now saying that a person who votes against war is not innocent and must bear the cost of their leaders going to war. Does this mean that because the Palestinians elected a known terrorist organisation that they are all terrorists so no longer innocent in your eyes ? So making them valid military targets under international law ?

You do realise that the Palestinians have had it in their power to build a nation in peace and with the help of Israel since 1923 and have constantly turned down the chance because they refuse to share anything with anyone

You're using a lot of rhetoric.

However I'm not going to defend the Palestinians who use violence.
What I am going to do is attack all those who use violence as a way of gaining power. One of the worst was Ariel Sharon, some of the stuff he was doing, not only as leader of Israel, but mainly as leader of Israel, were also just as bad.

Basically the right in Israel and groups like Hamas need violence to keep themselves relevant. It's pure nationalism, nothing worse than mindless nationalism. The Israelis attack the Palestinians and the Palestinians attack the Israelis who use this as an excuse to attack the Palestinians who use this as an excuse to attack the Israelis who then attack the Palestinians and so on and on and on and on.

There's no point in taking sides in this conflict, on both sides you have bad stuff going on that isn't worthy of civilized humanity, but happens anyway.

Yes, I'm saying those who vote for something (or vote for someone else but then another party gets elected) are responsible for the actions of that government. So, the Palestinians, the Americans, the British, the Israelis, the Russians and many others who take part in democratic-ish elections and put in place people who go out and kill people.

I'm aware of what the Palestinians have done. I'm also aware of what the British, the Americans and the Israelis have done there too. I'm not basing my views on ignorance, nor on bias. I'm basing it on what is there.

Two sides of the war, both being controlled by nationalists on the right who are making everything much worse.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

Do you know anything about the French resistance?

Did they target German children with Illegal weapons, or did they target German soldiers ?

How many German children were in France during the occupation? Probably not many, if none at all.

So what's your point?

How many Israeli children were in Palestine when the Palestinians were targeting them ? That is my point the Palestinians target children in another country because that is how they are and don't care about international laws or IHL as they don't see them applying to their terrorism.

How many Palestinian children were in Palestine when the Israelis targeted them?

Do you think the Israelis care much for Arab children? Do you think they care much about the people who are in camps because they're not allowed back into their homeland? This concerns both the Israelis and the Arabs.

Lots of people don't care. You seem to be pretending it's just the Palestinians, or just the Muslims. It clearly isn't.

You think the US govt gave a damn about the people of Iraq when it invaded? Nope.

 

[anotherlife]

How to kill Israeli soldiers? This is not my war, but how about this idea. Undress them naked, then paint them in the color of a Hamas uniform. Finally, when night falls, make him run towards his own posts whilst you play spitfire sounds. You can even take bets how near he gets before falling. Hehehe.

 

[montelatici]

Well.... you don't seem to know very many groups that might be considered freedom fighters or terrorists, so how the hell would you know?

Go back and tell me which of those groups are terrorist groups and which are freedom fighters.

Read my reply to the same question, it is there for all to see.

A clue for you any group that uses violence is not freedom fighters but cold blooded terrorist killers.

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

The French Resistance targeted French civilians they believed were collaborators. Many French women were killed just for dating German soldiers. The French Resistance were not "armed forces" and did not carry their weapons openly. Had they, they would have shot on the spot.

The IRA were considered Freedom Fighters by many constituencies in the United States, yet they mostly killed civilians, Protestants and Catholics they considered disloyal.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

 

[Phoenall]

They are targeting children in another country with illegal weapons that the UN have declared to be war crimes. They have tunneled under Israeli schools and mined the tunnels with H.E. in an attempt at mass murdering thousands of Jewish children, little realising that only pro terrorists would see that as a valid form of self defence.

So you are now saying that a person who votes against war is not innocent and must bear the cost of their leaders going to war. Does this mean that because the Palestinians elected a known terrorist organisation that they are all terrorists so no longer innocent in your eyes ? So making them valid military targets under international law ?

You do realise that the Palestinians have had it in their power to build a nation in peace and with the help of Israel since 1923 and have constantly turned down the chance because they refuse to share anything with anyone

You're using a lot of rhetoric.

However I'm not going to defend the Palestinians who use violence.
What I am going to do is attack all those who use violence as a way of gaining power. One of the worst was Ariel Sharon, some of the stuff he was doing, not only as leader of Israel, but mainly as leader of Israel, were also just as bad.

Basically the right in Israel and groups like Hamas need violence to keep themselves relevant. It's pure nationalism, nothing worse than mindless nationalism. The Israelis attack the Palestinians and the Palestinians attack the Israelis who use this as an excuse to attack the Palestinians who use this as an excuse to attack the Israelis who then attack the Palestinians and so on and on and on and on.

There's no point in taking sides in this conflict, on both sides you have bad stuff going on that isn't worthy of civilized humanity, but happens anyway.

Yes, I'm saying those who vote for something (or vote for someone else but then another party gets elected) are responsible for the actions of that government. So, the Palestinians, the Americans, the British, the Israelis, the Russians and many others who take part in democratic-ish elections and put in place people who go out and kill people.

I'm aware of what the Palestinians have done. I'm also aware of what the British, the Americans and the Israelis have done there too. I'm not basing my views on ignorance, nor on bias. I'm basing it on what is there.

Two sides of the war, both being controlled by nationalists on the right who are making everything much worse.

Are you or are you letting your views taint the reality, no evidence has been submitted that shows the Jews are the ones starting the violence is there. Now as to your warped view of democracy how are the people who vote against a leader responsible for that leaders actions when they cant do anything about him. Unless you expect them to go out and kill the elected leader and put themselves in power, isn't that what you are against ?

 

[Phoenall]

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

Do you know anything about the French resistance?

Did they target German children with Illegal weapons, or did they target German soldiers ?

How many German children were in France during the occupation? Probably not many, if none at all.

So what's your point?

How many Israeli children were in Palestine when the Palestinians were targeting them ? That is my point the Palestinians target children in another country because that is how they are and don't care about international laws or IHL as they don't see them applying to their terrorism.

How many Palestinian children were in Palestine when the Israelis targeted them?

Do you think the Israelis care much for Arab children? Do you think they care much about the people who are in camps because they're not allowed back into their homeland? This concerns both the Israelis and the Arabs.

Lots of people don't care. You seem to be pretending it's just the Palestinians, or just the Muslims. It clearly isn't.

You think the US govt gave a damn about the people of Iraq when it invaded? Nope.

When did the Israeli's target the children then ? The last I heard is that Israel gave plenty of warning of the strikes on buildings harbouring terrorists and their weapons and hamas refused to let the children leave.

Would you care about a group that attacks your children in the hope of changing your views on staying in your country, because I wouldn't. I would expect my government to take action against them to the point of wiping them out if needed.

The evidence clearly shows that it is just the muslims and the Palestinians that are the cause of 80% of the worlds violence and wars. And in light of the recent reports that show the Palestinians were gearing up for a fight then anything that happens to them is well deserved.

No America and the UK did not care one iota about the people of Iraq after their army invaded Kuwait and fired at American and British citizens working there.

 

[Phoenall]

How to kill Israeli soldiers? This is not my war, but how about this idea. Undress them naked, then paint them in the color of a Hamas uniform. Finally, when night falls, make him run towards his own posts whilst you play spitfire sounds. You can even take bets how near he gets before falling. Hehehe.

hamas don't have a uniform ......................................

 

[Phoenall]

Read my reply to the same question, it is there for all to see.

A clue for you any group that uses violence is not freedom fighters but cold blooded terrorist killers.

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

The French Resistance targeted French civilians they believed were collaborators. Many French women were killed just for dating German soldiers. The French Resistance were not "armed forces" and did not carry their weapons openly. Had they, they would have shot on the spot.

The IRA were considered Freedom Fighters by many constituencies in the United States, yet they mostly killed civilians, Protestants and Catholics they considered disloyal.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

 

[westwall]

Read my reply to the same question, it is there for all to see.

A clue for you any group that uses violence is not freedom fighters but cold blooded terrorist killers.

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

The French Resistance targeted French civilians they believed were collaborators. Many French women were killed just for dating German soldiers. The French Resistance were not "armed forces" and did not carry their weapons openly. Had they, they would have shot on the spot.

The IRA were considered Freedom Fighters by many constituencies in the United States, yet they mostly killed civilians, Protestants and Catholics they considered disloyal.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

No, they targeted civilians they KNEW were collaborators. Huge difference. They were targeting active combatants.

No, French women were NOT killed for dating Germans. They did have their hair cut off but that was it. The women who were killed were usually the victims of more mundane circumstance such as jealousy from former boyfriends. Once again huge difference.

The IRA were terrorists pure and simple and the majority were trained in terrorism by Libya and other Stalinist countries.

My wife's grandmother was French resistance and lost three friends to the GESTAPO so I suggest you shut the **** up about that which YOU don't know a damned thing about.

 

[montelatici]

You would call the French resistance during WWII "cold blooded terrorist killers"?

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

The French Resistance targeted French civilians they believed were collaborators. Many French women were killed just for dating German soldiers. The French Resistance were not "armed forces" and did not carry their weapons openly. Had they, they would have shot on the spot.

The IRA were considered Freedom Fighters by many constituencies in the United States, yet they mostly killed civilians, Protestants and Catholics they considered disloyal.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

No, they targeted civilians they KNEW were collaborators. Huge difference. They were targeting active combatants.

No, French women were NOT killed for dating Germans. They did have their hair cut off but that was it. The women who were killed were usually the victims of more mundane circumstance such as jealousy from former boyfriends. Once again huge difference.

The IRA were terrorists pure and simple and the majority were trained in terrorism by Libya and other Stalinist countries.

My wife's grandmother was French resistance and lost three friends to the GESTAPO so I suggest you shut the **** up about that which YOU don't know a damned thing about.

1. No, they targeted civilians they KNEW were collaborators.

They didn't know they SUSPECTED. They were murdered without trial. There was no certainty that they were collaborators. Many were simply police officers doing their jobs.

2. No, French women were NOT killed for dating Germans.

"Yet resistance groups could also be merciless towards women. In Brittany it is said that a third of those civilians killed in reprisals were women."

An ugly carnival: how thousands of French women were treated after D-day

Again, you are shown to be a charlatan.

 

[westwall]

No as they were armed forces and carried their weapons openly

That has to be your funniest post this month!

They also targeted German soldiers. NOT civilians. Big difference, but Pal supporters ignore that.

The French Resistance targeted French civilians they believed were collaborators. Many French women were killed just for dating German soldiers. The French Resistance were not "armed forces" and did not carry their weapons openly. Had they, they would have shot on the spot.

The IRA were considered Freedom Fighters by many constituencies in the United States, yet they mostly killed civilians, Protestants and Catholics they considered disloyal.

Don't post nonsense about something you know nothing about.

No, they targeted civilians they KNEW were collaborators. Huge difference. They were targeting active combatants.

No, French women were NOT killed for dating Germans. They did have their hair cut off but that was it. The women who were killed were usually the victims of more mundane circumstance such as jealousy from former boyfriends. Once again huge difference.

The IRA were terrorists pure and simple and the majority were trained in terrorism by Libya and other Stalinist countries.

My wife's grandmother was French resistance and lost three friends to the GESTAPO so I suggest you shut the **** up about that which YOU don't know a damned thing about.

1. No, they targeted civilians they KNEW were collaborators.

They didn't know they SUSPECTED. They were murdered without trial. There was no certainty that they were collaborators. Many were simply police officers doing their jobs.

2. No, French women were NOT killed for dating Germans.

"Yet resistance groups could also be merciless towards women. In Brittany it is said that a third of those civilians killed in reprisals were women."

An ugly carnival: how thousands of French women were treated after D-day

Again, you are shown to be a charlatan.

Bullshit. They KNEW the people they killed were collaborators. In fact De Gaulle commissioned a movie to be made to show the collaboration that was committed by the French and when it was presented to him he was shocked by the level of collaboration. So much so that he refused to release the movie so the director took it to GERMANY to have it released.

The Sorrow and the Pity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Funny how you left this part out.....

"But many of the tondeurs, the head-shavers, were not members of the resistance. Quite a few had been petty collaborators themselves, and sought to divert attention from their own lack of resistance credentials. Yet resistance groups could also be merciless towards women. In Brittany it is said that a third of those civilians killed in reprisals were women. And threats of head-shaving had been made in the resistance underground press since 1941."

So, the murders of those women could have been resistance reprisals, or simple homicide, or collaborators hiding their crimes. The "evidence" doesn't support the assertion.

So, mr charlatan, you were saying?

BTW, when you cut and paste your links and try and fool those who ACTUALLY DO know that they are talking about you only make yourself look like a jackass......jackass!

 

[montelatici]

I posted links to mainstream news outlets reporting historical fact, not a Wiki entry that could be changed tomorrow. You said that the French Resistance did not kill women that dated Germans. I proved you wrong and you look like a fool and feel humiliated. I feel for you, but I will point out lies, distortions and disinformation psoted by morons. That's what I do. So let's repeat:

"Yet resistance groups could also be merciless towards women. In Brittany it is said that a third of those civilians killed in reprisals were women."

An ugly carnival: how thousands of French women were treated after D-day

 

[westwall]

I posted links to mainstream news outlets reporting historical fact, not a Wiki entry that could be changed tomorrow. You said that the French Resistance did not kill women that dated Germans. I proved you wrong and you look like a fool and feel humiliated. I feel for you, but I will point out lies, distortions and disinformation psoted by morons. That's what I do. So let's repeat:

"Yet resistance groups could also be merciless towards women. In Brittany it is said that a third of those civilians killed in reprisals were women."

An ugly carnival: how thousands of French women were treated after D-day

No, you provided a link to a story then left out the important qualifier. The story mentions the fact that MANY collaborators engaged in anti collaborator behavior to hide their crimes. You think it's a stretch that they wouldn't kill women who knew they were scumbags? "it is said".. By whom? There's no further information. None. You cling to that as an excuse to legitimize the very real murder of innocent women and children.

Where is the real evidence to support the now 75 year old hearsay? We actually have a home in France. We have relatives and friends who actually WERE Resistance. What do you have? A newspaper article that makes unsupported claims 75 years after the fact.

 

[montelatici]

You continue to deny verifiable fact with anecdotal claims. Very silly.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Are you or are you letting your views taint the reality, no evidence has been submitted that shows the Jews are the ones starting the violence is there. Now as to your warped view of democracy how are the people who vote against a leader responsible for that leaders actions when they cant do anything about him. Unless you expect them to go out and kill the elected leader and put themselves in power, isn't that what you are against ?

You're asking me if I'm letting my views taint reality. I can ask the same question.

This isn't about who started it. The stating point was many decades ago. We don't need to see who starts it, but who causes it to be inflamed. It's clear that the Israelis are inflaming the situation on a constant basis.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/03/27/47501.html

For example this "secret" tunnel under a Muslim area close to one of their most holy sites in the region.

Ariel Sharon: Enemy of peace

Here's how al Jazeera saw Ariel Sharon

"Ariel Sharon: Enemy of peace"

"There are few individuals in the modern history of Israel/Palestine whose actions have been as consistently destructive as those of Ariel Sharon. "

"His premiership, much like his history before that, was characterised by destruction and violations of international law. He presided over the single most significant period of Israeli settlement expansion, illegal under international law, since the Begin era. "

"In addition to the construction of Israeli settlements, he oversaw the wide-scale punitive destruction of Palestinian homes."

"Former US President George W Bush received much criticism when he once called Sharon a "man of peace". One of his predecessors however, President Ronald Reagan, far more accurately described Sharon in his diary in 1982, as "the bad guy who seemingly looks forward to a war"."

There's plenty of evidence to point to Israel provoking violence, just as there is evidence that Hamas does the same thing.

People who have a vote, regardless of who they vote for, have played a part in the system that elects someone to power. You might not agree with the person in charge, but you have consented to the system in place. Just because you didn't get your way, doesn't mean that you, as part of a collective of people, have put someone in charge and this person is then going about IN YOUR NAME killing people.

Now. Here's the deal. Are all Muslims guilty of terrorism? Many on here would say so. Are all Palestinians guilty?

Islam does not elect terrorists. Yet many Americans say all Muslims are responsible. Yet when Bush invades Iraq and causes problems with the Muslim world, they're not, apparently, responsible for these actions.

Do you see the problem here?

The biggest problem is people not being responsible for the actions of those elected officials who rule in their name. People should take more care with who they vote for. But they don't. So they end up with war mongers.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do you know anything about the French resistance?

Did they target German children with Illegal weapons, or did they target German soldiers ?

How many German children were in France during the occupation? Probably not many, if none at all.

So what's your point?

How many Israeli children were in Palestine when the Palestinians were targeting them ? That is my point the Palestinians target children in another country because that is how they are and don't care about international laws or IHL as they don't see them applying to their terrorism.

How many Palestinian children were in Palestine when the Israelis targeted them?

Do you think the Israelis care much for Arab children? Do you think they care much about the people who are in camps because they're not allowed back into their homeland? This concerns both the Israelis and the Arabs.

Lots of people don't care. You seem to be pretending it's just the Palestinians, or just the Muslims. It clearly isn't.

You think the US govt gave a damn about the people of Iraq when it invaded? Nope.

When did the Israeli's target the children then ? The last I heard is that Israel gave plenty of warning of the strikes on buildings harbouring terrorists and their weapons and hamas refused to let the children leave.

Would you care about a group that attacks your children in the hope of changing your views on staying in your country, because I wouldn't. I would expect my government to take action against them to the point of wiping them out if needed.

The evidence clearly shows that it is just the muslims and the Palestinians that are the cause of 80% of the worlds violence and wars. And in light of the recent reports that show the Palestinians were gearing up for a fight then anything that happens to them is well deserved.

No America and the UK did not care one iota about the people of Iraq after their army invaded Kuwait and fired at American and British citizens working there.

Israel killing children?

448 children killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza, UN says

"
448 children killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza, UN says"

One Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every 3 days for the past 13 years

"
One Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every 3 days for the past 13 years"

Israeli admits shooting at Palestinian children on TV game show

"
Israeli admits shooting at Palestinian children on TV game show"

"An Israeli soldier admitted that she shot and killed unknown numbers of Palestinian people, including children, on a Ukrainian television program that aired in early November."

Israelis shoot 4-year-old child in Gaza

"
Israelis shoot 4-year-old child in Gaza"

The thing is you say "the last I heard", well maybe it's that you're getting news that is biased as hell, I don't know. But if you're watching US news, then definitely so.

You say it's 80% of all violence is being caused by Muslims. Er.... prove it. I can make up "statistics" too you know.

 

[Phoenall]

Are you or are you letting your views taint the reality, no evidence has been submitted that shows the Jews are the ones starting the violence is there. Now as to your warped view of democracy how are the people who vote against a leader responsible for that leaders actions when they cant do anything about him. Unless you expect them to go out and kill the elected leader and put themselves in power, isn't that what you are against ?

You're asking me if I'm letting my views taint reality. I can ask the same question.

This isn't about who started it. The stating point was many decades ago. We don't need to see who starts it, but who causes it to be inflamed. It's clear that the Israelis are inflaming the situation on a constant basis.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/03/27/47501.html

For example this "secret" tunnel under a Muslim area close to one of their most holy sites in the region.

Ariel Sharon: Enemy of peace

Here's how al Jazeera saw Ariel Sharon

"Ariel Sharon: Enemy of peace"

"There are few individuals in the modern history of Israel/Palestine whose actions have been as consistently destructive as those of Ariel Sharon. "

"His premiership, much like his history before that, was characterised by destruction and violations of international law. He presided over the single most significant period of Israeli settlement expansion, illegal under international law, since the Begin era. "

"In addition to the construction of Israeli settlements, he oversaw the wide-scale punitive destruction of Palestinian homes."

"Former US President George W Bush received much criticism when he once called Sharon a "man of peace". One of his predecessors however, President Ronald Reagan, far more accurately described Sharon in his diary in 1982, as "the bad guy who seemingly looks forward to a war"."

There's plenty of evidence to point to Israel provoking violence, just as there is evidence that Hamas does the same thing.

People who have a vote, regardless of who they vote for, have played a part in the system that elects someone to power. You might not agree with the person in charge, but you have consented to the system in place. Just because you didn't get your way, doesn't mean that you, as part of a collective of people, have put someone in charge and this person is then going about IN YOUR NAME killing people.

Now. Here's the deal. Are all Muslims guilty of terrorism? Many on here would say so. Are all Palestinians guilty?

Islam does not elect terrorists. Yet many Americans say all Muslims are responsible. Yet when Bush invades Iraq and causes problems with the Muslim world, they're not, apparently, responsible for these actions.

Do you see the problem here?

The biggest problem is people not being responsible for the actions of those elected officials who rule in their name. People should take more care with who they vote for. But they don't. So they end up with war mongers.

Islamonazi propaganda that proves nothing. As in all archeological digs the site is off limits until it is fully explored and noted., this is to preserve fragile evidence and rare antiquities. The only reason this islamonazi rag reported this is so they can incite violence against the Jews. They don't want any evidence of pre-Islamic Jewish occupation in Jerusalem as it will destroy their claims of ownership.

Again an islamonazi rag that reports racist incitement of violence against the Jews. Your Jew hatred is starting to show more and more as your replies are taken apart and shown to be LIES.

Not that long ago you stated that if you vote against your government and they still get elected then it is your fault if they turn bad. So this means that the Palestinians are to blame for the violence and terrorism done on the orders of their government. Or will you now say that they have a special get out clause becasuse they are Palestinian muslims ?
As I often repeat not all muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are muslims, and this from a prominent muslim.

You are wrong as islam does elect terrorists as shown by the numbers of Islamic nations ruled by terrorist groups, and it is not the voters who voted for the other side to blame as they can do no other. So if the muslims had not invaded Kuwait and fired on American citizens then America would not have needed to go to war would it, or would you prefer a coward as a president who would allow the muslims to kill every American man, woman and child because he thought like you.

 

[docmauser1]

You continue to deny verifiable fact with anecdotal claims. Very silly.

Let us stick to our palistanian "saudi sheikhs", owning 99% of the mandate palestine, of course.