How would you fight China?

Impossible. China is as close to a super power that Russia ever was. Thanks to comrade Clinton and a couple of bucks from his big supporter Loral space agency, China has jumped decades in ICBM technology. It's MAD in spades. Funny that the anti-nuke crowd only comes alive during a republican administration.
 
How would us 250 million Americans fight the 1 billion ++ China in a war? They can just keep coming with more and more men and more and more money. How would the US stay its foothold against them?

Let them come. We have plenty of ammo. No nukes needed.
 
I'm glad none of y'all are running the defense department. None of seem to know a whole lot about modern warfare.

Yes, war with China is probably inevitable. In fact, it's likely already started, whether we recognize it or not. We're accustomed to thinking of war in purely military/strategic terms, but to the Oriental mind, it's far more holistic and includes everything from warships to computer programs to cyberwarfare to trade. And, they think in terms of decades while we think in terms of the next budget cycle.

In the first place, discard the scenario of either side physically invading the other. Not gonna happen. The logistics of transporting and maintaining an invasion force, and follow on occupation troops, makes it a no-go for both. Not to mention two important facts:

1. No invasion fleet would get close to either shore. They'd be destroyed enroute.

2. Both China and the United States are too big to physically occupy and control.

If you're going to fight China, the one thing you do NOT want to do is engage them in a land war in Asia. You'll lose. You're too far from your base and way too close to their billion people.

If I were going to fight China, the first thing I'd do is bring back every defense related manufacturing operation to this country. And, I'd heavily tax any US concern doing business in China. Every dollar we spend there strengthens them and weakens us. They know it and that's why they've been assiduously cultivating business ventures with us. The war has already started and WE are providing the capital and know how for them to develop the weapons and industrial base they'll use against us when the time is right. It's foolishness on our part.

The second order of business would be to completely destroy their navy. They don't have much of a blue water navy right now, but the ships they need to protect the source of their imported oil (Iran) are on the ways now and they have intentions of deploying them to control the Straits of Hormuz and Malacca and to dominate the Indian Ocean. Don't let 'em out of the shipyard.

Third. Cyber attack their infrastructure, industrial sector and their military command and control. Put them in the dark and out of communication with each other.

Just those three things would lock China into its own landmass and force them to move any troops they wanted to take anywhere overland, on foot, which makes them targets for our air forces.

By the way, the Obama administration clearly recognizes the threat from China and has made some remarkable changes in our strategic posture to deal with that threat. And, they're thinking holistically too. Our response runs the gamut from a just-below-the-radar trade war, to the President's tax proposals to Congress concerning businesses which offshore our jobs (shot down by the GOP), to a growing relationship with India, to the stationing of US ships in Singapore and US Marines in Australia, to re-focusing of our whole foreign policy to the western Pacific, to the multination efforts to contain Iran, to warming relations with Russia. And, that's just a partial list.
 
Is China the new boogy man?

Russia was literally never a serious threat in a land war way, although it might have nuked a city here and there. Yet halfwit America got behind a New Dealer posing as a NeoCon to triple the national debt tilting at a windmill farming with horses in sight of nuclear power plants. The bottom line on war is nations that can't feed themselves can't win a big war. Russia was stupid enough to invade Afghanistan and a bunch of Asian hillbillies kicked the guts out of the Russians proving it couldn't even win a little war.

It tickles me that nutball America aped Russia and supported harebrained halfwits from Tejas invading Afghanistan under the US flag. There was more truth going on in the Emerald City about the Wicked Witch of the West than there is out of DC about results in Afghanistan.

To connect the dots, the US can put China back in the stone age by restoring tariffs on goods made in factories not inspected and approved by some international body mandated to ensure suicide nets are no longer a common sight on China's indentured labor sites.

In terms of war, China's nuclear capabilities are similar to fixing a watch with a hammer, while US nuclear capabilities are surgical. Russia was more of a threat because Russia could actually have invaded Europe for maybe year or so before being completely obliterated as a political entity.

China? Hilarious. China can have the rest of Asia. Who gives a **** about that except people from there and corporations looking for countries who treat their citizens like animals in terms of exploiting their labor?

The Chinese Navy is analogous to the Italian and French Armies (their WWII surplus stores advertise rifles, "never fired, only dropped once"). The only land wars China is ever going to fight absent being invaded are shitty little wars in shitty little countries around it.

War with China is, in sum, a nonissue.
 
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Is China the new boogy man?

Russia was literally never a serious threat in a land war way, although it might have nuked a city here and there. Yet halfwit America got behind a New Dealer posing as a NeoCon to triple the national debt tilting at a windmill farming with horses in sight of nuclear power plants. The bottom line on war is nations that can't feed themselves can't win a big war. Russia was stupid enough to invade Afghanistan and a bunch of Asian hillbillies kicked the guts out of the Russians proving it couldn't even win a little war.

It tickles me that nutball America aped Russia and supported harebrained halfwits from Tejas invading Afghanistan under the US flag. There was more truth going on in the Emerald City about the Wicked Witch of the West than there is out of DC about results in Afghanistan.

To connect the dots, the US can put China back in the stone age by restoring tariffs on goods made in factories not inspected and approved by some international body mandated to ensure suicide nets are no longer a common sight on China's indentured labor sites.

In terms of war, China's nuclear capabilities are similar to fixing a watch with a hammer, while US nuclear capabilities are surgical. Russia was more of a threat because Russia could actually have invaded Europe for maybe year or so before being completely obliterated as a political entity.

China? Hilarious. China can have the rest of Asia. Who gives a **** about that except people from there and corporations looking for countries who treat their citizens like animals in terms of exploiting their labor?

The Chinese Navy is analogous to the Italian and French Armies (their WWII surplus stores advertise rifles, "never fired, only dropped once"). The only land wars China is ever going to fight absent being invaded are shitty little wars in shitty little countries around it.

War with China is, in sum, a nonissue.



That was quite a load of ignorant nonsense. Do you make balloon animals too?
 
How would us 250 million Americans fight the 1 billion ++ China in a war? They can just keep coming with more and more men and more and more money. How would the US stay its foothold against them?

Just what is your war scenario? China doesn't the airlift or sealift capability to attack us conventionally on our soil. We would easily wipe them out in a naval confrontation. If we were to attack China, there is no way we could deploy enough conventional forces to fight them on their soil. either way, one side or the other would have to resort to NBC warfare.
 
What you're talking about is WWIII. China has nothing to gain and a lot to loose in any confrontation against the US.

I doubt seriously that US would invade Iran. Much more likely would be surgical strikes limited to nuclear development. China doesn't want a nuclear arsenal in Iran any more than we do and they're certainly not going to start a world war over it. What China wants is Iranian oil.
Except we've already been warned by Russia not to strike Iran. And if we do, that will put us in direct military confrontation with Russia. And if we fight Russia, we will also fight China, because they have a defense treaty, much like NATO.
 
What you're talking about is WWIII. China has nothing to gain and a lot to loose in any confrontation against the US.

I doubt seriously that US would invade Iran. Much more likely would be surgical strikes limited to nuclear development. China doesn't want a nuclear arsenal in Iran any more than we do and they're certainly not going to start a world war over it. What China wants is Iranian oil.
Except we've already been warned by Russia not to strike Iran. And if we do, that will put us in direct military confrontation with Russia. And if we fight Russia, we will also fight China, because they have a defense treaty, much like NATO.


Yep, I'm afraid you're right. However, Russia and China are not BFF's by a long shot and China may, or may not, join Russia in opposing us.
 
There is no way China would risk its ass for Russia. They have a long history of enmity, and the Chinese are really, really good at holding grudges.
 
(China also happens to control almost all the world's supply of several minerals our economy now depends on.)


Not really, but they are just about the only place actively mining them.

Where is the evidence?

You seem to specialize in driveby mendacities that in general would embarrass a sophomore of normal awareness in a Mississippi community college. Maybe what you say is true.

Until you can get a second - supporting - sentence in one of the halfwitted negs you specialize in, reading your drivel is a waste of time.
 
Is China the new boogy man?

Russia was literally never a serious threat in a land war way, although it might have nuked a city here and there. Yet halfwit America got behind a New Dealer posing as a NeoCon to triple the national debt tilting at a windmill farming with horses in sight of nuclear power plants. The bottom line on war is nations that can't feed themselves can't win a big war. Russia was stupid enough to invade Afghanistan and a bunch of Asian hillbillies kicked the guts out of the Russians proving it couldn't even win a little war.

It tickles me that nutball America aped Russia and supported harebrained halfwits from Tejas invading Afghanistan under the US flag. There was more truth going on in the Emerald City about the Wicked Witch of the West than there is out of DC about results in Afghanistan.

To connect the dots, the US can put China back in the stone age by restoring tariffs on goods made in factories not inspected and approved by some international body mandated to ensure suicide nets are no longer a common sight on China's indentured labor sites.

In terms of war, China's nuclear capabilities are similar to fixing a watch with a hammer, while US nuclear capabilities are surgical. Russia was more of a threat because Russia could actually have invaded Europe for maybe year or so before being completely obliterated as a political entity.

China? Hilarious. China can have the rest of Asia. Who gives a **** about that except people from there and corporations looking for countries who treat their citizens like animals in terms of exploiting their labor?

The Chinese Navy is analogous to the Italian and French Armies (their WWII surplus stores advertise rifles, "never fired, only dropped once"). The only land wars China is ever going to fight absent being invaded are shitty little wars in shitty little countries around it.

War with China is, in sum, a nonissue.



That was quite a load of ignorant nonsense. Do you make balloon animals too?

Another drive by, there, Skunkotare?

Why don't you dazzle readers with your plan? Or discredit my thoughts with facts instead of skankorousness from your butt?

No one who reads your drivel is expecting much, so it'll be hard for you to let your fans down.
 
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Someone clue me in.

Why are we going to war with China?
 
Despite China being a borderline criminal nation abusing nearly every trade law in existence and one of the worst trade partners for American citizens in the history of the nation, one suspects that even the stupidest nutball and the lowlifiest NeoCon would draw the line at suicide.

There is no possibility the US is ever going to win a land war on mainland Asia. That is not going to happen now or at any time in the future.
 
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Why would we want to fight China? They are a good trading partner

We need to invade Canada....They are much closer and are easier to beat


Are you sure about that? We've already invaded them 4 or 5 times and been sent packing.

They are due

I think we could take them this time. We attack at night when they are drunk
 
Why would we want to fight China? They are a good trading partner

We need to invade Canada....They are much closer and are easier to beat


Are you sure about that? We've already invaded them 4 or 5 times and been sent packing.

They are due

I think we could take them this time. We attack at night when they are drunk


Yeah, but first we infiltrate some operatives into Ottawa and make free Molson and Labatz available to everyone for about a week before we attack. :D
 
(China also happens to control almost all the world's supply of several minerals our economy now depends on.)


Not really, but they are just about the only place actively mining them.

Where is the evidence?

You seem to specialize in driveby mendacities that in general would embarrass a sophomore of normal awareness in a Mississippi community college. Maybe what you say is true.

Until you can get a second - supporting - sentence in one of the halfwitted negs you specialize in, reading your drivel is a waste of time.


Because of the threat of China withholding rare earth minerals from other countries, which they threatened to do to the EU and Japan, the Obama administration has approved Moly Corp's reopening of the Mountain Pass mine in California. It was world's largest back in the 80's and will soon be so again.

Rare-Earth Mining Rises Again in United States | Wired Science | Wired.com
 
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(China also happens to control almost all the world's supply of several minerals our economy now depends on.)


Not really, but they are just about the only place actively mining them.

Where is the evidence?


Here's some, little *****. The rest of the world has begun responding to China's manipulation of their supply by mining elsewhere, like the very productive mine in Mountain Pass CA that was once the world's top source but had been shut down due to environmental concerns and the availability of cheap supplies from China.


Rare Earth Minerals: An End To China's Monopoly Is In Sight - Forbes


China?s advantage erodes in a key area: rare earth minerals - Washington Post



Japan discovers huge mineral deposits in Pacific - video | World news | guardian.co.uk



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/12/b...set-to-start-importing-the-elements.html?_r=0
 
To connect the dots, the US can put China back in the stone age by restoring tariffs on goods made in factories not inspected and approved by some international body mandated to ensure suicide nets are no longer a common sight on China's indentured labor sites. .



Really idiot? China isn't integrated enough into the world economy by now that a trade war would have a serious impact on the economies of Europe and America? Really idiot? China's economy isn't maturing rapidly in various areas of high tech manufacturing? China's domestic economy isn't emerging right now? Really idiot? Back to the Stone Age? Back to the age your primitive mind is stuck in?

Next time before you post, stop, take a breath, count to ten, and then DON'T BE SUCH A ******* MORON.
 
China? Hilarious. China can have the rest of Asia. Who gives a **** about that except people from there and corporations looking for countries who treat their citizens like animals in terms of exploiting their labor? .



Really, you ******* idiot? Who gives a **** about the area where over half the world's population lives? Where vital trade routes, trade partners, and many of our allies live? Really, you ******* idiot? Maybe a lot of people give a ****. The one who needs to be treated like an animal is YOU, ya stupid ******* jackass.


How's that? Enough clarification for you, jackass?
 
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