How would you fight China?

[Wonky Pundit]

The key to invading China is their impenetrable Great Wall. I would mass my forces outside the great wall and then bombard it with air and artillery attacks while I tunneled under another section. As the Chinese formed to fill the breach in their wall, I would move my forces through the tunnel flanking them and leading to their defeat

No need to bother. The wall was originally built to keep looters from escaping with their plunder, not to stop them from getting in.

We could always defeat them the way we defeated the Indians with white mans diseases and rot gut liquor

If bird flu and rice wine can't do that already, I think that plan is hosed.

 

[8236]

Yes, your track record speaks for itself. 'Drive by' was the comment someone made above; very apt. On the other hand, if you were to expand on your thinking rather than just making meaningless comments...

My my, if this thread is anything to go by, then forum standards haved slipped considerably in the last few months.

Are you JStone?

It's a little strange you having the same avatar he had.

Fascinating. As you can see from my join date, number of posts, location and style of writing, then you will realise that I both haven't the time to post thousands of posts in short periods of time and that I'm not American (I'm presuming Jstone is) and am in the UK. The avatar I use is a well known cartoon from the Danish Jyllands Posten newspaper representing Mohammed (no pbuh) with a bomb in his turban. The same cartoon that caused islamic world wide insanity, so I'm not surprised other atheists (or anti-Islumites might use it as their avatar PS. Maybe he copied mine

 

[8236]

The time for any nation to create war will be over natural resources that are depleting globally.

That is the conventional wisdom. However, we are discovering resources at a vastly more rapid rate than we are depleting them - including oil - so such a war is unlikely. At least in the next few centuries it is unlikely.

Vastly more rapid rate than we are depleting them?

I get tired of quoting the worn out statistic that we are consuming the world's oil deposits at a rate one million times greater than they were generated by nature in the first place.

Whether you're talking oil, coal, shale gas or methane hydrate extraction, or even access to fresh water, minerals, agriculturally productive land etc, the problem remains the same TOO MANY PEOPLE=TOO MUCH CONSUMPTION because there are TOO FEW RESOURCES.

Imho we (in the west at least, and certainly in densely populated places like Europe and Japan) have seen our high water mark. The wars you speak of are already happening - they have locally happened in the past (Easter island, the Mayas, lol, even cowboys, farmers and indians - need I mention Lebensraum?). In a globalised economic world, a global resource war will ultimately be inevitable. Just hope you won't see it.

As usual there will be a few winners and loads of losers - and the 'side' you are on doesn't define which of those you might be.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Vastly more rapid rate than we are depleting them?

Yes, particularly with oil and petroleum.

I get tired of quoting the worn out statistic that we are consuming the world's oil deposits at a rate one million times greater than they were generated by nature in the first place.

A "statistic" that was made up from nothing.

Petroleum comes from decayed organic matter. Since the process takes a long time, the fact that we are consuming it faster than it took to brew is obvious. It is also a factoid meant to excite the weak of mind.

We have 65 million years worth of petroleum. If we use it a thousand times faster than it occurs, well damn, we only have 65,000 years of oil, whatever shall we do.

Known oil supplies today are higher than anytime in history. That is a simple fact. In addition, we have oil shale and tar sands that have finally become economical to harvest.

Whether you're talking oil, coal, shale gas or methane hydrate extraction, or even access to fresh water, minerals, agriculturally productive land etc, the problem remains the same TOO MANY PEOPLE=TOO MUCH CONSUMPTION because there are TOO FEW RESOURCES.

Yeah, the end is near, the population bomb is exploding, we are entering an ice age, an asteroid is coming. I've heard all the bullshit for decades.

Hyperbole designed to manipulate the stupid. It's nothing more.

Imho we (in the west at least, and certainly in densely populated places like Europe and Japan) have seen our high water mark. The wars you speak of are already happening - they have locally happened in the past (Easter island, the Mayas, lol, even cowboys, farmers and indians - need I mention Lebensraum?). In a globalised economic world, a global resource war will ultimately be inevitable. Just hope you won't see it.

There are more than enough resources to keep the entire globe in decent style. Where we see shortage, there is always a tyrant creating it - every last time. Whether it is Somali Warlords highjacking food shipments (in the name of Allah) or Kim Jung Un diverting all resources to his army, it is ALWAYS the tyrant causing need.

As usual there will be a few winners and loads of losers - and the 'side' you are on doesn't define which of those you might be.

In liberty, one determines one's own fate. This is why people like me resist the establishment of tyranny - despite Obamunist promises of "free goodies."

 

[Spoonman]

How would us 250 million Americans fight the 1 billion ++ China in a war? They can just keep coming with more and more men and more and more money. How would the US stay its foothold against them?

stop buying from them - game over.

 

[Unkotare]

The time for any nation to create war will be over natural resources that are depleting globally.

That is the conventional wisdom. However, we are discovering resources at a vastly more rapid rate than we are depleting them - including oil - so such a war is unlikely. At least in the next few centuries it is unlikely.

Vastly more rapid rate than we are depleting them?

I get tired of quoting the worn out statistic that we are consuming the world's oil deposits at a rate one million times greater than they were generated by nature in the first place.

Whether you're talking oil, coal, shale gas or methane hydrate extraction, or even access to fresh water, minerals, agriculturally productive land etc, the problem remains the same TOO MANY PEOPLE=TOO MUCH CONSUMPTION because there are TOO FEW RESOURCES.

Imho we (in the west at least, and certainly in densely populated places like Europe and Japan) have seen our high water mark. The wars you speak of are already happening - they have locally happened in the past (Easter island, the Mayas, lol, even cowboys, farmers and indians - need I mention Lebensraum?). In a globalised economic world, a global resource war will ultimately be inevitable. Just hope you won't see it.

As usual there will be a few winners and loads of losers - and the 'side' you are on doesn't define which of those you might be.

There are not too many people, and there are not too few resources. Not even close.

 

[Unkotare]

I wonder how many people recognize what that pic is a play on?