How unscientific are the Biden's administration "green energy" policies!

And we are, definitively, the cause, right? If so, we can stop it, right?

The slight rise in temperatures attributed to mans burning of fossil fuel will most likely stop at end of the current epoch, when the Ice returns.
 


That is an example of the AGW bullshit. Based upon false and fabricated data.

If AGW was real then the sonofabitches wouldn't have to fabricate and cherry pick data, would they? We catch them doing it all the time. Hell, they even admit they do it. We found that out in the Climategate emails.

Even government agencies like NASA and NOAA have been caught red handed fabricating data.

The AGW scammers have lost their credibility a long time ago and only stupid uneducated Moon Bats still believe in that shit.
 
That is an example of the AGW bullshit. Based upon false and fabricated data.

If AGW was real then the sonofabitches wouldn't have to fabricate and cherry pick data, would they? We catch them doing it all the time. Hell, they even admit they do it. We found that out in the Climategate emails.

Even government agencies like NASA and NOAA have been caught red handed fabricating data.

The AGW scammers have lost their credibility a long time ago and only stupid uneducated Moon Bats still believe in that shit.
The hacked emails didn't reveal any fabrication in their methods.

Some people don't think a warmer wetter world will be the end of civilization.
 
Yeah, except no, they didn't. They continued to rise.

And in your article it goes on to say..
"Even if a Grand Solar Minimum were to last a century, global temperatures would continue to warm. The reason for this is because more factors than just variations in the Sun’s output change global temperatures on Earth, the most dominant of those today is the warming coming from human-induced greenhouse gas emissions."

Which was my point in the first place! Even with human-induced emissions, the temperature of the earth would rise... but not at the rate predicted to cause oceans to rise...i.e. why Obama bought a $12M home a mile from the Atlantic!
But probably most practical common sense reason the earth's warming has NOT been 1.53F degrees from 1880 to 2012 has been the attached. Explain to me how accurate 1.53 degree differentials could be achieved by humans standing in 30 below to 100+ degrees, looking at the type of thermometer, copying the readings, then re-copying several times before they were then copied into the central reading log? You tell me if you can distinguish 1 degree differential?
But again... your "science" vs my "science" and that seems to be the issue today with so many controversies. Climate change, COVID,... etc.
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Yeah, except no, they didn't. They continued to rise.

So according to all the "experts" the earth's temperature has risen
average surface air temperature has increased by about 1 °C (1.8 °F) since 1900, with over half of the increase occurring since the mid-1970s
Question for the "experts"....
Why are some stations with known current data excluded from the NASA GISS online database and climate modeling?
 
And in your article it goes on to say..
"Even if a Grand Solar Minimum were to last a century, global temperatures would continue to warm. The reason for this is because more factors than just variations in the Sun’s output change global temperatures on Earth, the most dominant of those today is the warming coming from human-induced greenhouse gas emissions."

Which was my point in the first place! Even with human-induced emissions, the temperature of the earth would rise... but not at the rate predicted to cause oceans to rise...i.e. why Obama bought a $12M home a mile from the Atlantic!

But the greenies need people to panic. It is nothing more than a HUGE money grab.
 
The earth is naturally warming but there is no real scientific proof of AWG. AGW is a Liberal scam with no scientific validity. Just unscientific correlations, false and cherry picked data and shit in shit out computer simulations.

Therefore any policies made to deter AGW is nothing more than Liberal stupidity.

Of course we all know that Liberals aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, don't we?

Worst yet are the uneducated Moon Bats that fall for scam. Too damn stupid to understand the scam.
But the false reports have been written, and MSM and academia has pushed it, so leftists believe them, centrists do not know what to think. Conservatives want marketdriven solutions, and know the costs. So regardless of that, you do need a compromize. So, if the conservatives could join forces with centrists and talk to the moderate left. Then compromize about implementing some cheaper solutions, that also creates job. Otherwise you just get your federal budget doubled. Must make some sort of a bipartisan deal. Not smart to flipflop like USA do, when each partychange in the WH result in just undoing everything the former one enacted.
 
That is just precious. Since when has any serious scientist had to label and publicize the credibility of his/her findings?

If they are using media to label their "certainty" a "gold standard" in reference to what appears to be a VERY uncertain scientific theory you can bet the fucking farm that it is anything but certain. That is amateur hour science. Completely NOT credible. Junk science.

No serious scientist would ever comment on their theory is such a way in any other field of research. It reeks of bullshit.
 
But the false reports have been written, and MSM and academia has pushed it, so leftists believe them, centrists do not know what to think. Conservatives want marketdriven solutions, and know the costs. So regardless of that, you do need a compromize. So, if the conservatives could join forces with centrists and talk to the moderate left. Then compromize about implementing some cheaper solutions, that also creates job. Otherwise you just get your federal budget doubled. Must make some sort of a bipartisan deal. Not smart to flipflop like USA do, when each partychange in the WH result in just undoing everything the former one enacted.


The first thing that needs to be done is put this AGW scam to rest because it is false. However, the stupid uneducated Moon Bats won't do that because AGW is a religion to them.

Then we need to understand that earth's climate is naturally changing and see if we need to do anything to survive the change.

If there is a drastic change (like the earth has done several times) maybe eight billion humans won't be able to survive.

For instance, eight billion humans could not have survived the last ice age but a million or so humans did.

The natural state of the earth is to be warmer than it is now. The earth has been warmer eons more than it has been cooler. Humans evolved during a cooler period. Maybe our species will not flourish in the earth's natural state.
 
That is just precious. Since when has any serious scientist had to label and publicize the credibility of his/her findings?

If they are using media to label their "certainty" a "gold standard" in reference to what appears to be a VERY uncertain scientific theory you can bet the fucking farm that it is anything but certain. That is amateur hour science. Completely NOT credible. Junk science.

No serious scientist would ever comment on their theory is such a way in any other field of research. It reeks of bullshit.

They've had two year to disprove it.
 
They've had two year to disprove it.
And you have touched on the real problem with the AGW theory. It cannot be disproved. It is NOT falsifiable.

We cannot measure the impact of human activity on the carbon dioxide levels because the control is such a big variable and we cannot remove human activity from the equation to get anything remotely close to a control.

This should have been deemed a scam from the beginning.
 
So according to all the "experts" the earth's temperature has risen
average surface air temperature has increased by about 1 °C (1.8 °F) since 1900, with over half of the increase occurring since the mid-1970s
Question for the "experts"....
Why are some stations with known current data excluded from the NASA GISS online database and climate modeling?


We honestly don't know what "the temperature" of the earth is.

Prior to WWII global temperature data mostly came from Europe and the US. Data from Africa, South America and many parts of Asia was sparse.

Most of the data collected in Europe and the US was collected in universities mostly located in or near big cities.

Ice cores and tree rings or approximations at best.

Nowadays we are collecting data at many more locations but we can't compare it past times because we didn't collect similar data in the past.

Satellite data is a joke. The temperature sensors on the satellites are only calibrated withing the range of +/- five degrees F. Making assertions that the ocean is getting 1 degree F warmer or whatever is simply bad data. The kind of fabrication we see out of the AGW nuts all the time.

By the way, there is a tremendous data base on earth's recent temperature that hasn't been tapped. For hundreds of years the Royal Navy has recorded temperature several times a day on all their ships. The temperatures was recorded in the ship's log and all the logs are archived. The data just needs to be retrieved and analyzed. It would be a big project but could give us a much better picture of the earth's temperature going back a few hundred years.
 
And the deniers are funded by groups that are making bank with the status quo.

Better plan on adaptation.
Very good point! Which to me means which does the MSM support?
Well from my layman's point of view the MSM supports Democrats/communists/anti-American.
The MSM also supports global warming.
Proof?
Just did a search on the following: "Is the earth warmer"
Results: 23,600
Now a search for ""Is the earth cooler"
Results: 9,190

It appears the MSM supports global warmer more than global cooling... by almost 3 times.
Now some of you would say ..."DUH.... that's because it is!...DUH!"
I'm saying maybe "consensus" doesn't mean it is right.
Remember this:
Galileo was ordered to turn himself in to the Holy Office to begin trial for holding the belief that the Earth revolves around the sun, which was deemed heretical by the Catholic Church.
Consensus was the sun revolved around the earth!
 
The hacked emails didn't reveal any fabrication in their methods.

Some people don't think a warmer wetter world will be the end of civilization.
It was fabrication of their reporting when their 'methods' failed to prove what they were claiming.
 
Strange Sounds reported that Soon said,
"what we predict is that the next 20-30 years will be cold. It will be cold, so it will be a very interesting thing for the IPCC to confront."
"As the effects of global warming worsen, human health, livelihood, food security, water supply, and economic growth will be jeopardized. It is incumbent on us to implement a plan in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and begin to combat the consequential long-term and short-term effects of global warming on both the environment and on humans."

So Joe... are you really following the "science" when some "scientists" say we are in for a "cold spell"????
You deniers have been predicting global cooling since the 70's, and then you talk about global warming predictions being wrong! :cuckoo:
 
Sunspot activity has fallen off from the hyperactivity of the 1990s and early 2000s. More sunspots, more sun, higher temperatures.
And yet here in 2021 we are STILL getting warmer with LESS sunspots, so sunspots are obviously meaningless!!!!!
 

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