How Trump will Unravel All American Power and Wealth

[citygator]

This post should be entitled:

How Carney is Unraveling All Canadian Power and Wealth

 

[Nostra]

Carney lays it out plainly: the postwar bargain worked because U.S. leadership was built on mutual benefit—open sea lanes, a stable financial system, and collective security. Countries bought into American-led integration because it made everyone stronger, including us.

But that bargain is breaking. The world is realizing that integration with the United States is no longer a shared advantage when it can be weaponized at the whim of one president—when “collective good” becomes leverage, and cooperation becomes coercion.

America’s influence didn’t come from bullying allies. It came from creating a system where nations wanted to align with us. Demand for U.S. securities, goods, and institutions was earned through trust and predictability—not fear.

If the U.S. forces the world to rethink its integration with us, we won’t just “look tough.” We’ll undermine the very foundation of our own economic and financial dominance. Trump is playing with fire like a 13-year-old with matches in a dry grass field.

And a feckless Republican Congress will be complicit.

"American hegemony in particular helped provide public goods, a stable financial system... this bargain no longer works. Let me be direct. We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition... recently, great powers have begun using economic integration as a weapon. Tariffs as leverage ... "

Who cares what a KKKanadian Cuck Sez?

 

[Rogue AI]

Meh. I called you out on your lie by actually showing you your own words that you denied posting. Your posts you make me look good. Thanks.

My words were not the words you used. If you want to play semantics you will lose. I suppose just being in close proximity of my posts does make you look better, on your own you could not possibly look worse.

 

[citygator]

My words were not the words you used. If you want to play semantics you will lose. I suppose just being in close proximity of my posts does make you look better, on your own you could not possibly look worse.

Well let me restate my question in your exact (robbed vs stole) words that you dodged. Where is all the money the EU has stole robbed us of? What did they do with all the money they robbed stole? Why are they not richer than us from getting all that money they stole robbed us of? Were is it?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Casino's win no matter what because it is their system. They win on the transactions, not the results. That was us. We are about to lose that.

Now you've lost the thread of your own analogy. It was a good one, so let's get back on track.

Casinos win because they design the rules to make sure that they win. Casinos avoid losing by not extending credit to deadbeats and not giving freebies to people who will not be profitable.

The united states should be following both of those guidelines in dealing with other countries.

 

[citygator]

Now you've lost the thread of your own analogy. It was a good one, so let's get back on track.

Casinos win because they design the rules to make sure that they win. Casinos avoid losing by not extending credit to deadbeats and not giving freebies to people who will not be profitable.

The united states should be following both of those guidelines in dealing with other countries.

Nothing you listed out makes any sense. Foreigners own $9T of our debt. We are the debtors who rely on trust. Not them genius. They extend US credit. Not the other way around.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[Seymour Flops]

Nothing you listed out makes any sense. Foreigners own $9T of our debt. We are the debtors who rely on trust. Not them genius. They extend US credit. Not the other way around.

Contemplate this and tell me what it means to you:

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/j_paul_getty_129274

Remember, contemplate. No quick answers or I'll know you did not give it any thought.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Carney lays it out plainly: the postwar bargain worked because U.S. leadership was built on mutual benefit—open sea lanes, a stable financial system, and collective security. Countries bought into American-led integration because it made everyone stronger, including us.

But that bargain is breaking. The world is realizing that integration with the United States is no longer a shared advantage when it can be weaponized at the whim of one president—when “collective good” becomes leverage, and cooperation becomes coercion.

America’s influence didn’t come from bullying allies. It came from creating a system where nations wanted to align with us. Demand for U.S. securities, goods, and institutions was earned through trust and predictability—not fear.

If the U.S. forces the world to rethink its integration with us, we won’t just “look tough.” We’ll undermine the very foundation of our own economic and financial dominance. Trump is playing with fire like a 13-year-old with matches in a dry grass field.

And a feckless Republican Congress will be complicit.

"American hegemony in particular helped provide public goods, a stable financial system... this bargain no longer works. Let me be direct. We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition... recently, great powers have begun using economic integration as a weapon. Tariffs as leverage ... "

Cool story

 

[JLW]

Contemplate this and tell me what it means to you:

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/j_paul_getty_129274

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Remember, contemplate. No quick answers or I'll know you did not give it any thought.

Beyond stupid. The US government is not a business that can declare bankruptcy like one of Trump’s casinos. It can only default on its debt, you know like Argentina.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Beyond stupid. The US government is not a business that can declare bankruptcy like one of Trump’s casinos. It can only default on its debt, you know like Argentina.

A sock of citygator, I presume?

It could also monetize its debt. A little gift the left gave us by taking us off the gold standard.

Point you are so carefully avoiding is that the U.S. debt does not mean the people we owe have us over a barrel. That is absurd.

 

[22lcidw]

Carney lays it out plainly: the postwar bargain worked because U.S. leadership was built on mutual benefit—open sea lanes, a stable financial system, and collective security. Countries bought into American-led integration because it made everyone stronger, including us.

But that bargain is breaking. The world is realizing that integration with the United States is no longer a shared advantage when it can be weaponized at the whim of one president—when “collective good” becomes leverage, and cooperation becomes coercion.

America’s influence didn’t come from bullying allies. It came from creating a system where nations wanted to align with us. Demand for U.S. securities, goods, and institutions was earned through trust and predictability—not fear.

If the U.S. forces the world to rethink its integration with us, we won’t just “look tough.” We’ll undermine the very foundation of our own economic and financial dominance. Trump is playing with fire like a 13-year-old with matches in a dry grass field.

And a feckless Republican Congress will be complicit.

"American hegemony in particular helped provide public goods, a stable financial system... this bargain no longer works. Let me be direct. We are in the midst of a rupture, not a transition... recently, great powers have begun using economic integration as a weapon. Tariffs as leverage ... "

We did it to ourselves. We overpaid people and still do and have stymied ourselves with work rules led by unions as well as government that has mushroomed costs that the taxpayer funds. All people working in privileged employment from the end of WW 2 until around 1970 benefitted massively. We peaked on the private side and led the world in most areas. Then Japan led the way to say, not so fast. Auto, steel, electronics, TV, heavy industries, etc. Government contracts became bloated and inefficient. In cities as an example and this was from the early 1980's renovating a 100-foot bridge that used to take a couple of months to redo actually took three years from contracts. Where nothing is done for periods of time. We do not do the great things anymore.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Well let me restate my question in your exact (robbed vs stole) words that you dodged. Where is all the money the EU has stole robbed us of? What did they do with all the money they robbed stole? Why are they not richer than us from getting all that money they stole robbed us of? Were is it?

When will you grow out of your adolescence and become an adult?

You are so obsessed with other people's money. Get a life

 

[kyzr]

Nothing you listed out makes any sense. Foreigners own $9T of our debt. We are the debtors who rely on trust. Not them genius. They extend US credit. Not the other way around.

There is no "credit". They buy US bonds, we pay them interest.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Another carney licker. Wow usmb has become infested with commie canada love.

 

[citygator]

There is no "credit". They buy US bonds, we pay them interest.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And a feckless Republican Congress will be complicit.

As usual.

 

[Darlo kittu]

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View attachment 1209683funny you use artificial intelligence to post when you should be concerned wuth working repairing repairing your natural stupidity

 

[Bitterhook]

While I do not support trump and his war mongering, calling those people "allies" is a bit of a stretch. They just want our money and protection.
**** them.

The same way that sea lanes, mutual benefit, and collective security are more about globalism than American power and wealth.

Offshoring labor and production, becoming dependent on nations that do not share our interests, and creating policies that require that dependence (such as green policies that require batteries we don't make, using minerals we either don't have or won't mine) in no way makes us stronger or more powerful.

However, there are times when some people make the mistake of thinking we are going to do more to protect our interests, and that we will bring more consequences/pressures (in all forms of negotiations and a healthy dose of them) to bear, somehow means we need to "nuke the planet" to do so.

Likewise, it is easy to understand that when President Trump removes a foreign leader, who the previous administration put a bounty on their head, and who his opposition criticized him for not handling during his previous term, that some folks are going to get their panties in a wad when he does something that amounts to more than just bitching about shit.

 

[citygator]

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It is against board rules to make fake quotes by me. I never said what you put in quotes.

That is apparently your shitting posting at work.