How to save inner city schools.

[Lisa558]

Does it say how to fix the problem?

At least, let’s not DISCOURAGE women from having babies with a husband. Right now, low-income women end up choosing to get their babies on food stamps, Medicaid, housing subsidies, and TANF instead of marrying the man who got her pregnant and giving up all the freebies.

On the flip side, low-income men are free to impregnate as many women as they want and then skirt their financial responsibilities completely. We need instead to, at a minimum, require women to seek child support from the daddies and then garnish the daddies’ paychecks - or else, no government charity at all.

 

[Lisa558]

Simple steps can often solve complicated problems. Simple problems are often unnecessarily complicated i.e. "Too many cooks spoil the broth".

Progressives want to assign all sorts of complex reasons for failure - all blamed on society and past ills, of course - rather than admit the truth: people are responsible for their own outcomes, and their own choices.*

ANYONE who isn’t a complete idiot can finish high school and get some vocational training. (If they’re smart, they can get scholarships for college, and do even better.) But it takes discipline, motivation, and a willingness to accept responsibility for oneself.

P.S. And if one must have sex during high school - which is not necessary at all - then for f sakes, use reliable birth control. There are still young women who think the rhythm method works, even after half-a-dozen unplanned pregnancies.

* We had one blactivist on here saying that anyone who says blacks are responsible for their own choices is a racist.

 

[leftwinger]

Unkotare is afraid to post an actual response

I hate to reply to him on schools. He knows all teaching nights at U of PHX to illegals.

What to do with 4 decades inner city that can't read or add? CommeeJoe complains prisons are too full? Yet they won't work?

Then these "teachers". Get on here and crow about what a good job they are doing? Huh? 80% cant read at 3rd grade level. Hello. Earth? I know its a hard 9 month job. Full pay and deep state benefits in CA ILL off charts.

 

[DGS49]

Inner city schools are not "bad" due to a lack of funding. Look around the country and see that teachers in NYC, Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, LA, and so on are very well compensated (albeit without "combat pay"), and the school budgets are lavish.

They are bad because the home circumstances of the students are shit. Their mothers are single and either working their asses off or being supported by the State (or both), they come to school hungry and unprepared, and the culture disdains education generally. Their role models are drug dealers, hip-hop stars, and professional athletes, none of whom contribute to society in any meaningful way.

The schools pass them through as quickly as possible, regardless of their academic progress, while trying to create paper trails of success ("Death to standardized testing!" cry the teachers). Superintendents are almost invariably chosen for their status as wimmin or POC's, and regardless of a conspicuous lack of success in prior positions. School board members are low-grade political hacks with neither the knowledge or experience to provide anything of value.

While it is a cynical solution indeed, the Republicans' "solution" to the problem of inner city schools is "School Choice"; that is, providing public funding for parents to get their kids the hell out of the shitty urban schools and into either a Charter School, a parochial school, or a private school - anything would be better than keeping your kids in the neighborhood school as it is.

One occasionally hears of an inner city school that is "making it," and would that someone could capture the factors that make it successful and distribute those academic strategies around the country - maybe by the Department of Education - but I've seen no campaign to do so, at least in the news sources that I read.

But for the time being, other than taking a major role in your child's education yourself as a parent (which few parents have the time or qualifications to do), the only solution is to get your kid(s) the hell out of your neighborhood school, if it is a failing one.

 

[Woodznutz]

Progressives want to assign all sorts of complex reasons for failure - all blamed on society and past ills, of course - rather than admit the truth: people are responsible for their own outcomes, and their own choices.*

ANYONE who isn’t a complete idiot can finish high school and get some vocational training. (If they’re smart, they can get scholarships for college, and do even better.) But it takes discipline, motivation, and a willingness to accept responsibility for oneself.

P.S. And if one must have sex during high school - which is not necessary at all - then for f sakes, use reliable birth control. There are still young women who think the rhythm method works, even after half-a-dozen unplanned pregnancies.

* We had one blactivist on here saying that anyone who says blacks are responsible for their own choices is a racist.

In an ironic twist, the gals we had unprotected sex with in high school rarely got pregnant (I knew of only one) whereas soon after high school unwanted pregnancies were rampant. What were those gals thinking?

 

[leftwinger]

At least, let’s not DISCOURAGE women from having babies with a husband. Right now, low-income women end up choosing to get their babies on food stamps, Medicaid, housing subsidies, and TANF instead of marrying the man who got her pregnant and giving up all the freebies.

On the flip side, low-income men are free to impregnate as many women as they want and then skirt their financial responsibilities completely. We need instead to, at a minimum, require women to seek child support from the daddies and then garnish the daddies’ paychecks - or else, no government charity at all.

1st one an "accident".

2nd one 1/2 off full SNAP and must ID father for collections?

3rd one = Chemical Castration or no more pay. Jail her for child abuse. Father too if not paying up.

Time to force some responsibility. Thank God for football and basketall. Some stay relatively crime free?

 

[Woodznutz]

1st one an "accident".

2nd one 1/2 off full SNAP and must ID father for collections?

3rd one = Chemical Castration or no more pay. Jailbreak child abuse. Father too if not paying up.

Time to force some responsibility. Thank God for football and basketall. Some stay relatively crime free?

The saving grace for white women is the waiting list for adoptive white babies. Blacks and Latinos have no such waiting list, so it's either abortion or raise the kids on welfare.

 

[leftwinger]

The saving grace for white women is the waiting list for adoptive white babies. Blacks and Latinos have no such waiting list, so it's either abortion or raise the kids on welfare.

DEM and Deep State R have destroyed 13% of the country to gain power over many decades. Now they move to Latino. Or muzzslime. It's a mess.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

At least, let’s not DISCOURAGE women from having babies with a husband. Right now, low-income women end up choosing to get their babies on food stamps, Medicaid, housing subsidies, and TANF instead of marrying the man who got her pregnant and giving up all the freebies.

On the flip side, low-income men are free to impregnate as many women as they want and then skirt their financial responsibilities completely. We need instead to, at a minimum, require women to seek child support from the daddies and then garnish the daddies’ paychecks - or else, no government charity at all.

So you want to do this through legislation? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. You cannot legislate human behavior past a certain level of freedom in this country.

If you only knew the struggles of getting child support from a deadbeat Dad, you might change your mind. Have you ever heard, "You can't get blood out of a turnip"? My ex-son-in-law skipped out on my daughter and two grandsons. After he left the Army, he never worked anywhere long enough to get child support even ordered, much less paid. He literally left them behind in Texas when he left for deployment to Afghanistan. He was also two states away, complicating matters further. The boys spent most of their life in my house until they were almost 10 and 8. Even getting a divorce took almost 2 years.

It all sounds so simple until you tried it.

 

[Lisa558]

I hate to reply to him on schools. He knows all teaching nights at U of PHX to illegals.

What to do with 4 decades inner city that can't read or add? CommeeJoe complains prisons are too full? Yet they won't work?

Then these "teachers". Get on here and crow about what a good job they are doing? Huh? 80% cant read at 3rd grade level. Hello. Earth? I know its a hard 9 month job. Full pay and deep state benefits in CA ILL off charts.

Maybe a good start would be to stop spending on this time on “social justice” and black oppression and the beauty of socialism - and focus on basic reading and writing.

 

[Lisa558]

So you want to do this through legislation? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. You cannot legislate human behavior past a certain level of freedom in this country.

If you only knew the struggles of getting child support from a deadbeat Dad, you might change your mind. Have you ever heard, "You can't get blood out of a turnip"? My ex-son-in-law skipped out on my daughter and two grandsons. After he left the Army, he never worked anywhere long enough to get child support even ordered, much less paid. He literally left them behind in Texas when he left for deployment to Afghanistan. He was also two states away, complicating matters further. The boys spent most of their life in my house until they were almost 10 and 8. Even getting a divorce took almost 2 years.

It all sounds so simple until you tried it.

I assume she at least sued him for child support, yes?

The problem is that most single mothers - many with 4 and 5 children with different fathers - don’t even BOTHER to try to make him pay. The welfare benefits are so generous that they say it’s easier to not make demands on the fathers and just make the government (translation: other people) support the kids.

 

[Hafar1014]

Maybe a good start would be to stop spending on this time on “social justice” and black oppression and the beauty of socialism - and focus on basic reading and writing.

Like private schools do

 

[Lisa558]

The saving grace for white women is the waiting list for adoptive white babies. Blacks and Latinos have no such waiting list, so it's either abortion or raise the kids on welfare.

What about option #3? Sue the daddies for support.

 

[leftwinger]

So you want to do this through legislation? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. You cannot legislate human behavior past a certain level of freedom in this country.

If you only knew the struggles of getting child support from a deadbeat Dad, you might change your mind. Have you ever heard, "You can't get blood out of a turnip"? My ex-son-in-law skipped out on my daughter and two grandsons. After he left the Army, he never worked anywhere long enough to get child support even ordered, much less paid. He literally left them behind in Texas when he left for deployment to Afghanistan. He was also two states away, complicating matters further. The boys spent most of their life in my house until they were almost 10 and 8. Even getting a divorce took almost 2 years.

It all sounds so simple until you tried it.

That was then. This is now. E-Garnishment. Take his tax refund. If anything at all goes thru banking they can get it easier nowadays.

If he truly has nothing....then how does he live? Long ago they would garnish anything over $125 per week?

Not all can be zero income. Please stop it.

 

[Lisa558]

In an ironic twist, the gals we had unprotected sex with in high school rarely got pregnant (I knew of only one) whereas soon after high school unwanted pregnancies were rampant. What were those gals thinking?

So they were using birth control during high school, and then not?

Maybe you should have used a rubber. If the girl got pregnant, it would have been a big problem for you too. Just saying.

 

[leftwinger]

So they were using birth control during high school, and then not?

Maybe you should have used a rubber. If the girl got pregnant, it would have been a big problem for you too. Just saying.

I just said no to the hundreds of offers. Lol!

 

[Lisa558]

I just said no to the hundreds of offers. Lol!

Yeah, right. IME, no guy turns down sex if the request to wear a rubber is made or no sex.

(In my limited experience, that is. I was a good girl.)

 

[Woodznutz]

What about option #3? Sue the daddies for support.

Most of those women would rather the 'daddies' disappear from their lives.

 

[Woodznutz]

So they were using birth control during high school, and then not?

Maybe you should have used a rubber. If the girl got pregnant, it would have been a big problem for you too. Just saying.

Living at home they were more careful.

Condoms never worked for me; the few times I used them they always broke.

 

[AZrailwhale]

So, tell us the solution. No one has come up with one so far!

The solutions worked for thousands of years. Two parent households, requiring responsibility from parents and children, not having children before the parents could support them. The only societies that didn't use those rules had horrendous infant and child death rates, often with ten percent or fewer children surviving to their teen years. Since the sixties all the "social scientist's" programs have done is remove responsibility from parents, encourage infantile behavior from teenagers and hurt society as a whole.