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You got it backwards. It's the government that decided that kids should ride, by consolidating neighborhood schools into large, distant, regional schools that required busing.

No one is beholden to send your child to public school; and if you do, you're not obligated to ride buses. Or are you shilling for an authoritarian state?
 
Not according to you. You want to make children walk to school by govt fiat. You love the Big State, face it.
Children need more exercise, fresh air. That's my point. The state is a necessary evil.
 
Children need more exercise, fresh air. That's my point. The state is a necessary evil.

You have made the point over and over in this thread that the Big State should mandate how children get to school. I don't know why you're saying the state is the no. 1 enemy when you want THE STATE to make decisions for children.

What next? Set their bedtime? Their menu?

Look, you got caught in a net here, but most men will never back down and admit it. You really should just crawl away.
 
You have made the point over and over in this thread that the Big State should mandate how children get to school. I don't know why you're saying the state is the no. 1 enemy when you want THE STATE to make decisions for children.

What next? Set their bedtime? Their menu?

Look, you got caught in a net here, but most men will never back down and admit it. You really should just crawl away.
I want the state to make better decisions for children while in their mandatory care. Got a problem with that?
 
I want the state to make better decisions for children while in their mandatory care. Got a problem with that?

Yes. You hate that when it comes to pronouns and decisions about gender, but you have decided that kids are fat, so that's okay.

I'm consistent. I don't think the state should be in ANY part of that. Either one.

Now seriously, crawl away.
 
We're not talking about whether it's a good idea. We're talking about usurping parents with The State---which you are in favor of.

Not a conservative position at all
I'm as much a pragmatist as a conservative. School children are in the care of the state for most of the school day. The state should do right by them.
 
I'm as much a pragmatist as a conservative. School children are in the care of the state for most of the school day. The state should do right by them.

Again, what you're proposing is that the state "do right" by them because it's YOUR idea. Anyone else's ideas are groomers, commies, etc.

We are not there to make sure kids are not fat. !!!

Just as we are not there to instruct them on gender identity. !!

I am consistent.
 
Again, what you're proposing is that the state "do right" by them because it's YOUR idea. Anyone else's ideas are groomers, commies, etc.

We are not there to make sure kids are not fat. !!!

Just as we are not there to instruct them on gender identity. !!

I am consistent.
That sounds like the "Logger's Creed".

"We're not here to make the woods look pretty." -Logger's Creed
 
When I was a kid I walked to school, just a couple miles each way.

In wintertime the roads were covered with snow, so we would hooky-bob the bus. :eusa_dance:
 
You have made the point over and over in this thread that the Big State should mandate how children get to school. I don't know why you're saying the state is the no. 1 enemy when you want THE STATE to make decisions for children.

What next? Set their bedtime? Their menu?

Look, you got caught in a net here, but most men will never back down and admit it. You really should just crawl away.
While on the buses the kids are under the control of the state. While walking they aren't, until they arrive at school.
 
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While on the buses the kids are under the control of the state. While walking they aren't, until they arrive at school.

Yeah?

Who's gonna walk those underage kids from wherever King Nutz thinks they should be dropped off, to the school--a distance of a mile, according to you?

Parents will say, oh yeah, just let my five year old off the bus to walk with a bunch of other kids--unchaperoned--an entire mile?

Or will parents say, hey, I'll follow the bus and then walk with my kid to the school?

Even if it's older kids, who wants packs of teens walking through their neighborhood to the school at 7 AM?

You should have stop digging a long time ago. Or maybe not--this is pretty good.
 
Yeah?

Who's gonna walk those underage kids from wherever King Nutz thinks they should be dropped off, to the school--a distance of a mile, according to you?

Parents will say, oh yeah, just let my five-year-old off the bus to walk with a bunch of other kids--unchaperoned--an entire mile?

Or will parents say, hey, I'll follow the bus and then walk with my kid to the school?

Even if it's older kids, who wants packs of teens walking through their neighborhood to the school at 7 AM?

You should have stop digging a long time ago. Or maybe not--this is pretty good.
We'll let five-year-olds walk a half mile (As a five-year-old I walked 8/10th mile one way to school). Distance can increase as kids get older.
 

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