Zone1 how to be saved?

Paul, as well as all of the Apostles of Jesus Christ
I've never met any of them. How dare they say that I have sinned!
were directly taught by the Christ himself, who is God.
Wait a minut. Are you talking about god or about christ? In any case, I've never met them either. Who are these people I've never met and what gives them the right to say that I have sinned?
It is basic Christian doctrine that all mankind that have ever been born on this earth outside of Jesus himself have sinned

And you heard god or christ say it him/themselves or did you read it in a book?
Jesus is known as the Savior of the world.
Saving the world from what?
In other words, it is in and through him that mankind can be saved.
I'll ask you again, saved from what?
Through Jesus all mankind will resurrect and through him only can we all seek and obtain forgiveness of sin.
So this guy called Jesus who you met somewhere is going to save me from some threat that you cannot prove and by a sin that I never committed?
 
Do you trust God? Do you trust Christ's teachings?
Accepting Darwinian evolution in favour of the 'Genesis' stories, puts your chances of being saved, out of the question. Clearly, Catholics have lost their trust!

The Pope can't dictate a new belief system to the big boss's literal word.

Catholics need to put more emphasis on upholding 'Genesis' and stop making lame excuses for their bibles.

You can look to Ken Ham's ark for living proof of that which your faith allowed you to doubt!
 
I've never met any of them. How dare they say that I have sinned!
Wait a minut. Are you talking about god or about christ? In any case, I've never met them either. Who are these people I've never met and what gives them the right to say that I have sinned?
God consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. These three constitute the one true God and are each member of the Godhead. Actually you have met them. Before you were born into this mortal life, you existed as a spirit child of God the Father. Jesus Christ is the firstborn spirit child of God the Father and all the rest of us are his spirit brothers and sisters. Your memory of these things has been removed so that you will learn to walk by faith in this world. But after we die we will all regain our memories of our premortal existence. Your Father in Heaven knows you better than you know yourself. You actually chose to come to this mortal world to learn the difference between good and evil and have your memory of your premortal existence removed for a time so that you could learn to walk by faith and learn to choose in and of yourself whether to be good being or not. Eventually you will die and if you chose to be a good being in this life and repented of your sins and received forgiveness from the Christ, you will come forth in the resurrection of the just and may gain entrance into God's kingdom of heaven. If you chose evil and fail to repent and gain forgiveness of your sins, you will be consigned to a lesser kingdom in the hereafter. God is the literal father of your spirit and is giving you the chance to freely choose to advance to the highest degree in the heavens. But he leaves it to our free agency to choose what manner of being we are willing to become. Before coming here, He knew that all of us would sin and fall short of the glory. For this reason he sent his firstborn son, Jesus Christ, to atone for the sins of the world so that we could seek after forgiveness of sins if we would only repent and change our ways. So now, even though we make mistakes in this life, we can repent and seek forgiveness of our sins.
And you heard god or christ say it him/themselves or did you read it in a book?
I read it in scripture which are the written word of God's revelations to mankind. God has communicated with mankind to let them know the true path that they should choose in this life in order to gain the highest degree of progression in eternity. I have also received witness through the power of the Holy Ghost of the truthfulness of the words I have read.
Saving the world from what?
We are all imperfect beings and were sent this earth to learn the difference between good and evil and were given free will to choose in and of ourselves to be good beings or evil beings. Because of our imperfections, we all fall short of always choosing good over evil. We all sin which is making bad choices to do evil at times. God knew we were imperfect and would make bad choices. But he also knew that we had the capacity to become good beings and thus provided a means for us to repent and receive forgiveness of sin by sending the Christ to atone for the sins of the world. Thus if we stop dong evil by repenting and seek the forgiveness of the Christ, we can change into being better beings. Thus Jesus can save us from our sins by granting us forgiveness. He also can save us from death by granting unto us immortality through the resurrection of the body.
I'll ask you again, saved from what?
dido.
So this guy called Jesus who you met somewhere is going to save me from some threat that you cannot prove and by a sin that I never committed?
God knows all things. He knows the very thoughts and intents of your heart. God sees all things and knows of all your bad deeds. He has provided a means whereby we can overcome our wickedness and become good beings like Himself. Because of his all knowing ways, He knows that we all would sin when we came to this mortal world and thus provided a means for all of us to repent and receive forgiveness. We all reap what we sow. God is giving us the chance to sow and bring forth good fruit while in this mortal world.

God has sent us to this earth to walk by faith. He purposely excludes us from having proof but will at times give us the comfort of the Holy Ghost to give us assurance that He truly exists. Sure, with free will, one could stand in the very face of God and choose never to believe in Him. So no I cannot and will not provide you with absolute proof of these things. They are taken on faith and it is your choice whether to believe them or not. But your choosing to not believe does not make them any less true as we will come to know either in this life or in the world to come.
 
Paul, as well as all of the Apostles of Jesus Christ were directly taught by the Christ himself, who is God. It is basic Christian doctrine that all mankind that have ever been born on this earth outside of Jesus himself have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Jesus is known as the Savior of the world. In other words, it is in and through him that mankind can be saved. Through Jesus all mankind will resurrect and through him only can we all seek and obtain forgiveness of sin.

all lies written in the 4th century christian bible -

jesus taught liberation theology, self determination as the means for admission to the everlasting - to sin no more is their primary requirement only the individual themself can accomplish.
 

Acts 16:30-33​


30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?


31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
It takes a lot more than saying you believe.
 
God consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. These three constitute the one true God and are each member of the Godhead.
So, you believe that one person is three people.
Actually you have met them.
I never met them. You must have me confused with someone else.
Before you were born
Before I was born I wasn't born yet.
..... after we die ...
No one knows what happens after we die.
.... even though we make mistakes in this life
I don't make mistakes.
we can repent and seek forgiveness of our sins.
I don't sin.
I read it in scripture
You read a book?
which are the written word of God's revelations to mankind. God has communicated with mankind

I've read lots of books. A few of them make no sesne so I don't read the whole thing.
... He purposely excludes us from having proof .....
I don't debate with people who offer no proof. I ignore them.
 
True belief in Jesus Christ is to do the works that Jesus asks us to do. You go out and murder, steal, commit adultery, etc and then claim that you believed in Jesus Christ will not bring you salvation. Repentance and believing in Jesus enough to follow his teachings is true belief or true faith. Like the Apostle James declared:

James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Although it is not the works, in and of themselves, that save us but that they are required by the Lord before he will grant his saving grace upon us.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
so you didnt read that verse?
 
so you didnt read that verse?
It is not good to read one, two--even a few verses--and not remember the entirety of scripture. Proof-texting fails while the entirety of scripture thrives.
 
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It is not good to read one, two--even a few verses--

very true - and if possible not read any of the forgeries and fallacies found on nearly every page in all three desert bibles ...

the original heavenly religion of antiquity taught by jesus, only six words in length - the triumph of good vs evil - is the surest way when accomplished to receive judgement and admission to the everlasting.
 
If it's a free gift then nothing must be done to be saved. It is freely given already.
Yes. I thought you had to pay in penance and prayers and faith and internet or megaphone missions.
 
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the entirety of scripture is clear- salvation is a free gift.

If it's a free gift then nothing must be done to be saved. It is freely given already.
Gifts are not "free" in the sense that a gift costs the giver. Ask Christ what it cost him. Then ask him, What did you mean by, "Take up your cross and follow me?"

I would also keep in mind the Parable of the Talents (a unit of silver). These talents were freely given, but when the Master returned he expected something back for his investments. It did not go well for the one who had nothing to give back in return.

One's life and the Way of Salvation are gifts freely given, they are our talents. What are we going to do with them? What is God going to get back in return for the investments He made in us? Will He find us useful or useless? (Another parable). His love for us is great. How great is our love for God? What are we giving back? ninja007 ? Anything given back is a "work" which is why "works" should not be despised nor denigrated. Where is belief leading? What is it prompting? I don't think belief is meant to make a couch potato out of one's faith.
 
Ask Christ what it cost him.
Nothing. He has always existed and always will as part of the triumvirate; omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, Shirley?

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But not the receiver, by whom they are freely received. Otherwise the gift is not freely given.
Gifts are also meant to be used, not ignored. And not sneered at.
 

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