How the US Shattered the Middle East (and Why)

[georgephillip]

Palestine.

Good. Let the Jews have a nation and they can all go there. Muslims have dozens of other counties all to themselves.

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

What's changed since 1945 when it comes to "winning" a war of aggression?

Israel is the original terrorist state.

Good and I support it. What are you going to do about it? I as an American support Israel and I hope they eradicate Hamas and Hezbollah. I welcome your thoughts.

Good and I support it. What are you going to do about it? I as an American support Israel and I hope they eradicate Hamas and Hezbollah. I welcome your thoughts.

I'm supporting those who are ending apartheid in Palestine.

Why do you think Jews have the right to steal the land and water of their non-Jewish neighbors in Palestine?

I support this.

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You support this.

 

[georgephillip]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

But it ends at the limits of the 1922 vision...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they still could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." - accepted nowadays as a truism.

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

What impresses you most about the Jews of Israel, their greed or their racism?

We rule the world. Thank you for the dedication posts. You’re my puppet and *****, Georgie.

We rule the world. Thank you for the dedication posts. You’re my puppet and *****, Georgie.

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Bow before your king.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Looks like everything is going as planned. The next major event over there may be a Damascus trash heap.

How did that plan work out in 2006?

The Lebanon-Israel War of 2006: Global Effects and its Aftermath | Small Wars Journal

Georgie you lost little man.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Good. Let the Jews have a nation and they can all go there. Muslims have dozens of other counties all to themselves.

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

What's changed since 1945 when it comes to "winning" a war of aggression?

Israel is the original terrorist state.

Good and I support it. What are you going to do about it? I as an American support Israel and I hope they eradicate Hamas and Hezbollah. I welcome your thoughts.

Good and I support it. What are you going to do about it? I as an American support Israel and I hope they eradicate Hamas and Hezbollah. I welcome your thoughts.

I'm supporting those who are ending apartheid in Palestine.

Why do you think Jews have the right to steal the land and water of their non-Jewish neighbors in Palestine?

I support this.

View attachment 277766

You support this.

Support? I live it!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

But it ends at the limits of the 1922 vision...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they still could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." - accepted nowadays as a truism.

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

What impresses you most about the Jews of Israel, their greed or their racism?

We rule the world. Thank you for the dedication posts. You’re my puppet and *****, Georgie.

We rule the world. Thank you for the dedication posts. You’re my puppet and *****, Georgie.

View attachment 277767

Bow before your king.

Love it. Your President too little man. Poor little Palestinian is upset boo hoo.

 

[georgephillip]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

After the Defeat of The Globalist Leftist Socialist Dictator called The AntiChrist by The 2nd Coming of The True Christ, that will be The Map of The Middle East.

Evil will be allowed to reign on Earth for a few years prior to that. This is called The Great Tribulation. It will be a time of turmoil and torment like no one has ever seen because God abandons man for a short period of time, and gives him over to his own Evil Desires and allows Evil to rule The Earth.

After The AntiChrist and False Prophet and their armies are destroyed by The Return of Christ, The Messiah will make Jerusalem His capital, and rule from there and Israel's borders will return to the boundaries set by The Abrahamic Covenant as shown in the map you provided.

Palestine will not exist. And all those who oppose God and Israel will no longer exist either.

Thank you.

After the Defeat of The Globalist Leftist Socialist Dictator called The AntiChrist by The 2nd Coming of The True Christ, that will be The Map of The Middle East.

When Magical Thinking On Israel Meets Reality

 

[BlindBoo]

"Ancient History": U.S. Conduct in the Middle East Since World War II and the Folly of Intervention

Since the end of World War II, the United States, like the European colonial powers before it, has been unable to resist becoming entangled in the region’s political conflicts. Driven by a desire to keep the vast oil reserves in hands friendly to the United States, a wish to keep out potential rivals (such as the Soviet Union), opposition to neutrality in the cold war, and domestic political considerations, the United States has compiled a record of tragedy in the Middle East.

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

Background: Oil

If the chief natural resource of the Middle East were bananas, the region would not have attracted the attention of U.S. policymakers as it has for decades. Americans became interested in the oil riches of the region in the 1920s, and two U.S. companies, Standard Oil of California and Texaco, won the first concession to explore for oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930s. They discovered oil there in 1938, just after Standard Oil of California found it in Bahrain. The same year Gulf Oil (along with its British partner Anglo-Persian Oil) found oil in Kuwait. During and after World War II, the region became a primary object of U.S. foreign policy.

 

[JGalt]

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

I never voted for or supported Obama, either Clinton or Bush, and I certainly don't support your "Chosen One" whose drones are currently killing civilians at a greater rate than his predecessor.

What drones and where?

What drones and where?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

I thought you elected him to end US wars of aggression?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

"When it comes to President Obama’s drone wars, President Trump has:

A. Ended them

B. Continued them

C. Escalated them

You’re forgiven for not knowing the answer. It’s C. This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible."

Another Trump Lie?

I did elect him to ends the wars., But to win them, not wave the white flag or exacerbate them, like the surrender-monkey Obama did.

And Trump is winning them. What little is left of ISIS is either desperately trying to regroup, or are the walking dead.

 

[georgephillip]

I never voted for or supported Obama, either Clinton or Bush, and I certainly don't support your "Chosen One" whose drones are currently killing civilians at a greater rate than his predecessor.

What drones and where?

What drones and where?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

I thought you elected him to end US wars of aggression?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

"When it comes to President Obama’s drone wars, President Trump has:

A. Ended them

B. Continued them

C. Escalated them

You’re forgiven for not knowing the answer. It’s C. This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible."

Another Trump Lie?

I did elect him to ends the wars., But to win them, not wave the white flag or exacerbate them, like the surrender-monkey Obama did.

And Trump is winning them. What little is left of ISIS is either desperately trying to regroup, or are the walking dead.

I did elect him to ends the wars., But to win them, not wave the white flag or exacerbate them, like the surrender-monkey Obama did.

And Trump is winning them. What little is left of ISIS is either desperately trying to regroup, or are the walking dead.

Has he won the war in Afghanistan?
Should ALL US troops leave that country?

 

[georgephillip]

"Ancient History": U.S. Conduct in the Middle East Since World War II and the Folly of Intervention

Since the end of World War II, the United States, like the European colonial powers before it, has been unable to resist becoming entangled in the region’s political conflicts. Driven by a desire to keep the vast oil reserves in hands friendly to the United States, a wish to keep out potential rivals (such as the Soviet Union), opposition to neutrality in the cold war, and domestic political considerations, the United States has compiled a record of tragedy in the Middle East.

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa159.pdf

Background: Oil

If the chief natural resource of the Middle East were bananas, the region would not have attracted the attention of U.S. policymakers as it has for decades. Americans became interested in the oil riches of the region in the 1920s, and two U.S. companies, Standard Oil of California and Texaco, won the first concession to explore for oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930s. They discovered oil there in 1938, just after Standard Oil of California found it in Bahrain. The same year Gulf Oil (along with its British partner Anglo-Persian Oil) found oil in Kuwait. During and after World War II, the region became a primary object of U.S. foreign policy.

Your link:

"When Iranian revolutionaries entered the U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1979 and seized 52 Americans, President Jimmy Carter dismissed reminders of America's long intervention in Iran as 'ancient history.'

"Carter's point was not merely that previous U.S. policy could not excuse the hostage taking.

"His adjective also implied that there was nothing of value to be learned from that history.

"In his view, dredging up old matters was more than unhelpful; it was also dangerous, presumably because it could only serve the interests of America's adversaries.

"Thus, to raise historical issues was at least unpatriotic and maybe worse.[1]"

Maybe fossil fuels should be seen as "unpatriotic and maybe worse."?

 

[JGalt]

What drones and where?

What drones and where?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

Of course. That's what we elected him to do.

I thought you elected him to end US wars of aggression?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

"When it comes to President Obama’s drone wars, President Trump has:

A. Ended them

B. Continued them

C. Escalated them

You’re forgiven for not knowing the answer. It’s C. This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible."

Another Trump Lie?

I did elect him to ends the wars., But to win them, not wave the white flag or exacerbate them, like the surrender-monkey Obama did.

And Trump is winning them. What little is left of ISIS is either desperately trying to regroup, or are the walking dead.

I did elect him to ends the wars., But to win them, not wave the white flag or exacerbate them, like the surrender-monkey Obama did.

And Trump is winning them. What little is left of ISIS is either desperately trying to regroup, or are the walking dead.

Has he won the war in Afghanistan?
Should ALL US troops leave that country?

Of course they should pull out. Radiation poisoning after a nuke is a terrible thing to go through.

 

[Correll]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

Why would this "mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland." ?

God Lord, you asked him to justify his position?

Why didn't I think of that, instead of just ridiculing him?

oh, right, because libs can't defend their shit and almost will never even try. They will just spout shit.

When he responds, he will prove me right.

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

ONly an anti-American piece of shit would claim the Iraq War was unprovoked.

 

[JGalt]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

Why would this "mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland." ?

God Lord, you asked him to justify his position?

Why didn't I think of that, instead of just ridiculing him?

oh, right, because libs can't defend their shit and almost will never even try. They will just spout shit.

When he responds, he will prove me right.

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

ONly an anti-American piece of shit would claim the Iraq War was unprovoked.

But they do and they will. Just wait until this coming September 11th: More than one leftard will claim that we were attacked 18 years ago because of something we did.

Mark my words.

 

[Correll]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

“The West Bank”, otherwise known as Judea.

Palestine.

Maybe they should stop starting wars.

Maybe they should stop starting wars.

Arabs in Palestine objected to illegal immigrants from Europe resorting to terrorism to steal their homes, businesses, and bank accounts. What would you have done in their place?

UK opens secret files on 1940s ‘Jewish terrorists’ in Palestine and beyond

Learned after losing two or three times.

 

[Kondor3]

...Of course they should pull out. Radiation poisoning after a nuke is a terrible thing to go through.

<snicker>

 

[Kondor3]

Looks like everything is going as planned. The next major event over there may be a Damascus trash heap.

How did that plan work out in 2006?

The Lebanon-Israel War of 2006: Global Effects and its Aftermath | Small Wars Journal

Georgie you lost little man.

Georgie is probably a little old Palestinian grandma twittering from some $hithole in Gaza... a patron saint of Lost Causes.

That, or an Islamic terrorist sleeper-cell member, honing its propaganda skills... juvenile and amateurish though they may be.

His silly, simpering, whining palaver about the US destroying the Middle East is good for comic relief, but is grotesquely misaligned with reality.

 

[lennypartiv]

ONly an anti-American piece of shit would claim the Iraq War was unprovoked.

There are plenty of anti-American pieces of shit on these internet boards. It's like they completely forgot about the 9/11 attacks already.

 

[Kondor3]

...Bow before your king.

Better than bowing before your Imam, I'm sure.

But, seriously, folks... is there a psychiatrist in the house?

 

[Correll]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

Why would this "mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland." ?

God Lord, you asked him to justify his position?

Why didn't I think of that, instead of just ridiculing him?

oh, right, because libs can't defend their shit and almost will never even try. They will just spout shit.

When he responds, he will prove me right.

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

ONly an anti-American piece of shit would claim the Iraq War was unprovoked.

But they do and they will. Just wait until this coming September 11th: More than one leftard will claim that we were attacked 18 years ago because of something we did.

Mark my words.

Oh, I've caught libs making that argument, many times already.


They are anti-American scum.

 

[protectionist]

There are plenty of anti-American pieces of shit on these internet boards. It's like they completely forgot about the 9/11 attacks already.

And many more Muslim attacks that came after that.

Islamic Attacks on America