How the US Shattered the Middle East (and Why)

[georgephillip]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

I never voted for or supported Obama, either Clinton or Bush, and I certainly don't support your "Chosen One" whose drones are currently killing civilians at a greater rate than his predecessor.

What drones and where?

What drones and where?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

Excellent... fewer Islamic Militant scum using-up the oxygen...

Excellent... fewer Islamic Militant scum using-up the oxygen...

While the heroic, racist Jews continue doing what they do best

What kind of scum target children with drone strikes?
Kosher scum.

 

[georgephillip]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

But it ends at the limits of the 1922 vision...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they still could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." - accepted nowadays as a truism.

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

What impresses you most about the Jews of Israel, their greed or their racism?

Their irrigation system. ......Meanwhile the rest of the world is going to end in 12 years because the earth is warming at 1.3 - 1.5 degrees per century. Guess only the Jews will be left behind selling romaine lettuce

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

But it ends at the limits of the 1922 vision...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they still could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." - accepted nowadays as a truism.

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

What impresses you most about the Jews of Israel, their greed or their racism?

Their irrigation system. ......Meanwhile the rest of the world is going to end in 12 years because the earth is warming at 1.3 - 1.5 degrees per century. Guess only the Jews will be left behind selling romaine lettuce

And the Jews alone will be saved from climate chaos because they make a killing in the lettuce market?

 

[georgephillip]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

“The West Bank”, otherwise known as Judea.

Palestine.

Good. Let the Jews have a nation and they can all go there. Muslims have dozens of other counties all to themselves.

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

What's changed since 1945 when it comes to "winning" a war of aggression?

Israel is the original terrorist state.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Four Horsewomen of idiocy.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

“The West Bank”, otherwise known as Judea.

Palestine.

Good. Let the Jews have a nation and they can all go there. Muslims have dozens of other counties all to themselves.

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

People lose their land when they lose wars. Why are these Muslims exempt from this rule that has been around since apes learned to use clubs?

What's changed since 1945 when it comes to "winning" a war of aggression?

Israel is the original terrorist state.

Good and I support it. What are you going to do about it? I as an American support Israel and I hope they eradicate Hamas and Hezbollah. I welcome your thoughts.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

But it ends at the limits of the 1922 vision...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they still could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." - accepted nowadays as a truism.

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

What impresses you most about the Jews of Israel, their greed or their racism?

We rule the world. Thank you for the dedication posts. You’re my puppet and bitch, Georgie.

 

[theHawk]

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

The Hussein, who you adore, started/supported those wars in Libya and Syria. He is the one that called for regime change when they never attacked us.

I never voted for or supported Obama, either Clinton or Bush, and I certainly don't support your "Chosen One" whose drones are currently killing civilians at a greater rate than his predecessor.

What drones and where?

What drones and where?

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama's numbers

Excellent... fewer Islamic Militant scum using-up the oxygen...

Excellent... fewer Islamic Militant scum using-up the oxygen...

While the heroic, racist Jews continue doing what they do best

What kind of scum target children with drone strikes?
Kosher scum.

Curious, when are you going to grab a gun and help them?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Georgie wants to complete the mission of the Holocaust and kill us all. He is just too chicken to come out and state as such.

 

[Dragonlady]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

Why would this "mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland." ?

God Lord, you asked him to justify his position?

Why didn't I think of that, instead of just ridiculing him?

oh, right, because libs can't defend their shit and almost will never even try. They will just spout shit.

When he responds, he will prove me right.

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

 

[Lesh]

And the OP never bothered to mention Iraq at all...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And the OP never bothered to mention Iraq at all...

The OP wants all Jews dead like you, Herr Lesh, why would he mention Iraq?

 

[Lesh]

And the OP never bothered to mention Iraq at all...

The OP wants all Jews dead like you, Herr Lesh, why would he mention Iraq?

Fuck you ya piece of shit.

NEVER have I said anything of the kind you piece of human filth

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And the OP never bothered to mention Iraq at all...

The OP wants all Jews dead like you, Herr Lesh, why would he mention Iraq?

Fuck you ya piece of shit.

NEVER have I said anything of the kind you piece of human filth

Except you did. Consistently vilifying Israel. As far as your ad Hominems, Herr Lesh, I take them as badges of honor.

 

[protectionist]

What kind of scum target children with drone strikes?
Kosher scum.

What? No pictures of dead Israeli kids, killed by Hamas rockets and car bombs ?

 

[protectionist]

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

1. Which "unprovoked attack on Iraq", when, by whom ?

2. The nations allies of the US, still are.

3. That might be true, but it's also true ISIS wouldn't have existed, if Obama had not pulled US troops out of Iraq in 2011, and then colluded with al Bagdadi, refraining from doing airstrikes against ISIS convoys on open, desert roads (sitting ducks for airstrikes). Obama even supplied ISIS.

US Generals on Iraq: Obama Must Do More Than 'Pinprick' Airstrikes

 

[protectionist]

Are you unfamiliar with the "safe havens myth"?

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"What makes the situation in the Arabian Peninsula’s south particularly disturbing is that supposed foreign policy 'experts' in D.C. have long been hysterically asserting that the top risk to America’s safety are Islamist-occupied 'safe havens' or ungoverned spaces.

"I’m far from convinced that the safe-haven myth carries much water; after all, the 9/11 attacks were planned in Germany and the U.S. as much as in, supposedly, the caves of Afghanistan."

If the top risk to US security stems from "safe havens" in the Middle East, why is the US military creating more of them?

That wasn't the question.

 

[Dragonlady]

The reasons why these policies have increased the dangers to the USA shouldn't have to be explained. Start with:

1. The unprovoked attack on Iraq gave an entirely new generation of Arabs good and valid reasons for hating the USA and wanting to destroy your nation.

2. The 22 nations which have been affected by these wars were mostly allies of the USA, or at least not hostile to American interests. Now you have 37 disaffected quasi nation states with which you have no relationship with to call upon.

3. ISIS would not have existed if not for the Iraq War.

That none of this was readily apparent to you shows what lying idiots you Russians really are.

1. Which "unprovoked attack on Iraq", when, by whom ?

2. The nations allies of the US, still are.

3. That might be true, but it's also true ISIS wouldn't have existed, if Obama had not pulled US troops out of Iraq in 2011, and then colluded with al Bagdadi, refraining from doing airstrikes against ISIS convoys on open, desert roads (sitting ducks for airstrikes). Obama even supplied ISIS.

US Generals on Iraq: Obama Must Do More Than 'Pinprick' Airstrikes

1. The 2002 unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. That was entirely Bin Laden and the Saudis.

2. The nations with ties to the USA don't exist any more.

3. ISIS came into existencein 2005 when W disbanded Saddam's army without disarming his soldiers. Their leaders alignied themselves with a fanatic offshoot of Al Qaeda to form ISIS.

 

[protectionist]

1. The 2002 unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. That was entirely Bin Laden and the Saudis.

2. The nations with ties to the USA don't exist any more.

3. ISIS came into existencein 2005 when W disbanded Saddam's army without disarming his soldiers. Their leaders alignied themselves with a fanatic offshoot of Al Qaeda to form ISIS.

1. 10-4.

2. What nation doesn't exist any more ?

3. I acknowledged that. Now you can acknowledge what I said about post 2011. (including my link)

 

[georgephillip]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

“The West Bank”, otherwise known as Judea.

Palestine.

Funny stuff...

The Palis' own propaganda maps highlight how successful Israel has been in accomplishing Eretz Yisrael... Go Team Israel !!!

Funny stuff...

The Palis' own propaganda maps highlight how successful Israel has been in accomplishing Eretz Yisrael... Go Team Israel !!!

Not unlike the heroic Zionists' collaborators in 1939 Poland.
Go team Trump.

"A commemorative medal struck by Nazi Germany to mark its Zionist alliance, with a Star-of-David on one side and a Swastika on the obverse. The importance of the Nazi-Zionist pact for Israel’s establishment is difficult to overstate. According to a 1974 analysis in Jewish Frontier, between 1933 and 1939 over 60% of all the investment in Jewish Palestine came from Nazi Germany.”

The history of Zionist collusion with Nazis

Do you CHUCKLE over Auschwitz?

 

[georgephillip]

Not to worry...

We're most of the way to Eretz Yisrael, already...

Muslim-Arabs already have their slice of the former Roman and Turkish province of Palestine...

Their slice is called "Jordan"...

As (what little is left of) the West Bank and Gaza continue to shrink, it won't be long now, until the old League of Nations partition plan of 1922 becomes reality.

The Arabs have shot themselves in the foot time and again and again...

The Palestinian-Arabs should have come to terms with Israel while they could; until the 1967-1973 time frame...

But... given that the Muslims attacked (or were mustering on the borders to attack) Israel three times... 1948... 1967... 1973...

Well... three strikes and you're out...

If there was a snowball's chance in hell that a deal could still be pulled off, the idiot Palestinians' Intifadas 1 and 2 finished that off...

Now, there's nothing more to do but sit back and watch Israel complete its finalizing of the 1922 partition...

Oh, and, by the way, America did not lend substantive support to Israel until after the 1967 War, and that was largely to offset Soviet supply of the Arabs...

But it was the Israelis themselves who kicked Muslim-Arab ass time and again, held back only by the prospect of American disapproval and a drying-up of supplies...

America didn't tear-apart the Middle East...

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

“The West Bank”, otherwise known as Judea.

Palestine.

Maybe they should stop starting wars.

Maybe they should stop starting wars.

Arabs in Palestine objected to illegal immigrants from Europe resorting to terrorism to steal their homes, businesses, and bank accounts. What would you have done in their place?

UK opens secret files on 1940s ‘Jewish terrorists’ in Palestine and beyond