How the U.S. Stole Mexico

[Zincwarrior]

I just disagree on using the term "Steal"

They took the land, after beating them in combat.

I understand. We disagree. Thats ok. If someone hits me with a rock and steals my wallet, they defeated me in combat, but also committed theft. But I am going to focus on the OP and must remark how my ancestors stole most of Texas fair and square not from Mexico, but from the Comanches.

There are no Comanches in Columbia! She's no comanche!

 

[martybegan]

I understand. We disagree. Thats ok. If someone hits me with a rock and steals my wallet, they defeated me in combat, but also committed theft. But I am going to focus on the OP and must remark how my ancestors stole most of Texas fair and square not from Mexico, but from the Comanches.

There are no Comanches in Columbia! She's no comanche!
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if they did it now and in the United States, they would be breaking the law.

If they did it back when Aztecs and the other tribes were fighting it out, it would be war.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The fact here is that most of them are relocating to a place that once belonged to them and was taken illegally.

It never belonged to them. The people it belonged to never left-well their descendants (unless they are immortal vampires of course).

The South Africans should not be here.

We have room. But if they bitch about queso or Spanish its their gringo asses!

 

[Tyrion234]

Where does HE live?

Moms basement, or some ghetto city collecting stamps and playing on the internet all day is my guess

 

[Mack The Finger]

Robbery is breaking a law, and at the time all this happened, there were no laws about war.

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Just the law of the jungle.

 

[Papageorgio]

The problem with the obsession with the southern border is the fact that America stole the land from Mexico. So what we have today is another example of how our past, fueled by racism, has created the problems we have today.

And Mexico took it from Spain and Spain took it from the Indians.

 

[hadit]

Mexico wasn't called Mexico, it was split up into several different regions by tribe. I am talking about what America did, which was based on racism. The racism started in Europe, where the first Racial classifications were made up in the 1700's.

" The concept of race is one of the most problematic legacies of the Enlightenment. Most existing historiography on this concept frames its subject by two discontinuities. At the beginning of the story, we have the invention of race by European naturalists and anthropologists, marked by the publication of the book Systema naturae in 1735, in which the Swedish naturalist Carl Linnaeus proposed a classification of humankind into four distinct races. At its end stands the demise of race as a viable biological concept after World War II in favor of population-genetic conceptions of human diversity, again prominently marked by the UNESCO Statement on Race issued in 1950."

Race and History: Comments from an Epistemological Point of View - PMC

The historiography of race is usually framed by two discontinuities: The invention of race by European naturalists and anthropologists, marked by Carl Linnaeus’s Systema naturae (1735); and the demise of racial typologies after WWII in favor of ...

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Of course, you only focus on what the white man did, because to acknowledge what the tribes did to each other and what the Europeans did is inconvenient. Mexico was founded by land theft if you want to be accurate, yet you only want to blame America for liberating Texas.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We might need another Mexican American war to make things interesting.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The Aztecs and other indgenus tribes are "Mexicans". England wasn't stolen by France. Germany wasn't stolen by Italy. Let's stop making excuses.

Ever hear of a Frenchman called “ William the Conqueror “? He stole England from the Saxons. You don’t have a very good grasp of real history. However you do have a very vivid imagination.

 

[westwall]

Ever hear of a Frenchman called “ William the Conqueror “? He stole England from the Saxons. You don’t have a very good grasp of real history. However you do have a very vivid imagination.

He was a Norman, not a Frenchman. BIG difference!

 

[AZrailwhale]

martybegan

The fact here is that most of them are relocating to a place that once belonged to them and was taken illegally. The South Africans should not be here.

The South Africans have a far better claim to political asylum than the faux asylum seekers from South and Central America and the Caribbean. You just hate the fact that they are white.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Where does HE live?

Kansas, an area stolen from various Plains Indian Tribes. Is he willing to give up his house or apartment as reparations for the theft?

 

[AZrailwhale]

He was a Norman, not a Frenchman. BIG difference!

A frog is a frog is a frog. When we invaded France, it was in Normandy, nobody says the invasion was to liberate Normandy after all.

 

[westwall]

A frog is a frog is a frog. When we invaded France, it was in Normandy, nobody says the invasion was to liberate Normandy after all.

Nope. The Normans are descended from Vikings. They are fighters still. Unlike the frogs.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Nope. The Normans are descended from Vikings. They are fighters still. Unlike the frogs.

They spoke French, they used French style armor, weapons and tactics. You might as well say I am a Comanche because my great grandmother was a Comanche despite me not speaking a work of Comanche or following the culture.

 

[Unkotare]

Come on, everyone knows who the Normans were:

 

[westwall]

They spoke French, they used French style armor, weapons and tactics. You might as well say I am a Comanche because my great grandmother was a Comanche despite me not speaking a work of Comanche or following the culture.

Actually they spoke "Norman French" which was a blend of old French and Norse. And they still have a low opinion of the French.

 

[BackAgain]

Texas won their independence from Mexico. Dumb ass.
Just like Mexico did with Spain.

Shhhhhh!

IQ2 prefers his reporting and f history to be based on something other than facts and reality.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Spain tried to get Mexicans to settle in Texas, but they wouldn't do it because the Indians would kill them.
So Spain gave land grants to American settlers.
Then Mexico had their revolution and kicked out Spain.
Then Texas had their revolution and kicked out Mexico.
Then Mexico kept fxcking with America, until they were taught a lesson.

We should have left the Apache in charge of the border.

 

[mikegriffith1]

The problem with the obsession with the southern border is the fact that America stole the land from Mexico. So what we have today is another example of how our past, fueled by racism, has created the problems we have today.

Ah, and there you have it, folks: According to the woke left, we have no right to secure our southern border because we supposedly "stole" so much land from Mexico when we allowed Texas to join the Union and in the Mexican Cession after the Mexican-American War!

The linked video, which I've deleted, is a pathetic woke revision of history. It says nothing about the tyrannical rule and lawlessness that prevailed in the areas that later became Texas and California. Nor does it explain how the "Mexicans" came to possess "Mexico" in the first place: they violently took it from the native peoples in wars that make the Mexican-American War look mild in comparison.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA480587.pdf

Introduction to the Mexican-American War | Religious Studies Center

“I believe it to be a war of pretexts, a war in which the true motive is not distinctly avowed, but in which pretenses, afterthoughts, evasions and other methods are employed to put a case before the community which is not the true case.”—Daniel Webster, September 1847

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The Mexican-American war in a nutshell | Constitution Center

May marks two key anniversaries in the conflict between the United States and Mexico in that set in motion the Civil War—and led to California, Texas, and eight other states joining the Union.

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