How the Tea Party is Killing the Republican Party

[insein]

Did I just read that?



oh it just KEEPS getting better and better ...

Please elaborate.
Will abortion ever get overturned?

Does gay marriage mean the end of the world?

Does pandering to the Democrats insistence that we all be segregated into race based voter blocs help this country in anyway?

These are the things holding Republicans back. They think that they have to answer these questions and enforce their views when they ultimately know that it means fuck all in the grand scheme of this country. The economy, defense and foreign relations are what a president deals with. The rest is window dressing for the simple minded. The democrats use those topics well to show how inept republicans are at answering them.

Politics is a sport just like any other. The stakes are merely higher. Democrats play to win and Republicans are playing not to lose right now.

Republicans put governing aside and made it their number one priority to beat Obama.

Forget governing wisely for the benefit of all Americans - just win an election. That's all that matters.

Their own words - not mine.

And yet, they aren't "playing to win" ???

The fact that you actually NEED elaboration is just plain sad.

I see Democrats touting the "beat Obama" crowd as the majority when in reality they were more like the "anbody but bush" crew in 2004. Did they represent the majority of Democrat voters? No they were a fringe group just as these people were. The media was all too happy to place the shining examples of the group front and center to label them as the typical Republican.

The Republican party did not play to win. Otherwise they never would have nominated Romney. He was the safe choice. He was the least disliked by the majority. He also represented the least of their ideals. So like McCain in 2008, he was the guy they put up to not lose the election for them. If they wanted to win on their ideals, they would have elected a guy like Newt Gingrich who has a track record of implementing conservative ideals and working with the opposition to improve America. They were too terrified of his baggage though. Afraid of losing. The problem that they fail to pick up on is that no matter who hey put up, the left will attempt to paint them as the most far right candidate since Goldwater. They could have run John Kerry (they basically did as Romney is a Rich, white guy from the NE) and he would have been labeled more right wing than Bush.

So the Republicans need to evaluate their gameplan and see how they want to play going forward. What they're are doing isn't working though.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Lower taxes and less govt intervention are certainly "radical" ideas to neo-communist "progressives................

Its all soooooooo exciteingly NEW !!!

Less government intervention?
Tell that to gay people who you're telling "the government won't allow you to marry"
Tell that to women who you are telling "the government must be the one to decide their procreative future."
Tell that to Latinos who you are telling that "the government doesn't want you here."

The words say one thing - the policies and actions say a completely different thing.

Of course words obviously trump actions for some folks. I'm just not one of them. Apparently there are more like me than like you. Huh, go figure.

LOL

Huh, and here everyone was thinking it was leftwing govt dupes who need to redefine the 6,000 year old tradition of marriage, leftwing govt dupes forcing taxpayers to cover some dimwiitted tramps contraception, and leftwing govt dupes demanding non existent "rights" for illegals..............

 

[nodoginnafight]

see Democrats touting the "beat Obama" crowd as the majority

It was John Bohner, Mitch McConnell, and the elected Repiublicans - who were by the way - elected to serve America NOT partisan political ambition.\
But they said it themselves - their #1 priority was just to beat Obama.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The Republican party did not play to win. Otherwise they never would have nominated Romney

Livinhg in "opposite world" I see.

They nominated a candidate they didn't even like because he was the one who had "the best chance to beat Obama."

Or did you sleep through that part of campaign season?

 

[insein]

Go ahead - keep trying to shove those "Rape is a gift from God" and "Preganancies don't happen in a 'legitimate' rape" boneheads down everyone's throat.

Keep calling yourselves people who favor smaller government while demanding government dictate who gives birth and who can get married.

Keep telling everyone the "War on Women" is a media-generated myth as you filibuster equal pay for women initiatives.

And keep losing

This is what I'm talking about. Abortion is a strawman. No politician will ever overturn Roe v Wade. I agree with you in that Republicans need to stop playing into the game. What your personal religious beliefs are does not matter when you goto office because this is not a theocracy. Laws have to be submitted, reviewed, approved, re reviewed, approved again and then signed before anything could ever be changed. Plus a supreme Court order can only be overturned by the Supreme Court themselves. Never going to happen. There is no one politician that could ever or will ever change Roe v Wade.

The very fact that the media can label a "War on women" and successfully confuse people into thinking that women will die if a Republican is elected sums up all that needs to be known on how bad the Republicans suck at this game right now.

 

[Oddball]

Vinnie Vitalis turned his back on the TEA Partiers, in order to serve his corporate neocon masters.

yeah, that's what happened ....
in oddball land

Who the hell do you think shut Rick Santorum and Ron Paul delegates completely out of the RNC, you fool?

 

[nodoginnafight]

41% of the electorate were moderates
You lost those voters by 15 points.
Going "more extreme" ain't gonna win any of them back.

Any Republican who isn't math-challenged knows it - the Tea Party is killing them.

 

[Oddball]

10 million fewer voters showed up at the polls this time around, compared to '08....Including a whopping 8 million fewer for your Boiking.

Amazing how myopic nincompoops like you just brush past that little fact, too.

 

[nodoginnafight]

The very fact that the media can label a "War on women"

The media didn't create an illusion. They reported the GOP positions.
The GOP wrote a platform plank of no-abortions, no exceptions.
The GOP filibustered equal pay for women in the Senate

and you're suprised you lost women by 10 points????

 

[Some Guy]

see Democrats touting the "beat Obama" crowd as the majority

It was John Bohner, Mitch McConnell, and the elected Repiublicans - who were by the way - elected to serve America NOT partisan political ambition.\
But they said it themselves - their #1 priority was just to beat Obama.

LINK

NJ: What’s the job?

McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

It continues...??

NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

NJ: What are the big issues?

McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

 

[nodoginnafight]

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


The Guest List:
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

 

[Some Guy]

The GOP filibustered equal pay for women in the Senate

LINK. NY Times, even! Unbiased source for ya!

But the bill isn’t as commonsensical as it might seem. It overlooks mountains of research showing that discrimination plays little role in pay disparities between men and women, and it threatens to impose onerous requirements on employers to correct gaps over which they have little control.

The bill is based on the premise that the 1963 Equal Pay Act, which bans sex discrimination in the workplace, has failed; for proof, proponents point out that for every dollar men earn, women earn just 77 cents.

But that wage gap isn’t necessarily the result of discrimination. On the contrary, there are lots of other reasons men might earn more than women, including differences in education, experience and job tenure.

When these factors are taken into account the gap narrows considerably — in some studies, to the point of vanishing. A recent survey found that young, childless, single urban women earn 8 percent more than their male counterparts, mostly because more of them earn college degrees.

The bill’s language regarding these “lingering effects” is vague, but that’s the problem: it could prove a legal nightmare for even the best-intentioned employers. The theory will be elaborated in feminist expert testimony when cases go to trial, and it’s not hard to imagine a media firestorm developing from it. Faced with multimillion-dollar lawsuits and the attendant publicity, many innocent employers would choose to settle.

The Paycheck Fairness bill would set women against men, empower trial lawyers and activists, perpetuate falsehoods about the status of women in the workplace and create havoc in a precarious job market. It is 1970s-style gender-war feminism for a society that should be celebrating its success in substantially, if not yet completely, overcoming sex-based workplace discrimination.

 

[Some Guy]

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


The Guest List:
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

I applaud your uncanny ability to not link to where you got this from. Bravo.

 

[nodoginnafight]

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


The Guest List:
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

I applaud your uncanny ability to not link to where you got this from. Bravo.

Thought you could read English ... my bad.

 

[jillian]

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


The Guest List:
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

I applaud your uncanny ability to not link to where you got this from. Bravo.

\

see bold

 

[Katzndogz]

Did I just read that?



oh it just KEEPS getting better and better ...

Please elaborate.
Will abortion ever get overturned?

Does gay marriage mean the end of the world?

Does pandering to the Democrats insistence that we all be segregated into race based voter blocs help this country in anyway?

These are the things holding Republicans back. They think that they have to answer these questions and enforce their views when they ultimately know that it means fuck all in the grand scheme of this country. The economy, defense and foreign relations are what a president deals with. The rest is window dressing for the simple minded. The democrats use those topics well to show how inept republicans are at answering them.

Politics is a sport just like any other. The stakes are merely higher. Democrats play to win and Republicans are playing not to lose right now.

Republicans put governing aside and made it their number one priority to beat Obama.

Forget governing wisely for the benefit of all Americans - just win an election. That's all that matters.

Their own words - not mine.

And yet, they aren't "playing to win" ???

The fact that you actually NEED elaboration is just plain sad.

There's no such thing as governing all Americans anymore. The nation has voted to divide. There are those who want more free stuff who are parasites on the backs of those who work. You can't govern leeches unless you promise more free stuff and you can't govern industrious people by promising to remove the fruits of that industry. The two are diametrically opposed with no common interest.

 

[jillian]

The GOP filibustered equal pay for women in the Senate

LINK. NY Times, even! Unbiased source for ya!

rightwinger op ed, genius.

opinion piece...get it... OPINION...from a rightie.

you confuse easily, don't you?

 

[jillian]

Please elaborate.
Will abortion ever get overturned?

Does gay marriage mean the end of the world?

Does pandering to the Democrats insistence that we all be segregated into race based voter blocs help this country in anyway?

These are the things holding Republicans back. They think that they have to answer these questions and enforce their views when they ultimately know that it means fuck all in the grand scheme of this country. The economy, defense and foreign relations are what a president deals with. The rest is window dressing for the simple minded. The democrats use those topics well to show how inept republicans are at answering them.

Politics is a sport just like any other. The stakes are merely higher. Democrats play to win and Republicans are playing not to lose right now.

Republicans put governing aside and made it their number one priority to beat Obama.

Forget governing wisely for the benefit of all Americans - just win an election. That's all that matters.

Their own words - not mine.

And yet, they aren't "playing to win" ???

The fact that you actually NEED elaboration is just plain sad.

There's no such thing as governing all Americans anymore. The nation has voted to divide. There are those who want more free stuff who are parasites on the backs of those who work. You can't govern leeches unless you promise more free stuff and you can't govern industrious people by promising to remove the fruits of that industry. The two are diametrically opposed with no common interest.

moron.

 

[Some Guy]

Thought you could read English ... my bad.

This is clearly someone interpreting an account Robert Draper makes in his book, not Draper's own words.

When i look it up on Wikipedia, i get this:

Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives is a 2012 book by author Robert Draper and published by Free Press. It details the activities of Republicans and Democrats in the United States House of Representatives and the Senate during the presidency of Barack Obama.

No mention of a meeting designed on how to sabotoge the economny.

When i look on Draper's page on Wikipedia, i found this about the book:

In April, 2012 Draper published Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives, which the Huffington Post described as "much-discussed and heavily-reported."[3] Writing in the Wall Street Journal, ABC News senior political correspondent Jonathan Karl called the book "vivid...a correspondent for GQ and a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine, Mr. Draper embedded himself in the House in 2011, getting to know the key players—newcomers and old-timers alike. In his group portrait, he doesn't make any sweeping judgments about who is to blame for the failure of this Congress to address the country's long-term problems. But his refreshingly balanced account captures the drama of one of Congress's most combative and maddeningly frustrating years in memory."

So clearly, you got your commentary on what's in his book from somewhere else.

 

[Oddball]

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


The Guest List:
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.