How people are leaving MAGA

[Hafar1014]

prove me wrong chump....

The trend of millions of residents moving from Democratic-led "blue" states to Republican-led "red" states is a documented demographic shift that has accelerated since 2020. Data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the IRS show that while this migration has been building for decades, recent years have seen record-level domestic outflows from major Democratic hubs.
The Heritage Foundation +1

Key Migration Statistics

• Total Outflow: Since 2020, the five states with the highest net domestic migration losses—
  California
  ,
  New York
  ,
  Illinois
  ,
  New Jersey
  , and
  Massachusetts
  —have seen a cumulative net loss of approximately 3.7 million residents.
• Top Departing States (2024):
  • California
    : Largest net loss, with roughly 240,000 residents leaving.
  • New York
    : Second-highest net loss at approximately 121,000 people.
  • Illinois
    : Followed with a net loss of 56,000.
• Long-term Trend: Between 1990 and 2021, an estimated 13 million people moved from these same five blue states to states like
  Florida
  ,
  Texas
  , and
  North Carolina
  .
  The Heritage Foundation +2

Top Destination States
The primary recipients of this migration are states in the South and West, often cited for their business-friendly environments:

• Florida
  &
  Texas
  : These states consistently lead in net migration gains, with
  Florida
  recently gaining massive amounts of personal income due to the influx.
• The Southeast: This region has become a dominant economic force, attracting businesses and high-income taxpayers from high-tax states.
  The Liberal Patriot +2

Primary Drivers for Leaving
Researchers and policy groups identify several consistent factors driving residents away from Democratic strongholds:

• Cost of Living & Housing: High housing costs and lack of affordable inventory are major deterrents, particularly in
  California
  .
• Tax Burdens: Many residents are "voting with their feet" to escape high state income taxes, moving to states with no income tax like
  Texas
  ,
  Florida
  , and
  Tennessee
  .
• Quality of Life: Concerns over rising crime, homelessness, and "progressive policies" that some find unlivable are frequently cited by those departing.
• Remote Work: The rise of remote work has allowed employees to leave expensive metro areas for smaller, more affordable markets.
  Public Policy Institute of California +6

Political and Economic Impact

• Electoral Shifts: Sustained migration is expected to shift Congressional seats and Electoral College votes toward Republican-leaning states following the 2030 Census.
• Wealth Migration: States like
  New York
  and
  California
  are experiencing substantial losses in personal income and tax revenue as high-income earners relocate.
• "Purple" Potential: Some analysts note that as blue-state residents move to red states, they may bring their political leanings with them, potentially making those destination states more politically competitive.
  The New York Times +5

 

[knuckles]

Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.

 

[berg80]

Naw, next time Americans think the election was rigged

Next time? To be clear, a majority of Americans have never believed the 2020 election was rigged. Only the most diehard trump followers have. Cuz.........cult, not evidence.

 

[Mac1958]

Next time? To be clear, a majority of Americans have never believed the 2020 election was rigged. Only the most diehard trump followers have. Cuz.........cult, not evidence.

Well, in fairness, I'm sure dozens of indictments will be flowing from the crack staff over at the DOJ any time now.

They have nothing holding them back from exposing "the truth", so no doubt they're all over it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

He did about 10 years ago but he always voted for the left. He even pretended like he would never vote for Hillary and then did anyway, he had some silly reason of why. He is a pretender, he pretends he is objective and fair, yet he fails all the time. I called him out on his BS all the time and he didn’t like me calling him out on his lies and hypocrisy. More proof he is a far left TDS liar. He claims he blocked me yet in threads he will respond to my takes without directly engaging me, more of his little games he plays on this board. He is a coward, he is chicken when it comes to honesty.

he does what IM2 does....ignores those who disagree with them....

 

[Papageorgio]

While we'll disagree about ideology, I think that Independents and Libertarian-leaning voters share a healthy skepticism about the two "major" parties and the system.

For the record, I voted for Harry Browne twice back in the day. I always thought he was the most consistent of the candidates.

And there you go Harry Dresden , see he answered me without tagging, he does it often though he claims I am on ignore. A real piece of work. These TDS guys can’t help themselves.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And there you go Harry Dresden , see he answered me without tagging, he does it often though he claims I am on ignore. A real piece of work. These TDS guys can’t help themselves.

well if you notice mac only replies to those who agree with him....and that is usually his new party buds...

 

[XponentialChaos]

Just didn't have the balls to admit that what I said was completely correct.

You asked. I answered truthfully. If you don’t like the answer, then that’s your problem.

 

[XponentialChaos]

For violent criminals? Of course not. Get them out of here.

You are lying. We saw what leftards would do with illegals, when you were in power. That is why we keep finding illegals with dozens of arrestes and never deported.

You are a vile liar.

You ask me a question and then accuse me of lying when I answer honestly.

Why would I want violent criminals to be here? That’s stupid and you need to re-evaluate how ridiculous you’ve become.

 

[jacksonlamb]

What actually happened in March:​

• Total payrolls: +178,000
• Federal government jobs: –18,000 (continued decline)
• Private‑sector hiring (ADP estimate): +62,000

So the idea that there were 178,000 private‑sector jobs “over and above” government firings or deportations is not supported by the data.

• The 178,000 is the headline BLS number for all jobs added.
• The private‑sector portion (based on ADP’s independent payroll data) was 62,000.
• Government employment fell, which means the private‑sector contribution to the 178,000 total was larger than it would have been otherwise — but it was not 178,000 by itself.
• Private‑sector jobs added: ~62,000
• Government jobs lost: 18,000

Lace your boots correctly, Hafar.

 

[jacksonlamb]

You ask me a question and then accuse me of lying when I answer honestly.

Why would I want violent criminals to be here? That’s stupid and you need to re-evaluate how ridiculous you’ve become.

This is what Correll does when he is caught out being wrong.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Do you have any evidence of that?

.

Of course not. The left cult never has, nor do they ever need "evidence". They make the news up as they go along.

.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Of course not. The left cult never has, nor do they ever need "evidence". They make the news up as they go along.

gaslighting

 

[jacksonlamb]

Of course not. The left cult never has, nor do they ever need "evidence". They make the news up as they go along.

So, Timmy, you are condemning yourself.

 

[jacksonlamb]

OhPleaseJustQuit is going to bust a gasket if he keeps this up.

 

[theHawk]

Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.

I hate to break it to ya, but the Trump supporters who are somewhat disappointed actually want a more hardcore right Agenda and execution of it.

None of these people are running to the Democrat Party.

 

[Mac1958]

None of these people are running to the Democrat Party.

I haven't said that they were. Nor have I inferred it.

I know this is complicated for you.

Sorry.

 

[Papageorgio]

I haven't said that they were. Nor have I inferred it.

I know this is complicated for you.

Sorry.

What a condescending asshole, you have no answers pretend you do and if anyone challenges you, you go straight to insulting other’s intelligence.

 

[theHawk]

I haven't said that they were. Nor have I inferred it.

I know this is complicated for you.

Sorry.

They aren’t running towards RINOs either, or third party quacks.

So you shouldn’t get your hopes up.

 

[Rawley]

What a condescending asshole, you have no answers pretend you do and if anyone challenges you, you go straight to insulting other’s intelligence.

That's the way he rolls. I so thoroughly kicked his ass yesterday, I believe I earned a place on his iggy list.