How much have U.S. farmers been affected by illegal immigrants being deported?

[g5000]

That doesn’t make it legal or legit. Trump doesn’t need to offer a plan to promote legal entry of migrant workers. They can do that now.

False.

We have a quota system. The number of legal immigrants allowed is limited.

That's why farmers have to hire illegals. The quota system does not provide enough legal labor supply to meet the labor demand.

 

[g5000]

You feel they should be hurt but they still have some kegals and provides economic opportunity to those who Are Not illegal.

Every single time there has been an illegal immigrant crackdown, food rots in the fields.

Because, I say again, there is a quota for how many legals are allowed, and it isn't anywhere near enough.

 

[g5000]

Seasonal workers can always get a seasonal work visa. Legally. Seasonal work is legal.

In 2019, about 258,000 immigrant workers were granted temporary H-2A visas, up from 48,000 positions certified in 2005, but less than 4% of the total number of workers that are needed for food production.

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Additionally, farmers say utilizing the H-2A system is an expensive, slow process. On average, workers arrive to pick crops 22 days late. Farmers in year-round sectors like dairy or pork production cannot even participate because visas are only available for seasonal workers.

Immigrant Farmworkers and America's Food Production - 5 Things to Know

Modernizing the temporary visa program, and establishing a pathway to citizenship for long-term undocumented agricultural workers, is urgently needed to protect America’s agriculture industry and farmworkers alike.

www.fwd.us

 

[Luckyone]

You feel they should be hurt but they still have some kegals and provides economic opportunity to those who Are Not illegal.

Can you prove that those legal immigrants are not getting those jobs because illegals are getting them?

Farmers are saying that they can't find ANYONE that wants to do the job! See the video

 

[marvin martian]

Can you prove that those legal immigrants are not getting those jobs because illegals are getting them?

Farmers are saying that they can't find ANYONE that wants to do the job! See the video

They need to pay better, so it's not just your slaves doing the work.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems want to put illegals back in chains, shocker there.

 

[22lcidw]

40% of the migrants working in agriculture are illegal.

Has Trump offered any plan that will allow more migrants to come legally?

Stop giving any benefit of any kind to an illegal. Nada. No cash, no nothing. You volunteer to pay for it if you want. One of the things about this Republic you spiel every time your Constitutional ramblings are spewed is about taxation. The reason for the Revolutionary War. We will not go to that period of time again. Yet you have no concern how high taxes go. We are in a difficult situation.

 

[Winco]

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OH, NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There goes all our slaves!




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So all the roof layers, construction workers, field workers, hotel staff.

You think of them as Slaves.

 

[marvin martian]

So all the roof layers, construction workers, field workers, hotel staff.

You think of them as Slaves.

No, YOU think of them as slaves, because you want them to continue to be denied equal status.

 

[WEATHER53]

Can you prove that those legal immigrants are not getting those jobs because illegals are getting them?

Farmers are saying that they can't find ANYONE that wants to do the job! See the video

You would need to prove your contention
You guys are mostly selling that farms Depend on illegal workers. Industrious American farmers would not do that.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

So all the roof layers, construction workers, field workers, hotel staff.

You think of them as Slaves.

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See post #29. I can't say it better than that.

I'll add to that, the fact that if I had an American business, I would never hire a criminal.




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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Stop giving any benefit of any kind to an illegal. Nada. No cash, no nothing. You volunteer to pay for it if you want. One of the things about this Republic you spiel every time your Constitutional ramblings are spewed is about taxation. The reason for the Revolutionary War. We will not go to that period of time again. Yet you have no concern how high taxes go. We are in a difficult situation.

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It's hilarious that they keep trying to prove to us that Venezuelans, Hondurans, Chinese and other nationals have constitutional rights in America.

The US Constitution was written for Americans, period.


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[Winco]

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See post #29. I can't say it better than that.

I'll add to that, the fact that if I had an American business, I would never hire a criminal.




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It's YOU that said they were slaves. See post #11 and #17. Don't speak for others. Speak for yourself.


I never thought of these hard workers as slaves.
But you said so.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's YOU that said they were slaves. See post #11 and #17. Don't speak for others. Speak for yourself.


I never thought of these hard workers as slaves.
But you said so.

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Thanks for sharing that opinion.




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[Winco]

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Thanks for sharing that opinion.




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Your words.
Not an opinion.

Own them.

 

[tahuyaman]

False.

We have a quota system. The number of legal immigrants allowed is limited.

That's why farmers have to hire illegals. The quota system does not provide enough legal labor supply to meet the labor demand.

Migrant workers can still come here legally for legit purposes. They can come here in sufficient numbers.

Farmers hire illegals because they are cheaper.

Farmers or businesses who hire illegal aliens should be prosecuted and fined heavily.

 

[Papageorgio]

AI Overview
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Impact of Deportation on U.S. Farmers and the Agricultural Sector:
The deportation of undocumented immigrants has significantly impacted U.S. farmers and the agricultural sector due to the sector's heavy reliance on immigrant labor.

Here's a breakdown of the key effects:

1. Labor Shortages and Workforce Disruption:

• Significant portion of farmworkers are undocumented: Roughly 40% of crop farmworkers in the U.S. are estimated to be undocumented, according to the Department of Agriculture.
• Mass deportations could severely deplete the agricultural workforce: This could lead to significant disruptions in planting, harvesting, and other essential farm operations.
• Farmers struggle to find replacements: Many farmers find it challenging to attract domestic workers to fill these physically demanding and often low-paying jobs.

2. Economic Impacts on Farms and Consumers:

• Increased labor costs: With a reduced workforce, farmers may face increased competition for available labor, potentially driving up wages.
• Reduced domestic production: Labor shortages could lead to reduced planting and harvesting, potentially impacting the overall quantity of domestically grown crops.
• Higher food prices: Labor shortages and reduced domestic production could lead to higher food prices for consumers.
• Potential shift towards increased imports: Farmers might need to rely more on imported produce to meet demand, potentially weakening the domestic agricultural market.

3. Operational and Logistical Challenges:

• Difficulty in meeting seasonal labor needs: Many farms, especially those producing labor-intensive crops like fruits and vegetables, rely on a seasonal workforce to meet their harvest demands.
• Challenges in adapting to new immigration policies: Farms may need to invest time and resources in adapting to changes in immigration enforcement and regulations.

4. Psychological and Social Impacts on Farmworkers:

• Fear and anxiety among immigrant workers: The threat of deportation can create significant fear and stress among farmworkers and their families.
• Potential for exploitation: A climate of fear and uncertainty could potentially make some workers more vulnerable to exploitation by employers.

In summary: The deportation of undocumented immigrants presents significant challenges to U.S. farmers, impacting their ability to maintain a reliable workforce, manage costs, and sustain domestic agricultural production.



This is something that Trump has not truly addressed or offered a solution for. He is deporting illegal aliens but not giving the farmers a "doable" option. Yes, getting rid of illegal aliens is a good thing but when you hurt Americans in the process, the good diminishes and in many occasions means that more harm than good is done.

Where did AI come up with 40%?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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[initforme]

Why does anyone need to actually pick crops? Don't they use machines to do that? Or hire american workers for alot higher wages than visa workers.

 

[tahuyaman]

Every single time there has been an illegal immigrant crackdown, food rots in the fields….

That’s not true.