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How so? If the goal is to replace internal combustion engines which run on gasoline and diesel with battery operated vehicles, don't you need to have enough battery capacity to store one day's worth of gasoline and diesel use? And can't the storage medium requirement be easily calculated?Clearly the difference between the fuel and the storage medium is still beyond you.
Calm down, ma'am, I understand that facing the reality that your Utopian vision of replacing all internal combustion engines with battery operated vehicles isn't practical has traumatized you. But you need to calm down.Please, I'm BEGGING you stop making EVERY THREAD ABOUT MY JUNK. I'm getting a bit skeeved out by you. I actually would like to talk to you about technology but you can't get beyond your single talking points and your OBSESSION WITH MY GENITALS. MAKE IT STOP! What is wrong with you? Seriously? Why are you so creepy?
Why, do you need a dictionary?Do you actually know the meaning of any of the words you use?
300 miles on a full charge.
How so? If the goal is to replace internal combustion engines which run on gasoline and diesel with battery operated vehicles, don't you need to have enough battery capacity to store one day's worth of gasoline and diesel use? And can't the storage medium requirement be easily calculated?
It seems that you are the one who doesn't understand storage medium.
Why, do you need a dictionary?
300 miles is less than 1/2 day of driving.
How far does a semi EV go?
Greenie pipe dreams are so funny. Proggys are funny enough but you greenies are the best!
Scratch a greenie & you find commie red
And again you have failed to answer the questions about how your pipe dreams are feasible & how to address the real environmental damage.
Calm down, ma'am, I understand that facing the reality that your Utopian vision of replacing all internal combustion engines with battery operated vehicles isn't practical has traumatized you. But you need to calm down.
How so? If the goal is to replace internal combustion engines which run on gasoline and diesel with battery operated vehicles, don't you need to have enough battery capacity to store one day's worth of gasoline and diesel use? And can't the storage medium requirement be easily calculated?
It seems that you are the one who doesn't understand storage medium.
That's nice. Are you disputing the math that it takes 17 trillion kg of lithium to manufacture enough batteries to hold a charge of 110.7 tWh? Or are you disputing that the world consumes 65.1 million barrels of gasoline and diesel per day? Or are you disputing that you don't need enough battery storage to replace one day's of gasoline and diesel use? Or are you disputing that 110.7 tWh of electricity isn't the energy equivalent to 65.1 million barrels of oil?It isn't that simple. You really should know that. A battery is like the gas tank in your car. The gas tank isn't the fuel for the car.
The gas tank can be refilled. If you have an 11gal tank and you get 20 mpg then you get 220 miles on a full tank (or "full charge") if you will.
My battery (like the gas tank) can hold sufficient energy storage to get me 300 miles on a full charge.
The thing you keep bouncing around is the energy density of the gasoline and the EV battery. But even there you are being short-sighted. EV battery volumetric energy densities have been INCREASING!
FOTW #1234, April 18, 2022: Volumetric Energy Density of Lithium-ion Batteries Increased by More than Eight Times Between 2008 and 2020
Volumetric energy density refers to the amount of energy that can be contained within a given volume.www.energy.gov
Is gasoline getting to be more energy dense over time? I don't think so. You can only burn it so efficiently.
As I understand it gasoline has about 46MJ/kg which roughly works out to 322MJ/L. A "Liter volume" of Li ion battery has about 0.2MJ/L. No one is really going to argue over the fact that gasoline is a more energy rich source than a similar volume of Li ion battery.
But the difference is:
1. You can only burn that gas once. The Li ion battery is RECHARGABLE. And that recharge can happen through GREEN TECHNOLOGY. I live it every single day. I charge on solar and drive for free. 3 years now.
2. Li ion batteries are getting to be HIGHER volumetric energy storage. Gasoline is NOT. It is at its limit.
This is how technology develops. It doesn't stay static just because you got too old to understand how the world changes.
LOL.
Says the guy who can't differentiate the gasoline in his car from the gas tank.
LOL.
It is and it isn't. If it were a one time, yes. But this needs to be done every 7 to 10 years. And then there is the growth rate to consider. Which could lead to a doubling in a surprisingly short amount of time.8 cubic miles of water is trivial ...
You're the only one who keeps bring up your womanhood.PLEASE I'm begging you....leave my genitals out of this thread!!!
PLEASE STOP! PLEASE!
Just once can we have a discussion without you commenting on my gender/sexuality/genitals?
Just once?
8 cubic miles of water is trivial ... compared to the 320,000,000 cubic miles of water on the Earth's surface ... that doesn't include the waters of hydration ... so let's call it a billion cubic miles ... every one of which can be used over and over and over again ... same with lithium, once the battery is no good anymore, we can just make a new battery out of the lithium ...
There's no nuclear reactions in an EV ... what kind of stupid moron thinks there is? ...
The flaw in the OP is requiring complete replacement of piston-engine vehicles ... we only have to replace 10% maximum of passenger vehicles, the other 90% will be removed ... semi-trucks and locomotives are all efficient, and this energy use can be greatly reduced by just purchasing locally produced goods ... the only problem with growing your own potatoes is when you decide to not grow potatoes, that's always disappointing ha ha ha ha ha ...
We don't dig for lithium ... 6,000 years is plenty of time for all the lithium to float up to the surface of Earth ... we simply scrape it off the top of these dry lake beds around the world ... no big deal ... God's reason for Noah's Flood ...
The better question is "are lithium batteries SAFE" ... we found out the hard way that packing lithium batteries in next to dynamite is dangerous ... all those cell phones that blew up a few years ago ... and we're still seeing jet airliners catch fire from the same cause ... ask your local firefighter what they think of EVs involved in accidents ... hoot-n-nanny ... it's enough to make a sailor cross his legs ... "put out that dynamite fire will ya?" ...
If we're burning coal to make the electricity ... how does the OP think we're saving on carbon pollution? ... it's like getting dirt on your Easter dress while your foot is stuck in a Fire Ant colony ... kinda sorta missing what's important ...
Girls + dresses + ground hornets = dancin' fools ... funnier than hell ...
Again... If the goal is to replace internal combustion engines which run on gasoline and diesel with battery operated vehicles, don't you need to have enough battery capacity to store one day's worth of gasoline and diesel use? And can't the storage medium requirement be easily calculated?LOL.
Says the guy who can't differentiate the gasoline in his car from the gas tank.
LOL.
Incorrect. The Utopian vision is for a fossil fuel free world. I am calculating the requirement for that.The flaw in the OP is requiring complete replacement of piston-engine vehicles
To replace the energy equivalence of 65 million barrels of oil per day requires 17 trillion kg of lithium metal. Current lithium production is 100,000 metric tons per year. That's not going to cut it.We don't dig for lithium ... 6,000 years is plenty of time for all the lithium to float up to the surface of Earth ... we simply scrape it off the top of these dry lake beds around the world ... no big deal ... God's reason for Noah's Flood ...
The OP doesn't address that. That would be the subject of a future OP.If we're burning coal to make the electricity ... how does the OP think we're saving on carbon pollution?
You think that all that water is easy access for Lithium mining that are often hundreds of miles inland?
Run out of arguments? That's rich.FOR WHOM????
Kelly Blue Book puts the average American mileage per day at about 40 miles.
Why not ask about a military tank? Why does EVERYTHING need to happen overnight with you folks? None of the technologies you mention sprang to live overnight.
And when you run out of stupid arguments you bring up "communism". How boring.
If you have never developed anything of value you wouldn't know.
The world needs more fossil fuels, not less.Sure ... as long as you think it's environmentally sound to burn as much coal as we have to in order to power these EVs ...
