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So green energy is a viable replacement because you drive a Prius & have a few solar panels? Get back to me when that's multiplied by billionsIf you say so. I haven't bought gasoline in about 3 years, I charge for free on my solar unit at home, so I've been driving for free for several years now. I guess I'm an idiot.
When folks like me put a solar PV system on our house and generate power BACK TO THE GRID we are often told that the utility company is being cheated somehow by getting energy from us. They want to get it for FREE from us.
But more to your point: the whole point of our efforts is to help DEVELOP the replacement for fossil fuels. There are green energy systems out there. They need to scale.
Li is NOT a rare earth mineral. You are thinking of Ce, La, Nd and Yt.
You don't think there's any exotic metals in your ICE vehicle? LOL. You would be VERY wrong. The rhodium in your catalytic convertor is a great example. But there's also a ton of electronics in your car which also use a variety of interesting metals.
If you destroy the groundwater, no amount of recycling will help you.
Again, Li is NOT a rare earth mineral.
That was my point. All new tech has to scale at some point. You can't take a new technology at its inception and assume it will have the economy of scale that petroleum and fossil fuels have gotten due to a century or more of development.So green energy is a viable replacement because you drive a Prius & have a few solar panels? Get back to me when that's multiplied by billions
The rare earth mining & extraction required to replace internal combustion engines would be an environmental catastrophe
Back at ya proggy.
The coming ice age turned to global warming & repeated that pattern since at least the late 1800's.
They finally clued in and morphed to the new climate change hysteria so any weather event could be politicized.
You low info rubes eat any slop they put in front of you, no matter how often they change it or how bad it smells.
Good luck with that
Where did I say that? Regardless of Li, the necessary rare earth mining would be devastating but the real point is, it's all a pipe dream.That was my point. All new tech has to scale at some point. You can't take a new technology at its inception and assume it will have the economy of scale that petroleum and fossil fuels have gotten due to a century or more of development.
You act as if there's none of these things in your ICE vehicle. Which is a mystery. (And, again, can't stress this enough, Li is NOT a rare earth. While I understand other rare earths will go into Li batteries...you are already enjoying those things as well. So don't act like you REALLY care about an environmental catastrophe if you are already enjoying the benefits of that!)
Progress takes time. Progress takes work. Progress takes innovation. Progress costs money.Where did I say that? Regardless of Li, the necessary rare earth mining would be devastating but the real point is, it's all a pipe dream.
They will never be able to replace internal combustion engines or energy generation with green energy without a tremendous technological leap ahead.
I see Prius's here, too. Usually with a driver alone & wearing a mask.
Always makes me laugh
Back at ya proggy.
The coming ice age turned to global warming & repeated that pattern since at least the late 1800's.
They finally clued in and morphed to the new climate change hysteria so any weather event could be politicized.
You low info rubes eat any slop they put in front of you, no matter how often they change it or how bad it smells.
Good luck with that
I've got time!The current rate of mining lithium is 100,000 metric tons. The amount of lithium needed to replace all internal combustion engines is 17,712,640 metric tons. So the number of years to mine enough lithium to replace all internal combustion engines is 177 years (17,712,640 metric tons divided by 100,000 metric tons per year).
Annual Lithium Mining Production
Global lithium production 2022 | Statista
Lithium mines produced an estimated global total of 130,000 metric tons in 2022, a peak in production.www.statista.com
The amount of lithium needed to replace all internal combustion engines in the world
Any questions?
You sound like the poster child for progressive lunacy.Progress takes time. Progress takes work. Progress takes innovation. Progress costs money.
Naysayers like you are dinosaurs, and you're shrieking and wailing whilst sinking in a tar pit.
Progress marches on.
Progress isn't the problem. The math is.Progress takes time. Progress takes work. Progress takes innovation. Progress costs money.
Naysayers like you are dinosaurs, and you're shrieking and wailing whilst sinking in a tar pit.
Progress marches on.
No one here believes anything of the sort.Also noted in the citation was the idea of recycling which has been happening at one company since the early 1990's.
Sounds to me like an area of development.
I'm genuinely curious why so many folks on here seem to understand technology exists but have no clue that technology has to be DEVELOPED. Maybe you think all the tech you use today has always existed and was always as cheap as it is today.
You should really read more history of technology.
As it turns out, "environmentalists" don't actually give a shit about the environment.So green energy is a viable replacement because you drive a Prius & have a few solar panels? Get back to me when that's multiplied by billions
The rare earth mining & extraction required to replace internal combustion engines would be an environmental catastrophe
Where did I say that? Regardless of Li, the necessary rare earth mining would be devastating but the real point is, it's all a pipe dream.
They will never be able to replace internal combustion engines or energy generation with green energy without a tremendous technological leap ahead.
I see Prius's here, too. Usually with a driver alone & wearing a mask.
Always makes me laugh
No one here believes anything of the sort.
Meanwhile, leftists want to do away with fossil fuels before the alternatives are economic, scalable, and efficient.
Leftists are short-sighted.
Having to mine 177 times the current lithium annual mining rate and do that every 7 years can't be done economically or environmentally.No one here believes anything of the sort.
Meanwhile, leftists want to do away with fossil fuels before the alternatives are economic, scalable, and efficient.
Leftists are short-sighted.
Back at ya dude. You, your hysterical green energy pipe dreams & lack of reading comprehension I find quite amusing.And, again, you act as if you aren't already using a bunch of those same rare earth elements. Perhaps you are just ignorant on the topic.
You know nothing. I don't drive a Prius.
Your ignorance makes others laugh, too
I need me a butchyboy.Progress isn't the problem, "progressives" are.
Having to mine 177 times the current lithium annual mining rate and do that every 7 years can't be done economically or environmentally.
Back at ya dude. You, your hysterical green energy pipe dreams & lack of reading comprehension I find quite amusing.
Sad because you obviously believe your own drivel, but funny nonetheless.
Where did I say we don't already mine rare earth elements?
That's a stupid strawman argument to deflect from the fact we will not be replacing fossil fuels with your greenie delusional crap & to do so will cause environmental harms.
Neither ignorance nor an EV will take you far in life proggy
Because I haven't added in the growth rate for future demand?Why so limited in your view?
