How many people have to die before the country stops humoring feminists?

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Last week, a defendant in a rape case, Brian Nichols, wrested a gun from a female deputy in an Atlanta courthouse and went on a murderous rampage. Liberals have proffered every possible explanation for this breakdown in security except the giant elephant in the room – who undoubtedly has an eating disorder and would appreciate a little support vis-à-vis her negative body image.

The New York Times said the problem was not enough government spending on courthouse security ("Budgets Can Affect Safety Inside Many Courthouses"). Yes, it was tax-cuts-for-the-rich that somehow enabled a 200-pound former linebacker to take a gun from a 5-foot-tall grandmother.

Atlanta court officials dispensed with any spending issues the next time Nichols entered the courtroom when he was escorted by 17 guards and two police helicopters. He looked like P. Diddy showing up for a casual dinner party.

I think I have an idea that would save money and lives: Have large men escort violent criminals. Admittedly, this approach would risk another wave of nausea and vomiting by female professors at Harvard. But there are also advantages to not pretending women are as strong as men, such as fewer dead people. Even a female math professor at Harvard should be able to run the numbers on this one.

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In addition to accidentally shooting people, female law enforcement officers are also more likely to be assaulted than male officers – as the whole country saw in Atlanta last week. Lott says: "Increasing the number of female officers by 1 percentage point appears to increase the number of assaults on police by 15 percent to 19 percent."

In addition to the obvious explanations for why female cops are more likely to be assaulted and to accidentally shoot people – such as that our society encourages girls to play with dolls – there is also the fact that women are smaller and weaker than men.

In a study of public-safety officers – not even the general population – female officers were found to have 32 percent to 56 percent less upper body strength and 18 percent to 45 percent less lower body strength than male officers – although their outfits were 43 percent more coordinated. (Here's the cite! Frank J. Landy, "Alternatives to Chronological Age in Determining Standards of Suitability for Public Safety Jobs," Technical Report, Vol. 1, Jan. 31, 1992.)

Another study I've devised involves asking a woman to open a jar of pickles.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20050317.shtml
 
some of the best riflemen I ever trained in the USMC were women.

I see this as one more step to declaring coulter insane.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
some of the best riflemen I ever trained in the USMC were women.

I see this as one more step to declaring coulter insane.

Coulter..The New York Times said the problem was not enough government spending on courthouse security ("Budgets Can Affect Safety Inside Many Courthouses"). Yes, it was tax-cuts-for-the-rich that somehow enabled a 200-pound former linebacker to take a gun from a 5-foot-tall grandmother.

Makes sense to me. Yes women are good with rifles and guns, in this case however one small woman up against a large muscular man is no real match is it?? That's really her point.
 
Bonnie said:
Makes sense to me. Yes women are good with rifles and guns, in this case however one small woman up against a large muscular man is no real match is it?? That's really her point.
It was an extremely stupid idea sending along one woman to escort someone as dangerous as nichols. Does that mean that ALL woman can't do the job? Thats coulters biggest problem and I think its also one of the conservatives biggest problems. They can't look at something on a case by case basis and make the judgement that needs to be done at that time. They need to group up the whole and claim that ALL of it will lead to EVERYTHING being done thats wrong and immoral/unethical. I accuse liberals of doing this as well. just as often and just as stupidly. Its no wonder theres such a divide out there.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
some of the best riflemen I ever trained in the USMC were women.

I see this as one more step to declaring coulter insane.


How far could they throw a grenade or carry you if you needed to be removed from danger after being injured? And how often by percentage were they the best? Some women are huge and could probably kick the dudes ass, most are not. Coulter is talking about averages.

I don't think women should be removed from the duties, just expected to perform exactly as the men, I saw in boot camp how much easier they were treated than the men, how much lower the standards of physical ability they were expected to perform.

If they cannot lift a 200 lb dummy and remove it from a burn house (a place where firefighters practice under simulation) should they be a firefighter? Do you want them being the person that finds you in a fire if they do not have the strength to save you?

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting, "I can't hear you because you're are insane!" is not a substitute to opening your eyes and seeing actual reality.
 
Common sense needs to prevail.........I have no problem admitting most men are stronger than me, smarter no stronger yes, and I work out, lift weights and run about 7 to 10 miles per day. Generally speaking men are stronger than women, it's just a fact, no shame in admitting that. Which is why women need to be cunning, smart and safe.

I think that was Coulter's point, that feminists just can't admit to things like that, and our society shouldn't admit to that because somehow it diminishes woman's worth, which is not the case at all.
 
no1tovote4 said:
How far could they throw a grenade or carry you if you needed to be removed from danger after being injured? And how often by percentage were they the best? Some women are huge and could probably kick the dudes ass, most are not. Coulter is talking about averages.

I don't think women should be removed from the duties, just expected to perform exactly as the men, I saw in boot camp how much easier they were treated than the men, how much lower the standards of physical ability they were expected to perform.

If they cannot lift a 200 lb dummy and remove it from a burn house (a place where firefighters practice under simulation) should they be a firefighter? Do you want them being the person that finds you in a fire if they do not have the strength to save you?

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting, "I can't hear you because you're are insane!" is not a substitute to opening your eyes and seeing actual reality.
I agree with all that you said except your last. Your last seems to work well for bully and psycho just fine.
 
I don't understand Coulter's question: "How many people have to die before the country stops humoring feminists?"

What's wrong with feminist humorists? I think some are very funny and I can't think of one female comedian who has caused anyone to die. Unless they died of laughter.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
some of the best riflemen I ever trained in the USMC were women.
How is that relevant?

Nowhere did she claim women couldn't shoot straight. That isn't even remotely her point.

It was an extremely stupid idea sending along one woman to escort someone as dangerous as nichols. Does that mean that ALL woman can't do the job? Thats coulters biggest problem and I think its also one of the conservatives biggest problems. They can't look at something on a case by case basis and make the judgement that needs to be done at that time.
But that is what she is doing.

In this particular instance she asked herself, why is it that a slight, 5-foot woman was assigned this task?

The conclusion she came to was: because those in charge feared the ramifications of openly proclaiming that a 5-foot woman was not capable of carrying out this task.

So this small female officer was therefore allowed to, and she got shot in the face as a result. Lucky for her, she's the one who lived.

I'm looking up the text of a sound bite I heard on the radio of the police officer in charge. The extent of his PC brainwashing is breath-taking.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
It was an extremely stupid idea sending along one woman to escort someone as dangerous as nichols. Does that mean that ALL woman can't do the job? Thats coulters biggest problem and I think its also one of the conservatives biggest problems. They can't look at something on a case by case basis and make the judgement that needs to be done at that time. They need to group up the whole and claim that ALL of it will lead to EVERYTHING being done thats wrong and immoral/unethical. I accuse liberals of doing this as well. just as often and just as stupidly. Its no wonder theres such a divide out there.

There's a divide because libs are communist, lie-believing idiots.
 
Well, I doubt I'll ever be able to find it.

The gist of it was, a reporter asked the Chief in this particular precinct if in retrospect it was perhaps a bad idea to have a five-foot 51 year old woman escorting this man.

His reply was something to the effect of, "a woman can do anything a man can do. I believe that. I don't think weight had very much to do with it at all."

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Now A, he doesn't really believe that, he just thinks he needs to say that. In which case he's a liar.

Or B, he has been so thoroughly brainwashed it is really quite disturbing.
 
SmarterThanYou, I think that you are allowing your feelings about Coulter to crowd the issue. Coulter goes as far to one extreme as possible, she does it on purpose to grab attention and get people talking...to deride and insult her is to fall into the trap she so obviously placed for people, such as yourself...who get so wrapped up in the little jibes and nonsense in her article...that you miss the point.

Why was a 5ft. tall, small grandmother given the responsibility to guard a huge, former lineback accused of a violent crime?

Because women in recent times have been told since birth that they can do anything a man can do...and if they can't its because of sexual discrimination and rules need to be changed to allow women to do what they were not able to do before.

Coulter has no problem with women who pass the mandatory physical requirements holding jobs....she is only stating the obvious...most women WON'T BE ABLE TO pass those exams. (Without the changes and simplification that we have done in recent times in order to make them "female friendly.")

I was a lifeguard and a competitive swimmer in college...in excellent shape. Today, I jog everyday...I, a young woman in good physical shape still probably couldn't pickup a 6 foot tall, 200lb man and drag him out of a burning building...at 5ft tall myself, the logistics of it... would make many jobs that depend upon physical strength incredibley difficult for me.

Now...if I work my ass off, get my muscle mass up and am able to pass the exams...and if thats what I want to do with my life then of course...I should be able to be a cop, a firefighter, etc.

But why are we lowering standards in these dangerous jobs to be able to accept women? Why are we saying..."This is the bare minimum you must be able to do in order to do this highly important and dangerous job....unless you have a vagina...then you can do even less than the minimum and still be hired to do the job."

Its stupid and dangerous, and it has been brought about by idiots who can't accept the simply biological fact that the majority of women in good shape will never be as strong as an average man in good shape.

Now...they have demonstrated that women make excellent sharp shooters...I believe they have also shown that womens reflexes are, in general, faster, which gives them a higher aptitude towards flying as well...so what is wrong with saying that men are better and jobs requiring brute strength...such as firefighting...or fending off large male attackers???

What Coulter said, in her usual, controversial way, is that we have all, in the sake of being "gender friendy," ignored simply biological facts...men, in general are stronger than women...and while some women might train themselves up to be as strong as a man...most women will not be as strong as most men...and therefore...putting an average woman in a postition in which she must PHYSICALLY control an average man...is stupid and dangerous.

The article was amusingly smarmy...but her point, as always, is interesting and debate worthy.
 
Gem said:
Coulter has no problem with women who pass the mandatory physical requirements holding jobs....she is only stating the obvious...most women WON'T BE ABLE TO pass those exams. (Without the changes and simplification that we have done in recent times in order to make them "female friendly.")

But why are we lowering standards in these dangerous jobs to be able to accept women? Why are we saying..."This is the bare minimum you must be able to do in order to do this highly important and dangerous job....unless you have a vagina...then you can do even less than the minimum and still be hired to do the job."

Its stupid and dangerous, and it has been brought about by idiots who can't accept the simply biological fact that the majority of women in good shape will never be as strong as an average man in good shape.

Now...they have demonstrated that women make excellent sharp shooters...I believe they have also shown that womens reflexes are, in general, faster, which gives them a higher aptitude towards flying as well...so what is wrong with saying that men are better and jobs requiring brute strength...such as firefighting...or fending off large male attackers???

What Coulter said, in her usual, controversial way, is that we have all, in the sake of being "gender friendy," ignored simply biological facts...men, in general are stronger than women...and while some women might train themselves up to be as strong as a man...most women will not be as strong as most men...and therefore...putting an average woman in a postition in which she must PHYSICALLY control an average man...is stupid and dangerous.

The article was amusingly smarmy...but her point, as always, is interesting and debate worthy.

I think most women will agree with what you've written here. It's a shame that the squeeky wheel, femanists in this case, are the only ones being heard. Women firefighters especially shouldn't be given any special consideraton. If they can't do the job, they shouldn't be there.

I consider myself to be an average in shape woman, I would hate to take on an average sized man. My husband is 5'11" and can hold me down no problem, he's stronger, men usually are.

The US could stand to be a lot less PC, pull their heads out of their asses, take a deep breath and clear their heads. Hopefully this would help people see that not everyone is the same.
 
it happens all the time. A group of individuals cant compete at the current level against another group due to their inferiority. So rather than trying harder or realizing that it just aint gonna happen, they rig the rules in their favor. Doesnt make them any stronger or faster or better at the competition. Just means that the rules say they are.

I grant that most women are as smart if not smarter then men in certain areas. Men however are smarter in other areas. But when it comes to physical ability, nature has decreed that the male of the species 99% of the time is stronger then the female.

So enough of females getting different standards for police, firefighter, armed forces, hell even farm hand. You do what the job requires. IF you cant handle it, then you cant handle it.
 

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