How many of the HILLARY VOTES are from illegal immigrants? Does Trump win Pop Vote?

Take these words and learn them by heart...AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM. I dont care to imitate "every other country" even if you were right.

We aren't "Exceptional"... except in our own minds.

The US Trails those countries in every statistic of importants. Oh, wait, we lead in people who think Angels are real.

The Myth of American Exceptionalism
"In its classic forms, American exceptionalism refers to the special character of the United States as a uniquely free nation based on democratic ideals and personal liberty." Google
Tell us again how we are not exceptional?
exceptional: "unusual; not typical." Google
So, I guess by definition, we ARE exceptional, as we are the exception, not the rule, right?
Try again.

Thank you!. Joeb131 apparently did not know what "american exceptionalism" is.

American exceptionalism - Wikipedia

But that doesnt stop a liberal. He thought that perhaps someone was bragging or saying something good about America so he leapt right in with a counterattack.
What a maroon

Oh goody. Is it History Revision Time again already? I mean I'm still tickled by "Hitler was a leftist", "FDR caused the Depression" and "John Lennon voted for Reagan".

From your own link:

>> Similar beliefs have existed historically elsewhere in the world, such as Whig history in Britain which held that the political system of the British Empire was the apex of human development and uniquely suited to ruling foreign peoples benignly, and Sinocentrism in China, which regarded Chinese culture as more ancient than or superior to other cultures and neighboring countries as mere offshoots of China, although neither of these views is common in the present day. <<​

From RationalWiki:

>> American exceptionalism is a belief that the United States is unique or exceptional when compared with the historical development of other countries. It would be easy to pigeon-hole as nationalism, but it is more expansive and more concentrated than that. It is a popular ideal held by many American conservatives,[2] though the temptation is not entirely limited to the right. Several liberal historians and politicians have embraced certain aspects of American exceptionalism, in particular in the "vital center" and "end of ideology" views popular among American liberals in the mid-20th century. American exceptionalism is also a core belief within neoconservatism.

One major characteristic of American exceptionalism from a historiographical viewpoint is its tendency to gloss over what it would consider "bad" history, such as slavery, treatment of Native Americans, segregation, and the Jim Crow South, and emphasize or mythologize the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, and George Washington, the "Wild West," or even controversial aspects of American involvement in the world wars.

American exceptionalism may view the United States through the lens of a special historical determinism for the United States, separate from broad historical trends in the rest of the world. It may, for a variety of reasons, view the U.S. as a nation that is immune (or should be immune) from things like terrorism and dictatorship — "It can't happen here." The U.S. in turn is supposed to assume an activist role around the world in promoting "freedom" or being a "shining example" to the world (the "City on a Hill"). This sort of presumptive moral superiority is virtually never welcomed by other nations, and is almost always resented, particularly when the U.S. has a long history of engaging in gunboat diplomacy itself. If an American wants to understand how the concept of American Exceptionalism sounds to almost anyone in the world who is not an American, take any speech or screed effusing the wonders of American exceptionalism, and re-read it substituting the word "white" for every instance of "American" — you'll see how bigoted and overbearing American Exceptionalism really sounds.

The belief by Americans in American exceptionalism is one of the reasons for worldwide resentment or dislike of the USA.[3] To the rest of the world it sounds less like "America is Exceptional" and more like "Exceptions should be made for America". It's effectively a form of special pleading. <<

/exceptionally offtopic
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.

Well?

How many?

Instead of these constant lies, post a link or stfu.

The election was rigged, as have been past elections -
By Repubs. Gerrymandering, voter suppression, vote theft. The Dems believe all citizens have the right to vote. Crooked criminal Republicans believe only they should have the right to vote.

Without lying, stealing and cheating,Repubs wouldn't get elected.

If you were honest, you would admit that's part of why you voted to screw over your own country.




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"In its classic forms, American exceptionalism refers to the special character of the United States as a uniquely free nation based on democratic ideals and personal liberty." Google
Tell us again how we are not exceptional?
exceptional: "unusual; not typical." Google
So, I guess by definition, we ARE exceptional, as we are the exception, not the rule, right?
Try again.

Guy, we are not Exceptional.

Americans are the most backwards, ignorant people in the industrialized world... We're fat, lazy, stupid and we don't even want to buy our own products.
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.


Illegals can't vote in this country, nor would they try it, because they would be found and deported immediately.

Multi year studies have shown out of every BILLION votes cast, there will be 31 people stupid enough to try and cast a fraudulent vote.
A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast

And they did find one this year.

imrs.php

A Trump supporter arrested for trying to vote more than once.
Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

What is being counted are all the overseas ballots. Hillary Clinton is leading the popular vote by 1.7 million votes and it's certain to go higher because they're not done counting yet. Making Donald Trump the lamest duck President ever to be sworn into the Oval office.
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.


Illegals can't vote in this country, nor would they try it, because they would be found and deported immediately.

Multi year studies have shown out of every BILLION votes cast, there will be 31 people stupid enough to try and cast a fraudulent vote.
A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast

And they did find one this year.

imrs.php

A Trump supporter arrested for trying to vote more than once.
Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

What is being counted are all the overseas ballots. Hillary Clinton is leading the popular vote by 1.7 million votes and it's certain to go higher because they're not done counting yet. Making Donald Trump the lamest duck President ever to be sworn into the Oval office.


Almost.
Actually Quincy Adams (1824) and Rutherford Hayes (1876) had even less popular support, expressed as a percentage. And both of those guys had to be installed by Congress for lack of enough Electrical Votes.
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.
What if..... the illegal vote claimed by Republicans matches the suppressed/denied vote in States that have been so good at it in the past and freed up by SCOTUS to renewed efforts. Could it be a wash? ps, does head banging cause mind damage?
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.


Illegals can't vote in this country, nor would they try it, because they would be found and deported immediately.

Multi year studies have shown out of every BILLION votes cast, there will be 31 people stupid enough to try and cast a fraudulent vote.
A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast

And they did find one this year.

imrs.php

A Trump supporter arrested for trying to vote more than once.
Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

What is being counted are all the overseas ballots. Hillary Clinton is leading the popular vote by 1.7 million votes and it's certain to go higher because they're not done counting yet. Making Donald Trump the lamest duck President ever to be sworn into the Oval office.


Almost.
Actually Quincy Adams (1824) and Rutherford Hayes (1876) had even less popular support, expressed as a percentage. And both of those guys had to be installed by Congress for lack of enough Electrical Votes.


Adam & Hayes both 1 term President's-- And neither one of them had to barricade themselves inside their residences.--LOL

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This whole claim that she "got more votes" is a complete failure of logic anyways. If the hypothesis is that "More folks voted Hillary" --- that's actually blatantly FALSE. Because anyone saying that is disenfranchising the large 4.2% of the vote that went to Stein and Johnson. Remember them? They got votes also. And THOSE votes were on principles and AGAINST the 2 major power whores.

So Hilliary got 48% of the vote and 52% of the people VOTED AGAINST HER...

(FCT certified Fact-Checked estimate) :badgrin:


In the future, the brand name candidates will be getting less and less of the total. It's a definite trend. So soon, you partisans will be arguing about "consensus" and "plurality" when your candidates have 60% or 70% of America voting against them.

Now -- if you're really desperate and butt-hurt --- You could have a NEW hypothesis to test. Which is "In a 2 way race between JUST Clinton and Trump -- Clinton won" .. Problem with that hypothesis is -- we did NOT HAVE a 2 way race. So you'd have to analyze and see how that the 4.2% WOULD have voted in a 2 way race. Not likely to be convincing. Since her current 0.7% "margin" over Trump COULD BE because Trump suffered 0.7% more by the presence of OTHER CHOICES on the ballot. And my educated guess is that MOST of that 4.2% that the Dems don't want to recognize ---- just would have stayed home. But there's enough votes in that bundle to AFFECT the pop vote outcome. EVEN WITH --- illegals voting in Cali. Or any of the other "excuses".

She didn't "WIN" the popular vote. More folks voted AGAINST HER then FOR HER... By far...
 
This whole claim that she "got more votes" is a complete failure of logic anyways. If the hypothesis is that "More folks voted Hillary" --- that's actually blatantly FALSE.

Sure. Because you just contradicted yourself with weasel words.

"She got more votes" [than Rump] is not the same as "More folks voted Hillary" [than anybody]. And we already did this.

What's being inspected here is the margin between the EC winner and the PV winner.

Which btw, this just in, is encroaching on two million --- specifically 1,941,226, or more than the entire populations of West Virginia, Nebraska, Idaho and ten other states.


Here's what the contrast looks like (so far) graphically. This pie chart is the projected EV, assuming a final of 306 to 232:

pie.php

(Rump is in blue and Clinton in red -- I don't know why but the site does it backward)
Now here's a pie chart of (so far) the PV:
pie.php

(same color code plus Yellow = all others except McMulllin)
(Numbers and pie charts from here)

So while we can say 52% voted against Hillary, we would also say 54% voted against Rump.

One is left to ponder what those would look like had we a choice for NOTA.
 
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"In its classic forms, American exceptionalism refers to the special character of the United States as a uniquely free nation based on democratic ideals and personal liberty." Google
Tell us again how we are not exceptional?
exceptional: "unusual; not typical." Google
So, I guess by definition, we ARE exceptional, as we are the exception, not the rule, right?
Try again.

Guy, we are not Exceptional.

Americans are the most backwards, ignorant people in the industrialized world... We're fat, lazy, stupid and we don't even want to buy our own products.
It's the American Way, the American political, and economic system that is the exception to the rule. So, yes, in that sense, we ARE EXCEPTIONAL. Get a grip, and face reality. True we are fat, and lazy, but we can be because we have achieved so much in such a short period of time, and most of the rest of the world wants to emulate us in one way or another.
 
IBT reporting that Clinton could have as many as 2,000,000 more votes than Trump.

(In recognizing the new normal I will do as righties here do and just post a drive-by comment without corroboration or verification. However, my comment is easily Googled).
With 11 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in the country and Obama encouraging them to vote it shows you just how shitty a candidate Hillary was that she only got 2 million of the illegals votes.
 
IBT reporting that Clinton could have as many as 2,000,000 more votes than Trump.

(In recognizing the new normal I will do as righties here do and just post a drive-by comment without corroboration or verification. However, my comment is easily Googled).
With 11 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in the country and Obama encouraging them to vote it shows you just how shitty a candidate Hillary was that she only got 2 million of the illegals votes.

Actually it shows us how active the Invent-o-sphere is that this turd is still being flung with no evidence whatsoever.
 
It's the American Way, the American political, and economic system that is the exception to the rule. So, yes, in that sense, we ARE EXCEPTIONAL. Get a grip, and face reality. True we are fat, and lazy, but we can be because we have achieved so much in such a short period of time, and most of the rest of the world wants to emulate us in one way or another.

I don't think anyone wants to emulate us at this point. Maybe 100 years ago, that was true, but not today.
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.
Illegals voting is another lie you've swallowed. God Americans are really dumb.
 
...and if that's the case and Trump actually won the popular vote, then those protesting will stop....right?

:bang3:

Trump never went to Cali to campaign...if it was ONLY about POPULAR VOTE, he would have visited California.
Does a candidate visiting your state ever change your mind? I never understood when they say, "hillary should have visited that state more".

Why? Who does this win over?
 

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