How many mosques were in the region called Palestine around 1900?

[rylah]

I get that Eugenics are important when discussing Islamic shrines...

 

[rylah]

And no, Zionism is a product of the Jews , not the other way around.
Claiming otherwise is actually repeating the revisionist (anti)Zionist history.

We have enough active threads on this topic, like "before 1948", but You seem to neglect Monte's numerous genetic studies that contradict what he and You claim about Jews as a distinct people.

It is arbitrary saying and using the word "Jews"because the majority of "Jews" were converts to Judiaism by Central Asians....Not Real Jews at all.

So delineate factually who the Jews you are mentioning in your prose.....most Jews today are not,repeat NOT Semitic Jews at all and have NO linage to Abraham at all......the only population of Semitic people in the Middle East are the Palestinians.

You leave Grey areas regarding the Jews as it is part of the Zionist Doctrine,....and as we know that is a lie.....Now Rylah you are showing Great Deceit in your posts...Why?steve

Wrong.
You should keep up with the findings on this forum.
Montelatici presented us with 2 genetic studies contradicting this bogus claim team Palestine likes to repeat.
I'm open to discussion in the appropriate threads (before 1948 for example).

No I'm right as usual...if you are claiming that Nicolas Wade (see Monti's post) is some authority on DNA think again,most of his writings are flawed and completely debunked,as for the inane suggestion that "Tribes" who converted to Judaism somehow are Semitic or have any reality to original Jews is just a puff of smoke...as I said you deceive yourself but it is a lie.

All I see is You talking about You always being right, about things I've never mentioned

 

[theliq]

And no, Zionism is a product of the Jews , not the other way around.
Claiming otherwise is actually repeating the revisionist (anti)Zionist history.

We have enough active threads on this topic, like "before 1948", but You seem to neglect Monte's numerous genetic studies that contradict what he and You claim about Jews as a distinct people.

It is arbitrary saying and using the word "Jews"because the majority of "Jews" were converts to Judiaism by Central Asians....Not Real Jews at all.

So delineate factually who the Jews you are mentioning in your prose.....most Jews today are not,repeat NOT Semitic Jews at all and have NO linage to Abraham at all......the only population of Semitic people in the Middle East are the Palestinians.

You leave Grey areas regarding the Jews as it is part of the Zionist Doctrine,....and as we know that is a lie.....Now Rylah you are showing Great Deceit in your posts...Why?steve

Wrong.
You should keep up with the findings on this forum.
Montelatici presented us with 2 genetic studies contradicting this bogus claim team Palestine likes to repeat.
I'm open to discussion in the appropriate threads (before 1948 for example).

No I'm right as usual...if you are claiming that Nicolas Wade (see Monti's post) is some authority on DNA think again,most of his writings are flawed and completely debunked,as for the inane suggestion that "Tribes" who converted to Judaism somehow are Semitic or have any reality to original Jews is just a puff of smoke...as I said you deceive yourself but it is a lie.

All I see is You talking about You always being right, about things I've never mentioned

Your Madness knows NO BOUNDS

 

[Challenger]

And no, Zionism is a product of the Jews , not the other way around.
Claiming otherwise is actually repeating the revisionist (anti)Zionist history.

We have enough active threads on this topic, like "before 1948", but You seem to neglect Monte's numerous genetic studies that contradict what he and You claim about Jews as a distinct people.

Zionism was actually an English concept first promulgated in the 17th century by the Puritan movement in order to "encourage" the second coming. Modern Zionism was the brain child of a non religious journalist and playwright who hated the idea of "Jewishness" in his early life and wanted to be a German. He may not have "invented" Zionism, (that accolade should really go to Bibas) but he was the foremost convert to and salesman for it.

I don't consider Jewish people as a distinct "people", you're confusing me with someone else, they are to me just a religious group, like Mormons or Amish.

 

[rylah]

And no, Zionism is a product of the Jews , not the other way around.
Claiming otherwise is actually repeating the revisionist (anti)Zionist history.

We have enough active threads on this topic, like "before 1948", but You seem to neglect Monte's numerous genetic studies that contradict what he and You claim about Jews as a distinct people.

Zionism was actually an English concept first promulgated in the 17th century by the Puritan movement in order to "encourage" the second coming. Modern Zionism was the brain child of a non religious journalist and playwright who hated the idea of "Jewishness" in his early life and wanted to be a German. He may not have "invented" Zionism, (that accolade should really go to Bibas) but he was the foremost convert to and salesman for it.

I don't consider Jewish people as a distinct "people", you're confusing me with someone else, they are to me just a religious group, like Mormons or Amish.

If Zionism according to You is against Judaism, then who are the Jews they're talking about?

Nathan Birenbaum:

In 1883, at the age of 19, he founded Kadimah, the first Jewish (Zionist) student association in Vienna, many years before Theodor Herzl became the leading spokesman of the Zionist movement. While still a student, he founded and published the periodical Selbstemanzipation!,[5] often written in large part by Birnbaum himself. In it he coined the terms "Zionistic", "Zionist", "Zionism" (1890), and "political Zionism" (1892).[6]



Birnbaum played a prominent part in the First Zionist Congress (1897) where he was elected Secretary-General of the Zionist Organization. He was associated with and was one of the most important representatives of the cultural, rather than political, side of Zionism. However, he left the Zionist Organization not long after the Congress. He was unhappy with its negative view of Diaspora Jewry and the transformation of the Zionist ideals into a party machine.

 

[rylah]

Now how did we get into discussing Zionism, while I was talking about the original al-Aqsa mosque initially?

Let's continue on the subject, and bring the discussion about Zionism into the appropriate thread.
I'm willing to discuss, it's just totally irrelevant here.

 

[rylah]

Maybe Zionism is actually a part of Islam, who's prophet claimed be a descendant of the Israelites....and maybe that's why building mosques on the Holiest places for Jews was important to Muslims

 

[theliq]

Now how did we get into discussing Zionism, while I was talking about the original al-Aqsa mosque initially?

Let's continue on the subject, and bring the discussion about Zionism into the appropriate thread.
I'm willing to discuss, it's just totally irrelevant here.

Because like most of your posts...you are easily distracted

 

[theliq]

Maybe Zionism is actually a part of Islam, who's prophet claimed be a descendant of the Israelites....and maybe that's why building mosques on the Holiest places for Jews was important to Muslims

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

 

[rylah]

Maybe Zionism is actually a part of Islam, who's prophet claimed be a descendant of the Israelites....and maybe that's why building mosques on the Holiest places for Jews was important to Muslims

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

You can think what You want, but Jews don't need any 'claims' to live in their homeland. All Abrahamic traditions point to one place, You just have to be honest, or not, doesn't change it.

But remember that line of thought when You're going to advocate for Palestinians to return somewhere. It works both ways...

 

[rylah]

Now how did we get into discussing Zionism, while I was talking about the original al-Aqsa mosque initially?

Let's continue on the subject, and bring the discussion about Zionism into the appropriate thread.
I'm willing to discuss, it's just totally irrelevant here.

Because like most of your posts...you are easily distracted

No, You just deflected to Your usual racist blabbing, because I was talking about the mosque on top of the Temple Mount.

But it seems kinda appropriate since were're talking about mosques, and we both know what is being taught about Jews in most of them.

Wanna talk about it?

 

[Challenger]

If Zionism according to You is against Judaism, then who are the Jews they're talking about?

Once again, you are confusing me with someone else. Try to keep up.

You can think what You want, but Jews don't need any 'claims' to live in their homeland. All Abrahamic traditions point to one place, You just have to be honest, or not, doesn't change it.

So...how many European and North African residents of the Zionist paradise can actually trace their lineage back to the Judeans of antiquity, who may or may not have followed Judean monotheism but could equally have been Pagan? As for "Abrahamic traditions", I wasn't aware Abraham (the "Iraqi") built anything in or around Jerusalem.

 

[rylah]

If Zionism according to You is against Judaism, then who are the Jews they're talking about?

Once again, you are confusing me with someone else. Try to keep up.

You can think what You want, but Jews don't need any 'claims' to live in their homeland. All Abrahamic traditions point to one place, You just have to be honest, or not, doesn't change it.

So...how many European and North African residents of the Zionist paradise can actually trace their lineage back to the Judeans of antiquity, who may or may not have followed Judean monotheism but could equally have been Pagan? As for "Abrahamic traditions", I wasn't aware Abraham (the "Iraqi") built anything in or around Jerusalem.

More deflections, what a surprise!
I guess discussing the 'al-Aqsa' (or is it really??) triggers many to change the subject to the usual anti-Zionist blabbing.


Abraham Our Father built 4 altars all in the surrounding areas of Jerusalem, and in it.
One in Schem, one near Beit-El, one in Hebron and one...on the Temple Mount at the site of bounding of Isaac.
The site of the altar in Jerusalem, was later bought by king David for 600 golden Shekels to build the Beit-Mikdash or 'Bait al-Maqdis" as Muslims call it.

Millenias before Muslims started building their mosques on top of Jewish and Christian holy sites.

 

[teddyearp]

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

But several hundred thousand 'Palestinians' fled the area almost 70 years ago, therefore by your rationale, their claims are null and void as well, wouldn't they be?

Further, in both cases however, many stayed and enjoy the new blooming country of Israel.

 

[teddyearp]

So, are we going to discuss the topic of this thread, or are we going to deflect and detract it into the same old arguments. Again.

 

[montelatici]

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

But several hundred thousand 'Palestinians' fled the area almost 70 years ago, therefore by your rationale, their claims are null and void as well, wouldn't they be?

Further, in both cases however, many stayed and enjoy the new blooming country of Israel.

Because the UN caused the problem, a special refugee program was set up for those injured by a UN action and their claims are recognized through generations by the UN.

 

[theliq]

Now how did we get into discussing Zionism, while I was talking about the original al-Aqsa mosque initially?

Let's continue on the subject, and bring the discussion about Zionism into the appropriate thread.
I'm willing to discuss, it's just totally irrelevant here.

Because like most of your posts...you are easily distracted

No, You just deflected to Your usual racist blabbing, because I was talking about the mosque on top of the Temple Mount.

But it seems kinda appropriate since were're talking about mosques, and we both know what is being taught about Jews in most of them.

Wanna talk about it?

You Lost ...I WON as usual,you have become a BORE

 

[theliq]

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

But several hundred thousand 'Palestinians' fled the area almost 70 years ago, therefore by your rationale, their claims are null and void as well, wouldn't they be?

Further, in both cases however, many stayed and enjoy the new blooming country of Israel.

No,No Teddy here you are SADLY INCORRECT,they did not leave willingly but the were forced into EXILE under the FEAR OF EXTERMINATION Teddy by the Zionist Terrorist Groups AS YOU FULL WELL KNOW....then all their towns and villages were RAZED TO THE GROUND,and thus enabling the JEWISH TERRORISTS AMONGST YOU to claim as part of the Zionist Mantra "THAT THESE AREAS WERE UNINHABITED"....which has been taught in the Israeli School System ever since....I like you Teddy but STOP TALKING SUCH SHIT because it DEMEANS YOU FRIEND....steve

 

[theliq]

Jews fled this area for 2 thousand years pal......you have no more claim to this area than I do....and Zionists certainly have NO Claim..only the Palestinians of course

But several hundred thousand 'Palestinians' fled the area almost 70 years ago, therefore by your rationale, their claims are null and void as well, wouldn't they be?

Further, in both cases however, many stayed and enjoy the new blooming country of Israel.

And where would Israel be today without the Great Palestinians Teddy.....??????.....

 

[theliq]

Now how did we get into discussing Zionism, while I was talking about the original al-Aqsa mosque initially?

Let's continue on the subject, and bring the discussion about Zionism into the appropriate thread.
I'm willing to discuss, it's just totally irrelevant here.

Because like most of your posts...you are easily distracted

No, You just deflected to Your usual racist blabbing, because I was talking about the mosque on top of the Temple Mount.

But it seems kinda appropriate since were're talking about mosques, and we both know what is being taught about Jews in most of them.

Wanna talk about it?

Racist ??? Not Me at all........Maybe you are still looking in that Zionist Mirror of yours.......LOL...steve