How many mosques were in the region called Palestine around 1900?

teddyearp said:
louie888 said:
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Haha. The same damn picture you've posted in this thread that proves NOTHING at all towards this thread.
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louie888 said:
teddyearp said:
louie888 said:
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Haha. The same damn picture you've posted in this thread that proves NOTHING at all towards this thread.
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All those places are referenced here...

Acre Subdistrict
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Beisan Subdistrict
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Jenin Subdistrict
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It would make sense to cut and paste the above, again, across multiple threads.
 
fanger said:
You had the chance to visit Palestine and you chickened out O Ginger one
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Hmm. So here you admit that the whole area is NOT Palestine? Thank you.

But let me go on. On both my visits, I went totally solo, no group, no tour, just me. My first trip, after leaving the airport, my taxi dropped me at the end of a deserted street at 4 am in Netanya. Not a main tourist town. I had to wake up the gate man to get into my hotel. Pretty chickenshit, right? During that visit, though most of the Arab Muslims I interacted with were pleasant, there were a few that were not at all.

Like the little kid about ten or so while I was walking south from the Damascus gate through the Arab/Muslim shuk in Old City Jerusalem who kept running his cart into my heels on purpose. The foot traffic was terrible and I could not go any faster. Like the Arab who literally grabbed me by the shoulder with a grip to get me to go into his shop. Like the young shopkeeper in the Old City whom after I bought a souvenir from in the Old City drew his finger across his neck at me just because I thanked him in Hebrew. Yes a cultural mistake on my part, but a bit extreme in the response, no? Granted on that first trip, I did not budget time to visit say Bethlehem nor Jericho, but the experiences I had with 'Palestinians' stuck with me.

On my second trip, I did consider visiting 'Palestine', but taking into light my previous experiences with them, coupled with the murders at the synagogue a few months before and the car rammings etc., I did not chicken out. I chose not to validate that behavior with going into there with my tourist shekels.
 
theliq said:
After a protracted absence,talks resumed,both Teddy (like the new Avie Teddy) and Steve,reiterated their commitment to the two communities.....
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Oh but yes Steve, if only. But here we are getting drug into the old saber rattling routine again about the old wrongs. If only. And I am just as much to blame as any other, but I will put a good bit of blame on screwy louie of late since he seems to have made it his mission to be more rabble rouser than peacemaker here.
 
montelatici said:
It has never been debunked. Fact cannot be debunked. Must be tough to have to deny fact in evry post.
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On the contrary. It is easy to debunk your 'facts' because you have none. And then you only post the same ones over and over again.
 
louie888 said:
teddyearp said:
Roudy said:
fanger said:
Did you mean Zacharias Kosher belts?
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Is that you in the video?
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No. He's too much a ***** to even do that one. Just a keyboard electronic intifadist.
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LOL, from the guy that spams fake news and jewish lies daily.
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Actually Louie,Teddy did give us an excellent exposea of his trip to Israel and he did meet Palestinians which he was quite positive about,,...he is not a Dumb Ass at all,most of the time, but quite interesting....as more dialogue with him will show. He can like much of the Zionist Lobby be infuriating at times but I do have is back....at one time someone was insulting about his weight....That is Bad and Unfair(who gives a shit about any of that crap)He believes and is passionate about his people(although I don't agree, for obvious reasons,I have clearly spelled out in the past).

Although I am a great exponent at Slagging folk off,and No one has had more venom throw at them...in the end there can be a profitable 2 State solution,I am Pragmatic enough to realize Israel is here today and will be,the real problem for Peace is the Rabids on both sides.

Viva Palestine and Palestinians,those true Semitic People...unlike the Majority of Israelis today who are not a Semitic people at all.....just a lot of Blow In,Synthetic Zionist Jews

Israel could change things tomorrow if they really wanted to.......I don't think they do because the country is Riddled with Zionist Scum....Which is an irony,considering.Keep up the battle Louie and all the wonderful Pro Palestinians...steve....remember So many Jews want a Peaceful Resolution,trouble is these Settlers and Zionists are Shit
 
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

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Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

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How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
montelatici said:
There was no bias, in fact, it is the translation of the French text that was written contemporaneously with the film. As far as mosques in Ottoman Palestine circa 1900s, here are some photos of a few of the hundreds of mosques in Ottoman Palestine. You see, the Hasbara propaganda you read and are trying to spread is bullshit. Propaganda is all the Zionists have, and you have been brainwashed to believe and propagate it. In 1900 there were about 700,000 people only 70,000 were Jews after many decades of European Jew migration, the rest were Muslim and Christians. Do you really believe there were no mosques. LOL

Famous Mosques in the Palestinian Territories
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Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
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There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

Jerusalem, Jerusalem
 
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

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Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

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How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
montelatici said:
There was no bias, in fact, it is the translation of the French text that was written contemporaneously with the film. As far as mosques in Ottoman Palestine circa 1900s, here are some photos of a few of the hundreds of mosques in Ottoman Palestine. You see, the Hasbara propaganda you read and are trying to spread is bullshit. Propaganda is all the Zionists have, and you have been brainwashed to believe and propagate it. In 1900 there were about 700,000 people only 70,000 were Jews after many decades of European Jew migration, the rest were Muslim and Christians. Do you really believe there were no mosques. LOL

Famous Mosques in the Palestinian Territories
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Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
Click to expand...

There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

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Let us go back a little further before the Jews-Israelites arrived in this part of the world.....This was the Land of the Canaanites and their capital was Salem(now Jeru SALEM).

As a footnote....The Israelites EXTERMINATED the Canaanites.....What an Irony....Considering
 
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teddyearp said:
So, as we can all see now, there were not nearly enough mosques to support the amount of permanent Arab/Muslims that are claimed to have been in the district of southern Syria around the year 1900.
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Say what? How did you come to that conclusion? In Muslim practice all a Muslim need do is pray at set times of the day, this can be done alone or in a group; a mosque is not a prerequisite. In Palestine and throughout the Islamic world at the time, communities without Mosques would come together to pray at local shrines or even in open ground.
 
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

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Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

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How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
montelatici said:
There was no bias, in fact, it is the translation of the French text that was written contemporaneously with the film. As far as mosques in Ottoman Palestine circa 1900s, here are some photos of a few of the hundreds of mosques in Ottoman Palestine. You see, the Hasbara propaganda you read and are trying to spread is bullshit. Propaganda is all the Zionists have, and you have been brainwashed to believe and propagate it. In 1900 there were about 700,000 people only 70,000 were Jews after many decades of European Jew migration, the rest were Muslim and Christians. Do you really believe there were no mosques. LOL

Famous Mosques in the Palestinian Territories
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Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
Click to expand...

There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

Jerusalem, Jerusalem
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Interesting reference; the same source states around 610CE, Mohammed commanded his followers to pray facing towards Jerusalem. The earliest recorded Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Madinat bayt a Maqdis" literally "City of the Temple"
 
teddyearp said:
...Like the Arab who literally grabbed me by the shoulder with a grip to get me to go into his shop...
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Clearly you have never been to anywhere the ME or you would know that is common practice from Morocco to Iraq. You are quite within your rights to shrug off these attempts, or push them out of your way when the block your path showing you their wares, although a simple "imshi" is usually enough to get them to move. If you think shop keepers are bad, wait until you encounter gangs of beggars, or cute little kids holding their hands out. You are obviously a novice and they saw you coming, it was nothing personal, and if you are stupid enough to speak Israeli at them, that's your own fault if they express their feelings towards their oppressors at you.
 
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Challenger said:
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

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Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

View attachment 127782

How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
montelatici said:
There was no bias, in fact, it is the translation of the French text that was written contemporaneously with the film. As far as mosques in Ottoman Palestine circa 1900s, here are some photos of a few of the hundreds of mosques in Ottoman Palestine. You see, the Hasbara propaganda you read and are trying to spread is bullshit. Propaganda is all the Zionists have, and you have been brainwashed to believe and propagate it. In 1900 there were about 700,000 people only 70,000 were Jews after many decades of European Jew migration, the rest were Muslim and Christians. Do you really believe there were no mosques. LOL

Famous Mosques in the Palestinian Territories
Click to expand...

Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
Click to expand...

There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

Jerusalem, Jerusalem
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Interesting reference; the same source states around 610CE, Mohammed commanded his followers to pray facing towards Jerusalem. The earliest recorded Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Madinat bayt a Maqdis" literally "City of the Temple"
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So let's sum it up:
1. There's literally not one mention of 'Jerusalem' in the Quran
2. When regarding Jerusalem in Islamic commentary sources-
they transliterate it straight from Hebrew - בית מקדש 'Beit Mikdash'.
3. After the (short time) commandment to face Jerusalem in 610, there's still not 1 mosque in Palestine for another 100 years.

In comparison to the span of Jewish history in that land - Jerusalem became of any significance to Islam just 'a week ago'.
 
rylah said:
Challenger said:
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

View attachment 127779

Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

View attachment 127782

How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
montelatici said:
There was no bias, in fact, it is the translation of the French text that was written contemporaneously with the film. As far as mosques in Ottoman Palestine circa 1900s, here are some photos of a few of the hundreds of mosques in Ottoman Palestine. You see, the Hasbara propaganda you read and are trying to spread is bullshit. Propaganda is all the Zionists have, and you have been brainwashed to believe and propagate it. In 1900 there were about 700,000 people only 70,000 were Jews after many decades of European Jew migration, the rest were Muslim and Christians. Do you really believe there were no mosques. LOL

Famous Mosques in the Palestinian Territories
Click to expand...

Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
Click to expand...

There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

Jerusalem, Jerusalem
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Interesting reference; the same source states around 610CE, Mohammed commanded his followers to pray facing towards Jerusalem. The earliest recorded Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Madinat bayt a Maqdis" literally "City of the Temple"
Click to expand...

So let's sum it up:
1. There's literally not one mention of 'Jerusalem' in the Quran
2. When regarding Jerusalem in Islamic commentary sources-
they transliterate it straight from Hebrew - בית מקדש 'Beit Mikdash'.
3. After the (short time) commandment to face Jerusalem in 610, there's still not 1 mosque in Palestine for another 100 years.

In comparison to the span of Jewish history in that land - Jerusalem became of any significance to Islam just 'a week ago'.
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1. Why should there be? The Quran was written well after Mohammed's death and by then Muslims were praying towards Mecca. Doesn't make Jerusalem any less revered by Muslims.
2. That's apparently what the city was called by Jewish people, so again, why shouldn't they?
3. The early Arab conquerors didn't need them, they either prayed in their camps or used Christian churches converted into temporary "mosques" for Muslim prayer, as it suited them.

As for "spans" of Jewish history, not so much; Judaism only became the dominant religion inthe area in the 2nd century BCE and even then it wasn't universally accepted by the population. The temple cult was destroyed by the Romans by the 2nd century CE, which left "rabbinic Judaism" scattered amongst various die-hard goups of religious fanatics and their converts throughout the Roman and Persian Empires until recent times so we're looking at a span of about 400 years where Judaism was "significant" in the region. Islam has been "significant" in the region for about 1300 years, so it's silly to try and use terms like "a week ago".
 
Challenger said:
rylah said:
Challenger said:
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

View attachment 127779

Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

View attachment 127782

How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

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montelatici said:
teddyearp said:
Is English your second language? I said "especially the Muslim calls to prayer" in the audio to refer to the bias of your film.

You must still be stinging from the nerves I am hitting since you still have to include your usual names when cornered. Also when cornered, you put words into others mouths. I NEVER said there were no mosques, I am simply asking how many?

Which brings me to your link. Wow. 15. Granted they are the most famous, but again, where is the Al Aqsa in that list?

Where in this link is there more than just a passing mention of any mosque in Israel?:



Mosque - Wikipedia
Click to expand...

There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
Click to expand...

"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

Jerusalem, Jerusalem
Click to expand...
Interesting reference; the same source states around 610CE, Mohammed commanded his followers to pray facing towards Jerusalem. The earliest recorded Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Madinat bayt a Maqdis" literally "City of the Temple"
Click to expand...

So let's sum it up:
1. There's literally not one mention of 'Jerusalem' in the Quran
2. When regarding Jerusalem in Islamic commentary sources-
they transliterate it straight from Hebrew - בית מקדש 'Beit Mikdash'.
3. After the (short time) commandment to face Jerusalem in 610, there's still not 1 mosque in Palestine for another 100 years.

In comparison to the span of Jewish history in that land - Jerusalem became of any significance to Islam just 'a week ago'.
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1. Why should there be? The Quran was written well after Mohammed's death and by then Muslims were praying towards Mecca. Doesn't make Jerusalem any less revered by Muslims.
2. That's apparently what the city was called by Jewish people, so again, why shouldn't they?
3. The early Arab conquerors didn't need them, they either prayed in their camps or used Christian churches converted into temporary "mosques" for Muslim prayer, as it suited them.

As for "spans" of Jewish history, not so much; Judaism only became the dominant religion inthe area in the 2nd century BCE and even then it wasn't universally accepted by the population. The temple cult was destroyed by the Romans by the 2nd century CE, which left "rabbinic Judaism" scattered amongst various die-hard goups of religious fanatics and their converts throughout the Roman and Persian Empires until recent times so we're looking at a span of about 400 years where Judaism was "significant" in the region. Islam has been "significant" in the region for about 1300 years, so it's silly to try and use terms like "a week ago".
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Jerusalem became a place of pilgrimage as a substitute to Mecca, when the Muslims of Damascus were banned from the Hajj by the Caliph.
When Salah a-Din entered the Temple Mount with his Jew servant Yacub, the later took his shoes off. Yacub explained it was a sacred place, to which Salah a-Din ordered him to put them on back.

While Jerusalem has seen the faces of praying Jews throughout millenias, Muslims still show it their bottom in each of their services.



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rylah said:
Challenger said:
rylah said:
Challenger said:
rylah said:
montelatici said:
Look at all the Jews walking around in Ottoman Palestine.

View attachment 127779

Look at all the Jews inaugurating a new Ottoman hospital in a western suburb of Jerusalem

View attachment 127782

How did that mosque end up in the middle of Jaffa during Ottoman times? No Jews here either for some reason.

View attachment 127784
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montelatici said:
There were hundreds of mosques in what is now Israel. As far as Al Aqsa, built in 705 AD.


Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas, is the third holiest site in Sunni Islam and is located in the Old City of Jerusalem. Wikipedia

Address: Jerusalem
Opened: 705 AD
Minaret height: 121′ 0″

Give it up, you are trying to support Zionist propaganda, essentially lies.

:dig:
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"Al-Aqsa Mosque, also known as Al-Aqsa and Bayt al-Muqaddas"

The modern Arabic name of Jerusalem is القدس al-Quds ("The Holy One"), and its first recorded use can be traced to the 9th century CE, two hundred years after the Muslim conquest of the city. Prior to the use of the name al-Quds, the names used for Jerusalem were إيلياء Iliya (from the Latin name Aelia) and بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas from which the name al-Quds is derived.[32] The name بيت المقدس Bayt al-Maqdis, Bayt al-Muqaddas originates from the Hebrew name for the Temple, בית המקדש Beit Ha-Miqdash, both literally meaning "The House of the Holy".[33]

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Interesting reference; the same source states around 610CE, Mohammed commanded his followers to pray facing towards Jerusalem. The earliest recorded Arabic name for Jerusalem is "Madinat bayt a Maqdis" literally "City of the Temple"
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So let's sum it up:
1. There's literally not one mention of 'Jerusalem' in the Quran
2. When regarding Jerusalem in Islamic commentary sources-
they transliterate it straight from Hebrew - בית מקדש 'Beit Mikdash'.
3. After the (short time) commandment to face Jerusalem in 610, there's still not 1 mosque in Palestine for another 100 years.

In comparison to the span of Jewish history in that land - Jerusalem became of any significance to Islam just 'a week ago'.
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1. Why should there be? The Quran was written well after Mohammed's death and by then Muslims were praying towards Mecca. Doesn't make Jerusalem any less revered by Muslims.
2. That's apparently what the city was called by Jewish people, so again, why shouldn't they?
3. The early Arab conquerors didn't need them, they either prayed in their camps or used Christian churches converted into temporary "mosques" for Muslim prayer, as it suited them.

As for "spans" of Jewish history, not so much; Judaism only became the dominant religion inthe area in the 2nd century BCE and even then it wasn't universally accepted by the population. The temple cult was destroyed by the Romans by the 2nd century CE, which left "rabbinic Judaism" scattered amongst various die-hard goups of religious fanatics and their converts throughout the Roman and Persian Empires until recent times so we're looking at a span of about 400 years where Judaism was "significant" in the region. Islam has been "significant" in the region for about 1300 years, so it's silly to try and use terms like "a week ago".
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Jerusalem became a place of pilgrimage as a substitute to Mecca, when the Muslims of Damascus were banned from the Hajj by the Caliph.
When Salah a-Din entered the Temple Mount with his Jew servant Yacub, the later took his shoes off. Yacub explained it was a sacred place, to which Salah a-Din ordered him to put them on back.

While Jerusalem have seen the faces of praying Jews throughout millenias, Muslims still show it their bottom in each of their services.



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While Jerusalem have seen the faces of praying Muslims throughout millenias.
 
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