How Many Lies Did Obama Tell Tonight?

[Tom Sweetnam]

Almost every time he opened his mouth in the 2011 State of the Union Address, he was lying. How about this year?

Would you like to clarify that or continue to blow pixelated methane?

List them or just STFU.

They've already been listed in spades nitwit, especially by hipester924...in this same thread. Do you ever read through a thread, or do you just let your knees hit your chin arbitrarily?

 

[suplex3000]

Our self serving narcissist, little barry Hussein, is a serial liar. We have not stopped ISIS at all. They are advancing in Anbar province and are consolidating their gains in the North. After pulling all US troops out of Iraq in 2011, little barry has found himself in another box. He wants Assad out but won't do anything to oust him. He wants ISIS to go away, even though it is fighting to oust Assad, but he is too cowardly to press for a victory.
Little barry's policy can be described as "Slow Defeat" and he hopes to run out the clock before a possible adult takes over.

 

[Slyhunter]

He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.

He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

The fact that he couldn't energize voters on his side of the isle even with his free handouts is telling.

 

[AquaAthena]

Almost every time he opened his mouth in the 2011 State of the Union Address, he was lying. How about this year?

Tune into Bill O`Reilly, The Factor on Fox, in less than an hour and he will answer your question.

 

[Iceweasel]

Sounds like obama's balls were deflated and he was hoping to get a better grip.

 

[TooTall]

He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Yeah, obama is trying to work with Republicans until they agree with him. And he won the non-votes.

LOL

An example of Obama refusing to work with the right? There is a difference between trying to work with them and caving to their every demand.

Obama showed us his rapport with the opposition is nonexistent.

What did Bush do when Democrats cheered when he said privatization of Social Security failed? Did he

Bullshit. Democrats have refused to work with Republicans since 2000. They have been like an enemy among us doing everything they can to bring this country down in reality and in the eyes of the world. The latest example was Sen Dianne Feinstein badmouthing our intelligence agencies. There was no call for that. If anything, that stuff needs to be handled behind closed doors, not blasted to the whole planet.

And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway

Democrats have been specializing in proposals that a sane person would reject and then finding a way of making the GOP look bad in rejecting it. Immigration is a prime example.

So he asked for a solution from GOP. Got nothing.

He then went a did something a majority of Americans support.

Looks radical, but I suppose doing things people want is radical to the hard right.

The only thing he asks from the GOP is to kiss his ass.

After six years of trying to work with the childish, obstructionist GOP, I would have told them to kiss my ass long ago. If you don't want to work with him, then get out of the way because he has waited long enough and will just roll over any obstructions from now on.

That is exactly what a Dictator would do. Obama is not a Dictator, he is the President with two co-equal branches of government that he needs persuade that his policies are the correct ones for the country. Since he is unable or unwilling to use his power of persuasion, he will lose in the long term. What country do you live in?

 

[TooTall]

There is a problem with the OP headline is that it is crap.
FactChecking Obama 8217 s State of the Union

State of the Union 2015 Fact Check Obama s Rhetoric vs. Reality - ABC News

No angel but no dumping of lies... I suggest you look at your own great leaders on the right and compare them to Obama...

Tell me a right wing leader(with 10+ statements) who has a better Polifact record than Obama?

Which ones got the :"Lie of the Year" award?

 

[TooTall]

Cut out the parts of the speech I found were repetitive:

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

But a drop in average hourly earnings last month, after a healthy gain in November, sidetracked hopes that a tighter labor market was beginning to lead to broader wage gains.

Claim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

State and USAID: The FY 2014 civilian foreign assistance request of nearly $2.2 billion for Afghanistan

Claim: "Today, fewer than 15,000 remain"
Reality: Which is still boots on the ground. And keep in mind that the administration puts people in 'support roles' or training Afghan forces, which it doesn't count as boots on the ground.

Claim: "At this moment – with a growing economy"
Reality: Don't mention the middle class is not getting any richer: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html

“The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,” said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.” That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added.

Median per capita income was $18,700 in the United States in 2010 (which translates to about $75,000 for a family of four after taxes), up 20 percent since 1980 but virtually unchanged since 2000, after adjusting for inflation. The same measure, by comparison, rose about 20 percent in Britain between 2000 and 2010 and 14 percent in the Netherlands. Median income also rose 20 percent in Canada between 2000 and 2010, to the equivalent of $18,700.

Claim: "shrinking deficits"
Reality: Only for 2015 (-469), and it is expected to increase in 2016 (-556) onwards. So clearly a misrepresentation: An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office

Claim: "We believed we could reverse the tide of outsourcing"
Reality: It hasn't reversed: 2 000 jobs threatened as United mulls outsourcing at 28 U.S. airports - Fortune

United Airlines is assessing whether to outsource jobs at airports around the country in a cost-cutting effort that could affect some 2,000 workers.

Claim: "and draw new jobs to our shores."
Reality: Jobs that pay less than before the recession: Report New Jobs in U.S. Offer Lower Wages Than Before Recession - Businessweek

The recovery has been disappointing from the perspective of pay. From early 2010 through mid-2014, while the economy gained a little more than 9 million jobs, the fastest growth came in the low-paying accommodation and food sector; this year the average annual wages in the sector are just under $21,000.

Claim: "And over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs."
Reality: Which are only part-time, and can barely pay the bills: More Americans are stuck in part-time work - The Washington Post

But the spike in part-time work since the recession has been largely involuntary. These workers may have had their hours cut or are unable to find full-time jobs, earning them the official designation of “part-time for economic reasons.” In June, their ranks swelled by 275,000 to 7.5 million. In 2007, 4.4 million people fell into this category.

Claim: "And today, our younger students have earned the highest math and reading scores on record. Our high school graduation rate has hit an all-time high. And more Americans finish college than ever before."
Reality: According to the OECD, US graduation rates only grew by 7% in 2012, but the OECD average is 11%. 42% of 55-64 year old Americans have a university level education. It is 44% in Canada, 47% in Israel, and quite surprisingly 49% in Russia.

Claim: "We believed that sensible regulations could prevent another crisis"
Reality: Financial regulation has been cut in small pieces throughout 2009-2014: Financial crisis The banking rules that died by a thousand small cuts - Fortune

In fact, Congress recently weakened The Volcker Rule, which aimed to prohibit some forms of risky trading by banks. And now the Republican-controlled House and Senate vow to further roll back the Volcker Rule and other provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.

Claim: "shield families from ruin"
Reality: Millions of Americans would disagree who lost their homes, when Democrats had control and could have stopped it: 1.2 million households lost to recession - Business - Eye on the Economy NBC News

Brown represents one of the more than 1.2 million households lost to the recession, according to a report issued this week by the Mortgage Bankers Association that looked at data between 2005 and 2008. That number doesn’t include information from 2009, when job losses and foreclosures continued to rise.

So it's likely that the full impact of the 8.4 million jobs lost and nearly three million homes foreclosed on since the recession began has taken an even bigger toll on the number of American households.

Claim: "and encourage fair competition"
Reality: Would have to agree partly on this one as consumers seem to believe they are better off, but the net neutrality ruling would have many disagree:
At Last More Consumers Say They Are Better Off Than a Year Ago Than Worse Off - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Claim: "Today, we have new tools to stop taxpayer-funded bailouts"
Reality: The US budget did the reverse, and to think he claimed to be 'against it': Congressional budget welcomes big bank bailouts once more despite White House opposition Business The Guardian

The new budget provision once again acts as a promise that taxpayers will foot the bill for risky trading and speculation, Kelleher said.

“If things go wrong, [the banks] get to run to the Fed for bailouts. That’s incredibly valuable to them,” he said.

The surprise in the budget move is that everyone but banks considered the matter already settled.

The Dodd-Frank rule dictated that banks would have to find new homes for their risk-taking unit to prevent them from taking risks with customer deposits. Even so, mistakes occurred.

Claim: "And in the past year alone, about ten million uninsured Americans finally gained the security of health coverage."
Reality: Which was still substandard, and none of the major underlying issues with the healthcare system were fixed: Obamacare Good bad and ugly The Economist

But Obamacare tackled only half of the problem. American health care, warns Mr Brill, is still jeopardised by “the broken economics of the marketplace”. Doctors are rewarded for performing useless procedures, while insurers pay for as little as possible, and hospitals gouge those without coverage. The author has his own plan for reform that involves encouraging the country’s big health systems to expand and offer their own insurance. This, he writes, would eliminate the incentive for doctors and hospitals to run up costs (as they would be on the hook for them) and cut out the insurance-company middleman that wants to skimp on care.

Just the first two I found interesting so I'll quote them.

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

Our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999 and in your "reality" it mentions nothing about the pace of job creation HUH?

laim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

Our combat mission is over. In your "reality" it doesnt address the combat mission at all....?

It kinda goes on like that. I say I like Pie and your reality says "But you had cake once"

Because if you are creating millions of low paid part-time jobs, they might be 'jobs' but they are not a replacement for the high paid jobs lost in the recession.

By your logic if 11 million jobs were created cleaning toilets it is 'progress', even though half of that number might have been teachers, stock traders, computer programmers, and so on. Making more wage slaves is nothing to celebrate.

It isn't 'over' in Afghanistan, just like Iraq isn't 'over'. Combat operations are still happening, as well as training Afghans/Iraqis, and sorry but 15,000 troops does not equal zero, nor does 9000.

I agree and if Obama said that the jobs created were good replacements for high paying jobs you'd have a point. But he didnt.

I dontn know about the combat operations part..Links would be helpful showing that his statement was wrong but responding about "financial obligations" isnt addressing "combat operations"

Why didn't Obama say the jobs that were created were good replacements for high paying jobs?

When an American pilot flies over another country and drops a bomb that kills people, it is called a combat operation.

 

[hortysir]

How many times did he use the word AlQuada?

 

[BULLDOG]

He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Yeah, obama is trying to work with Republicans until they agree with him. And he won the non-votes.

LOL

An example of Obama refusing to work with the right? There is a difference between trying to work with them and caving to their every demand.

Obama showed us his rapport with the opposition is nonexistent.

What did Bush do when Democrats cheered when he said privatization of Social Security failed? Did he

And, in response, republicans have vowed to block the dems at every turn.
Just saying it has been tit for tat.
Repubs got the brunt of it for the last few years. Now it's the Dems' turn to see shit ran past them.
I hope The Obama uses veto power, just to see it go back and pass anyway

Democrats have been specializing in proposals that a sane person would reject and then finding a way of making the GOP look bad in rejecting it. Immigration is a prime example.

So he asked for a solution from GOP. Got nothing.

He then went a did something a majority of Americans support.

Looks radical, but I suppose doing things people want is radical to the hard right.

The only thing he asks from the GOP is to kiss his ass.

After six years of trying to work with the childish, obstructionist GOP, I would have told them to kiss my ass long ago. If you don't want to work with him, then get out of the way because he has waited long enough and will just roll over any obstructions from now on.

That is exactly what a Dictator would do. Obama is not a Dictator, he is the President with two co-equal branches of government that he needs persuade that his policies are the correct ones for the country. Since he is unable or unwilling to use his power of persuasion, he will lose in the long term. What country do you live in?

He is a president with a lot of constitutional authority he hasn't used yet. The disorganized whiney right wing can't even decide who they like in their own party.

 

[Iceweasel]

He is a president with a lot of constitutional authority he hasn't used yet. The disorganized whiney right wing can't even decide who they like in their own party.

You keep pounding that obama toy where it feels best. Live like there's no tomorrow!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Cut out the parts of the speech I found were repetitive:

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

But a drop in average hourly earnings last month, after a healthy gain in November, sidetracked hopes that a tighter labor market was beginning to lead to broader wage gains.

Claim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

State and USAID: The FY 2014 civilian foreign assistance request of nearly $2.2 billion for Afghanistan

Claim: "Today, fewer than 15,000 remain"
Reality: Which is still boots on the ground. And keep in mind that the administration puts people in 'support roles' or training Afghan forces, which it doesn't count as boots on the ground.

Claim: "At this moment – with a growing economy"
Reality: Don't mention the middle class is not getting any richer: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html

“The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,” said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.” That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added.

Median per capita income was $18,700 in the United States in 2010 (which translates to about $75,000 for a family of four after taxes), up 20 percent since 1980 but virtually unchanged since 2000, after adjusting for inflation. The same measure, by comparison, rose about 20 percent in Britain between 2000 and 2010 and 14 percent in the Netherlands. Median income also rose 20 percent in Canada between 2000 and 2010, to the equivalent of $18,700.

Claim: "shrinking deficits"
Reality: Only for 2015 (-469), and it is expected to increase in 2016 (-556) onwards. So clearly a misrepresentation: An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office

Claim: "We believed we could reverse the tide of outsourcing"
Reality: It hasn't reversed: 2 000 jobs threatened as United mulls outsourcing at 28 U.S. airports - Fortune

United Airlines is assessing whether to outsource jobs at airports around the country in a cost-cutting effort that could affect some 2,000 workers.

Claim: "and draw new jobs to our shores."
Reality: Jobs that pay less than before the recession: Report New Jobs in U.S. Offer Lower Wages Than Before Recession - Businessweek

The recovery has been disappointing from the perspective of pay. From early 2010 through mid-2014, while the economy gained a little more than 9 million jobs, the fastest growth came in the low-paying accommodation and food sector; this year the average annual wages in the sector are just under $21,000.

Claim: "And over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs."
Reality: Which are only part-time, and can barely pay the bills: More Americans are stuck in part-time work - The Washington Post

But the spike in part-time work since the recession has been largely involuntary. These workers may have had their hours cut or are unable to find full-time jobs, earning them the official designation of “part-time for economic reasons.” In June, their ranks swelled by 275,000 to 7.5 million. In 2007, 4.4 million people fell into this category.

Claim: "And today, our younger students have earned the highest math and reading scores on record. Our high school graduation rate has hit an all-time high. And more Americans finish college than ever before."
Reality: According to the OECD, US graduation rates only grew by 7% in 2012, but the OECD average is 11%. 42% of 55-64 year old Americans have a university level education. It is 44% in Canada, 47% in Israel, and quite surprisingly 49% in Russia.

Claim: "We believed that sensible regulations could prevent another crisis"
Reality: Financial regulation has been cut in small pieces throughout 2009-2014: Financial crisis The banking rules that died by a thousand small cuts - Fortune

In fact, Congress recently weakened The Volcker Rule, which aimed to prohibit some forms of risky trading by banks. And now the Republican-controlled House and Senate vow to further roll back the Volcker Rule and other provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.

Claim: "shield families from ruin"
Reality: Millions of Americans would disagree who lost their homes, when Democrats had control and could have stopped it: 1.2 million households lost to recession - Business - Eye on the Economy NBC News

Brown represents one of the more than 1.2 million households lost to the recession, according to a report issued this week by the Mortgage Bankers Association that looked at data between 2005 and 2008. That number doesn’t include information from 2009, when job losses and foreclosures continued to rise.

So it's likely that the full impact of the 8.4 million jobs lost and nearly three million homes foreclosed on since the recession began has taken an even bigger toll on the number of American households.

Claim: "and encourage fair competition"
Reality: Would have to agree partly on this one as consumers seem to believe they are better off, but the net neutrality ruling would have many disagree:
At Last More Consumers Say They Are Better Off Than a Year Ago Than Worse Off - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Claim: "Today, we have new tools to stop taxpayer-funded bailouts"
Reality: The US budget did the reverse, and to think he claimed to be 'against it': Congressional budget welcomes big bank bailouts once more despite White House opposition Business The Guardian

The new budget provision once again acts as a promise that taxpayers will foot the bill for risky trading and speculation, Kelleher said.

“If things go wrong, [the banks] get to run to the Fed for bailouts. That’s incredibly valuable to them,” he said.

The surprise in the budget move is that everyone but banks considered the matter already settled.

The Dodd-Frank rule dictated that banks would have to find new homes for their risk-taking unit to prevent them from taking risks with customer deposits. Even so, mistakes occurred.

Claim: "And in the past year alone, about ten million uninsured Americans finally gained the security of health coverage."
Reality: Which was still substandard, and none of the major underlying issues with the healthcare system were fixed: Obamacare Good bad and ugly The Economist

But Obamacare tackled only half of the problem. American health care, warns Mr Brill, is still jeopardised by “the broken economics of the marketplace”. Doctors are rewarded for performing useless procedures, while insurers pay for as little as possible, and hospitals gouge those without coverage. The author has his own plan for reform that involves encouraging the country’s big health systems to expand and offer their own insurance. This, he writes, would eliminate the incentive for doctors and hospitals to run up costs (as they would be on the hook for them) and cut out the insurance-company middleman that wants to skimp on care.

Just the first two I found interesting so I'll quote them.

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

Our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999 and in your "reality" it mentions nothing about the pace of job creation HUH?

laim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

Our combat mission is over. In your "reality" it doesnt address the combat mission at all....?

It kinda goes on like that. I say I like Pie and your reality says "But you had cake once"

Because if you are creating millions of low paid part-time jobs, they might be 'jobs' but they are not a replacement for the high paid jobs lost in the recession.

By your logic if 11 million jobs were created cleaning toilets it is 'progress', even though half of that number might have been teachers, stock traders, computer programmers, and so on. Making more wage slaves is nothing to celebrate.

It isn't 'over' in Afghanistan, just like Iraq isn't 'over'. Combat operations are still happening, as well as training Afghans/Iraqis, and sorry but 15,000 troops does not equal zero, nor does 9000.

I agree and if Obama said that the jobs created were good replacements for high paying jobs you'd have a point. But he didnt.

I dontn know about the combat operations part..Links would be helpful showing that his statement was wrong but responding about "financial obligations" isnt addressing "combat operations"

Why didn't Obama say the jobs that were created were good replacements for high paying jobs?

When an American pilot flies over another country and drops a bomb that kills people, it is called a combat operation.

Because that would be lying.

When people fight wars thats also called combat operations. What about it tho?

 

[mudwhistle]

Cut out the parts of the speech I found were repetitive:

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0
Claim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':
Claim: "Today, fewer than 15,000 remain"
Reality: Which is still boots on the ground. And keep in mind that the administration puts people in 'support roles' or training Afghan forces, which it doesn't count as boots on the ground.

Claim: "At this moment – with a growing economy"
Reality: Don't mention the middle class is not getting any richer: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
Claim: "shrinking deficits"
Reality: Only for 2015 (-469), and it is expected to increase in 2016 (-556) onwards. So clearly a misrepresentation: An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office

Claim: "We believed we could reverse the tide of outsourcing"
Reality: It hasn't reversed: 2 000 jobs threatened as United mulls outsourcing at 28 U.S. airports - Fortune
Claim: "and draw new jobs to our shores."
Reality: Jobs that pay less than before the recession: Report New Jobs in U.S. Offer Lower Wages Than Before Recession - Businessweek
Claim: "And over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs."
Reality: Which are only part-time, and can barely pay the bills: More Americans are stuck in part-time work - The Washington Post
Claim: "And today, our younger students have earned the highest math and reading scores on record. Our high school graduation rate has hit an all-time high. And more Americans finish college than ever before."
Reality: According to the OECD, US graduation rates only grew by 7% in 2012, but the OECD average is 11%. 42% of 55-64 year old Americans have a university level education. It is 44% in Canada, 47% in Israel, and quite surprisingly 49% in Russia.

Claim: "We believed that sensible regulations could prevent another crisis"
Reality: Financial regulation has been cut in small pieces throughout 2009-2014: Financial crisis The banking rules that died by a thousand small cuts - Fortune
Claim: "shield families from ruin"
Reality: Millions of Americans would disagree who lost their homes, when Democrats had control and could have stopped it: 1.2 million households lost to recession - Business - Eye on the Economy NBC News
Claim: "and encourage fair competition"
Reality: Would have to agree partly on this one as consumers seem to believe they are better off, but the net neutrality ruling would have many disagree:
At Last More Consumers Say They Are Better Off Than a Year Ago Than Worse Off - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Claim: "Today, we have new tools to stop taxpayer-funded bailouts"
Reality: The US budget did the reverse, and to think he claimed to be 'against it': Congressional budget welcomes big bank bailouts once more despite White House opposition Business The Guardian
Claim: "And in the past year alone, about ten million uninsured Americans finally gained the security of health coverage."
Reality: Which was still substandard, and none of the major underlying issues with the healthcare system were fixed: Obamacare Good bad and ugly The Economist

Just the first two I found interesting so I'll quote them.

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0

Our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999 and in your "reality" it mentions nothing about the pace of job creation HUH?

laim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':

Our combat mission is over. In your "reality" it doesnt address the combat mission at all....?

It kinda goes on like that. I say I like Pie and your reality says "But you had cake once"

Because if you are creating millions of low paid part-time jobs, they might be 'jobs' but they are not a replacement for the high paid jobs lost in the recession.

By your logic if 11 million jobs were created cleaning toilets it is 'progress', even though half of that number might have been teachers, stock traders, computer programmers, and so on. Making more wage slaves is nothing to celebrate.

It isn't 'over' in Afghanistan, just like Iraq isn't 'over'. Combat operations are still happening, as well as training Afghans/Iraqis, and sorry but 15,000 troops does not equal zero, nor does 9000.

I agree and if Obama said that the jobs created were good replacements for high paying jobs you'd have a point. But he didnt.

I dontn know about the combat operations part..Links would be helpful showing that his statement was wrong but responding about "financial obligations" isnt addressing "combat operations"

Why didn't Obama say the jobs that were created were good replacements for high paying jobs?

When an American pilot flies over another country and drops a bomb that kills people, it is called a combat operation.

Because that would be lying.

When people fight wars thats also called combat operations. What about it tho?

Combat operations process

Combat operations area-process is undertaken by armed forces during military campaigns, major operations, battles, and engagements to facilitate the setting of objectives, direction of combat, and assessment of the operation plan's success.

Combat operations process - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

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Now, you can claim that any operation that Obama conducts isn't intended to defeat the enemy. Merely to show that he is a good commander. Success isn't measured by the enemy being defeated. Success is measured by polling numbers.

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[ClosedCaption]

What about it? Was there something there that shows combat operations arent over or what?