How Many Lies Did Obama Tell Tonight?

He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Democrat base stayed home. And R's have only had the House for 4 years and Obama used Reid to block bills coming to the Senate floor.

Obama's legacy will be that he was President of only liberal America and not a President for all of America.

Sad.
 
Cut out the parts of the speech I found were repetitive:

Claim: "Tonight, after a breakthrough year for America, our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis."
Reality: Job growth is at the cost of lower wages, meaning that the jobs being created are low-wage jobs that aren't going to fix inequality or poverty: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/business/economy/jobs-unemployment-figures-december.html?_r=0
But a drop in average hourly earnings last month, after a healthy gain in November, sidetracked hopes that a tighter labor market was beginning to lead to broader wage gains.

Claim: "Tonight, for the first time since 9/11, our combat mission in Afghanistan is over."
Reality: The US still has financial obligations to Afghanistan - to the tune of billions of dollars a year, alongside training and whatever else the US decides to fund in Afghanistan. It is hardly 'over':
State and USAID: The FY 2014 civilian foreign assistance request of nearly $2.2 billion for Afghanistan
Claim: "Today, fewer than 15,000 remain"
Reality: Which is still boots on the ground. And keep in mind that the administration puts people in 'support roles' or training Afghan forces, which it doesn't count as boots on the ground.

Claim: "At this moment – with a growing economy"
Reality: Don't mention the middle class is not getting any richer: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
“The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,” said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.” That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added.

Median per capita income was $18,700 in the United States in 2010 (which translates to about $75,000 for a family of four after taxes), up 20 percent since 1980 but virtually unchanged since 2000, after adjusting for inflation. The same measure, by comparison, rose about 20 percent in Britain between 2000 and 2010 and 14 percent in the Netherlands. Median income also rose 20 percent in Canada between 2000 and 2010, to the equivalent of $18,700.

Claim: "shrinking deficits"
Reality: Only for 2015 (-469), and it is expected to increase in 2016 (-556) onwards. So clearly a misrepresentation: An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office

Claim: "We believed we could reverse the tide of outsourcing"
Reality: It hasn't reversed: 2 000 jobs threatened as United mulls outsourcing at 28 U.S. airports - Fortune
United Airlines is assessing whether to outsource jobs at airports around the country in a cost-cutting effort that could affect some 2,000 workers.

Claim: "and draw new jobs to our shores."
Reality: Jobs that pay less than before the recession: Report New Jobs in U.S. Offer Lower Wages Than Before Recession - Businessweek
The recovery has been disappointing from the perspective of pay. From early 2010 through mid-2014, while the economy gained a little more than 9 million jobs, the fastest growth came in the low-paying accommodation and food sector; this year the average annual wages in the sector are just under $21,000.

Claim: "And over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs."
Reality: Which are only part-time, and can barely pay the bills: More Americans are stuck in part-time work - The Washington Post
But the spike in part-time work since the recession has been largely involuntary. These workers may have had their hours cut or are unable to find full-time jobs, earning them the official designation of “part-time for economic reasons.” In June, their ranks swelled by 275,000 to 7.5 million. In 2007, 4.4 million people fell into this category.

Claim: "And today, our younger students have earned the highest math and reading scores on record. Our high school graduation rate has hit an all-time high. And more Americans finish college than ever before."
Reality: According to the OECD, US graduation rates only grew by 7% in 2012, but the OECD average is 11%. 42% of 55-64 year old Americans have a university level education. It is 44% in Canada, 47% in Israel, and quite surprisingly 49% in Russia.

Claim:
"We believed that sensible regulations could prevent another crisis"
Reality: Financial regulation has been cut in small pieces throughout 2009-2014: Financial crisis The banking rules that died by a thousand small cuts - Fortune
In fact, Congress recently weakened The Volcker Rule, which aimed to prohibit some forms of risky trading by banks. And now the Republican-controlled House and Senate vow to further roll back the Volcker Rule and other provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform.

Claim: "shield families from ruin"
Reality: Millions of Americans would disagree who lost their homes, when Democrats had control and could have stopped it: 1.2 million households lost to recession - Business - Eye on the Economy NBC News
Brown represents one of the more than 1.2 million households lost to the recession, according to a report issued this week by the Mortgage Bankers Association that looked at data between 2005 and 2008. That number doesn’t include information from 2009, when job losses and foreclosures continued to rise.

So it's likely that the full impact of the 8.4 million jobs lost and nearly three million homes foreclosed on since the recession began has taken an even bigger toll on the number of American households.

Claim: "and encourage fair competition"
Reality: Would have to agree partly on this one as consumers seem to believe they are better off, but the net neutrality ruling would have many disagree:
At Last More Consumers Say They Are Better Off Than a Year Ago Than Worse Off - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Claim: "Today, we have new tools to stop taxpayer-funded bailouts"
Reality: The US budget did the reverse, and to think he claimed to be 'against it': Congressional budget welcomes big bank bailouts once more despite White House opposition Business The Guardian
The new budget provision once again acts as a promise that taxpayers will foot the bill for risky trading and speculation, Kelleher said.

“If things go wrong, [the banks] get to run to the Fed for bailouts. That’s incredibly valuable to them,” he said.

The surprise in the budget move is that everyone but banks considered the matter already settled.

The Dodd-Frank rule dictated that banks would have to find new homes for their risk-taking unit to prevent them from taking risks with customer deposits. Even so, mistakes occurred.

Claim: "And in the past year alone, about ten million uninsured Americans finally gained the security of health coverage."
Reality: Which was still substandard, and none of the major underlying issues with the healthcare system were fixed: Obamacare Good bad and ugly The Economist
But Obamacare tackled only half of the problem. American health care, warns Mr Brill, is still jeopardised by “the broken economics of the marketplace”. Doctors are rewarded for performing useless procedures, while insurers pay for as little as possible, and hospitals gouge those without coverage. The author has his own plan for reform that involves encouraging the country’s big health systems to expand and offer their own insurance. This, he writes, would eliminate the incentive for doctors and hospitals to run up costs (as they would be on the hook for them) and cut out the insurance-company middleman that wants to skimp on care.
 
He has nothing to lose at this point i don't know why people act like he does. He Can basically do what he wants as this is his second term and Veto everything he disagrees with.

What he has to lose is his legacy. It's already tarnished. If he vetoes everything the duly elected representatives of the House and Senate send him he will see that legacy go up in flames.

Whether liberals like it or not, the mid terms were an overwhelming rejection of Obama's policies. President Clinton had the gravitas to understand that when it happened to him and he turned his whole Presidency around by working positively with Congress and the Senate.


He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.

Democrat base stayed home. And R's have only had the House for 4 years and Obama used Reid to block bills coming to the Senate floor.

Obama's legacy will be that he was President of only liberal America and not a President for all of America.

Sad.

I'm sure that's the way teabaggers will remember it. They have their imaginary story of how Reagan was too.
 
He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.


It means that people didn't support his agenda and did not go out and vote for more of it. Where were all his supporters?

Obama did not attempt to work with Republicans. He spent all the time bashing them. Reid blocked bills passed by the house and refused to call a vote on them in the senate. They all lied about Republicans having no ideas about healthcare or anything else. There were plenty that got completely ignored by the Dems.

In the speech, he seemed to be promising more free stuff and intends to go after the wealthy to pay for all of it. That never pans out, so here comes more debt.

He had the gall to act like he has helped the economy. It's the private sector responsible for the little improvement and that is despite Obama's attempts to go after the oil companies. Gas prices are low because of them, not him. He's already talking more gas taxes. Of course, the government dependents don't have to fill their tanks often to drive to work, so they probably don't care.
 
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He's been trying to work with them for six years. The election was only overwhelming if you don't consider the tiny number of people who voted. Not many more than you would expect in an election for Homecoming Queen.


It means that people didn't support his agenda and did not go out and vote for more of it. Where were all his supporters?

Obama did not attempt to work with Republicans. He spent all the time bashing them. Reid blocked bills passed by the house and refused to call a vote on them in the senate. They all lied about Republicans having no ideas about healthcare or anything else. There were plenty that got completely ignored by the Dems.

In the speech, he seemed to be promising more free stuff and intends to go after the wealthy to pay for all of it. That never pans out, so here comes more debt.

He had the gall to act like he has helped the economy. It's the private sector responsible for the little improvement and that is despite Obama's attempts to go after the oil companies. Gas prices are low because of them, not him. He's already talking more gas taxes. Of course, the government dependents don't have to fill their tanks often to drive to work, so they probably don't care.


You're full of shit. I keep hearing about free stuff. What free stuff? Republicans are the ones wanting a higher gas tax you dumbass.
Top Republican open to gas tax increase - Jan. 5 2015
 
LOL. So let's go back to those wonderful sunny days at the end of the Bush years when we all were enjoying the fantastic financial success that the Bush Policies had created for this nation. I am sure the GOP would love to replicate that astounding success.
 
LOL. So let's go back to those wonderful sunny days at the end of the Bush years when we all were enjoying the fantastic financial success that the Bush Policies had created for this nation. I am sure the GOP would love to replicate that astounding success.

The far left is trying their best to let 9/11 or worse happen again here, so you will get your wish, just keep voting far left and keep voting to support ISIS..
 
The far left is a secular progressive movement with destructive policies. Obama's statement that everyone must be equal (economically) is very concerning. Our society will never function the way he dreams.

Obama spoke like someone with no credibility left.

There is no way, most of his feel good crap ever sees the light of day

-Geaux
 

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