How long until we no longer have to wear masks?

When will we stop wearing masks?

  • 2021

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • 2022

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • 2023

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • 2024

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • NEVER - We are masks for LIFE

    Votes: 21 61.8%

  • Total voters
    34
Unless the mask is an N95, it provides little protection for the wearer.

This was a genuine 3M-branded N95 mask that I photographed and used to create this visualization. You're deceived if you believe that even an N95 will protect anyone from any virus.

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Democrats, true to their heritage, demand to do something so they FEEL BETTER.

From day one, I could not imagine how a cloth mask would do diddly-squat for a virus. A virus, as most people other than Democrats know is a minuscule fraction of the size of bacteria.

Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.


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Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.

Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.


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CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.

A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


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Difference between a virus and bacteria.


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1/25/2021 Masking the Science
[…]
In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer, but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.

We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol for virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.

[…]

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Old misinformation!

The Danes are in complete lockdown! I guess that non mask wearing they claim in your article, didn't work!

Now all is completely shut down but grocers.... k-4TH grade will finally be reopened this week.



Most any masks will block a significant amount of the virus being expel but they do not do as good a job blocking incoming virus particles because most of the masks do not fit tight enough and most masks are not made well enough.

The main reason masks work is because most of the virus when expelled rides on respiratory droplets which are far larger than the virus itself. They are simply caught in the mask when you exhale. How much is trapped by the mask depends on how it's made. A simple bandana will stop only about 20% of the droplets. A double layer surgical mask or double layer cloth mask will stop about 50% to 70%. An N95 mask will stop up to 95% of the particles with the added bonus that if properly fitted, it will stop most of incoming particles.

The likelihood that exposure to the virus will result in illness depend on how much of the virus you are exposed to (viral load). So if you are in a room with infected people and they are wearing double layer cloth masks, then virus in the room will be down 50% to 70% less than if they were not wearing the masks. Masks do work, but they're not perfect. Scientist say if everyone had an ample supply on N95 masks and wore them when they should, we would eliminate the virus in about a mouth.


Thank you for agreeing that cloth masks, serve no purpose other than the Democrats old stand by, IT FEELS GOOD!

You could have used a lot fewer words!

I don't call people stupid on this board, but your comments are really stupid. First, that is not what I said. Second, masks do serve a very usefully purpose. I suppose you think healthcare workers have been wearing masks in airborne epidemics for over a hundred years because it makes them feel good.

Would you agree that healthcare workers wear clean masks vs. most people who wear the same ones over and over again. I would guesstimate that only 20% wear clean masks all the time.

You are pointing out the reason why masks are a preventive measures and not a cure. I have 5 mask and change masks everyday and once a week throw them in the wash. I know people that wear a new disposable mask evetime they leave home and there are others that will never wear a mask unless forced to do.

The effectiveness of masks is very dependent on the culture. In Japan, mask wearing is very effective because people have worn masks for centuries to prevent the spread of their sickness to others. It's common to see Japanese wearing masks when they have a cold or any respiratory problem. Someone showing up to work coughing without mask is likely to be sent home. It is simple considered unexceptable. There wiliness to wear masks has certainly proved their effectiveness. There have been about 6,000 covid-19 deaths over the last year where the US has more than that in single week. When the Japanese Prime Minster announced the need for precautions when the virus spread outside of China, he did not even need to mention masks. The next day, millions of people were wearing masks. Masks have played a part in Japanese life for centuries. They're used by actors in performances, in religious ceremonies, and children use them in play. By contrast, in America we identify the wearing of masks as a cowardly act, used by bandits and people who want to hide their face for various reasons.
 
Democrats, true to their heritage, demand to do something so they FEEL BETTER.

From day one, I could not imagine how a cloth mask would do diddly-squat for a virus. A virus, as most people other than Democrats know is a minuscule fraction of the size of bacteria.

Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.


###

Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.

Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.


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CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.

A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


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Difference between a virus and bacteria.


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1/25/2021 Masking the Science
[…]
In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer, but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.

We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol for virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.

[…]

Post | efmproject

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:lol:

Old misinformation!

The Danes are in complete lockdown! I guess that non mask wearing they claim in your article, didn't work!

Now all is completely shut down but grocers.... k-4TH grade will finally be reopened this week.



Most any masks will block a significant amount of the virus being expel but they do not do as good a job blocking incoming virus particles because most of the masks do not fit tight enough and most masks are not made well enough.

The main reason masks work is because most of the virus when expelled rides on respiratory droplets which are far larger than the virus itself. They are simply caught in the mask when you exhale. How much is trapped by the mask depends on how it's made. A simple bandana will stop only about 20% of the droplets. A double layer surgical mask or double layer cloth mask will stop about 50% to 70%. An N95 mask will stop up to 95% of the particles with the added bonus that if properly fitted, it will stop most of incoming particles.

The likelihood that exposure to the virus will result in illness depend on how much of the virus you are exposed to (viral load). So if you are in a room with infected people and they are wearing double layer cloth masks, then virus in the room will be down 50% to 70% less than if they were not wearing the masks. Masks do work, but they're not perfect. Scientist say if everyone had an ample supply on N95 masks and wore them when they should, we would eliminate the virus in about a mouth.


Thank you for agreeing that cloth masks, serve no purpose other than the Democrats old stand by, IT FEELS GOOD!

You could have used a lot fewer words!

I don't call people stupid on this board, but your comments are really stupid. First, that is not what I said. Second, masks do serve a very usefully purpose. I suppose you think healthcare workers have been wearing masks in airborne epidemics for over a hundred years because it makes them feel good.

Would you agree that healthcare workers wear clean masks vs. most people who wear the same ones over and over again. I would guesstimate that only 20% wear clean masks all the time.

You are pointing out the reason why masks are a preventive measures and not a cure. I have 5 mask and change masks everyday and once a week throw them in the wash. I know people that wear a new disposable mask evetime they leave home and there are others that will never wear a mask unless forced to do.

The effectiveness of masks is very dependent on the culture. In Japan, mask wearing is very effective because people have worn masks for centuries to prevent the spread of their sickness to others. It's common to see Japanese wearing masks when they have a cold or any respiratory problem. Someone showing up to work coughing without mask is likely to be sent home. It is simple considered unexceptable. There wiliness to wear masks has certainly proved their effectiveness. There have been about 6,000 covid-19 deaths over the last year where the US has more than that in single week. When the Japanese Prime Minster announced the need for precautions when the virus spread outside of China, he did not even need to mention masks. The next day, millions of people were wearing masks. Masks have played a part in Japanese life for centuries. They're used by actors in performances, in religious ceremonies, and children use them in play. By contrast, in America we identify the wearing of masks as a cowardly act, used by bandits and people who want to hide their face for various reasons.

So do you believe most Americans are as responsible as you are in terms of mask washing, etc. I didn't ask for a long diatribe, I asked for a response to that question. Until COVID-19 we didn't wear masks and were perfectly fine. This isn't Japan.
 
Unless the mask is an N95, it provides little protection for the wearer.

This was a genuine 3M-branded N95 mask that I photographed and used to create this visualization. You're deceived if you believe that even an N95 will protect anyone from any virus.

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You are ignoring the fact that the primary means of transmission of the virus is on large respiratory droplets that are huge compared to the size of a virus particle. Most airborne viruses are not transmitted as an aerosol. They ride on large repertory droplets. N95 masks are very effective at stopping this transmission. This is why N95 masks are used now and have been used for many years by doctors and nurses working with very contagious patents.
 
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Well first of all it's not really a vaccine. But yes, you are correct I won't be getting the experimental mRNA in me even if they make it mandatory. It will be over my dead body.

Well, that works for me, whatever floats your boat. Give it to someone who has an IQ above room temperature.
 
Democrats, true to their heritage, demand to do something so they FEEL BETTER.

From day one, I could not imagine how a cloth mask would do diddly-squat for a virus. A virus, as most people other than Democrats know is a minuscule fraction of the size of bacteria.

Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.


###

Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.

Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.


###

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.

A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


###

Difference between a virus and bacteria.


###

1/25/2021 Masking the Science
[…]
In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer, but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.

We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol for virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.

[…]

Post | efmproject

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:lol:

Old misinformation!

The Danes are in complete lockdown! I guess that non mask wearing they claim in your article, didn't work!

Now all is completely shut down but grocers.... k-4TH grade will finally be reopened this week.


Denmark has a 1.1% mortality rate among the best on the globe.
 
My doctor said about 4 months ago that her guess was Spring to Summer of 2022.
Why are you asking a doctor about something that is political?
Viruses are a medical issue. Dealing with an epidemic is political. The culture and the politics of a country are a major facture in controlling an epidemic. This is why the US with only 4% of the world's population and the best prepared healthcare system in the world has 20% of the deaths.
 
the CDC has made it quite clear that masks help prevent the spread of the the virus by blocking expelled droplets which is the primary means of transmission.
Which is why they should be worn by the sick not the healthy.
 
My doctor said about 4 months ago that her guess was Spring to Summer of 2022.
Why are you asking a doctor about something that is political?
Viruses are a medical issue. Dealing with an epidemic is political. The culture and the politics of a country are a major facture in controlling an epidemic. This is why the US with only 4% of the world's population and the best prepared healthcare system in the world has 20% of the deaths.
Hmmm that's not the ONLY reason now come on....we are 20th on the planet in testing per capita and therefore 7th in cases per capita. Our high level of testing gives us more cases and more resulting deaths...10th per capita which is in line with our other metrics. If you don't test, fewer cases and fewer deaths.
 
Democrats, true to their heritage, demand to do something so they FEEL BETTER.

From day one, I could not imagine how a cloth mask would do diddly-squat for a virus. A virus, as most people other than Democrats know is a minuscule fraction of the size of bacteria.

Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.


###

Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.

Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.


###

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.

A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


###

Difference between a virus and bacteria.


###

1/25/2021 Masking the Science
[…]
In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer, but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.

We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol for virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.

[…]

Post | efmproject

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Wearing a masks is a sign of virtue-signaling by Democrats and a sign of conformity for the unwashed masses.

Where in the world, and how do you guys even come up with this kind of bizarre crap? :cuckoo:


What's bizarre is that your far-left leaders have convinced you that a cloth mask will any effect, whatsoever, to stop a virus. Do you even know the difference between a virus and bacteria?

Difference between a virus and bacteria

As I have pointed out, a mask is not to stop the virus, but to slow the chances of spreading it, when coupled with 6ft of separation and constant hand washing or sanitizing.

And the funny gobbledygook about a mask is some secret plan for gvt to control us is just bat shit crazy! Imo


Masks doesn't stop transmission, that is what you ignore over and over.

According to who? You? And your sources?

It does help reduce transmission according to most experts
in the know,

and like hell would I take a chance and choose not to wear a mask if there was a chance that the mask captures some of the viral load coming out of my mouth and nose if I were infected, which could infect or kill one less person....

Wear a 3 ply mask, stop trying to kill more people with your whacky opinions just to cause political hay.


You have terrible memory since I posted a lot of mask studies last year here, they ALL say the same thing, it doesn't stop transmission, heck YOU admit masks don't stop transmission either. :laugh:

Transmission rate from 100% no mask drops to 50-75% by wearing masks is a massive failure, that is the reality you ignore over and over. The chance of infection remains the same, whether you wear one or not.
 
According to who? You? And your sources?

It does help reduce transmission according to most experts
in the know,

and like hell would I take a chance and choose not to wear a mask if there was a chance that the mask captures some of the viral load coming out of my mouth and nose if I were infected, which could infect or kill one less person....

Wear a 3 ply mask, stop trying to kill more people with your whacky opinions just to cause political hay.

I provided you with reliable sources along with working links. If you FEEL GOOD wearing a mask, go for it! It won't protect you from catching the virus from someone else and it won't protect anyone else from getting it from you. But hey, whatever floats your boat!
 
My doctor said about 4 months ago that her guess was Spring to Summer of 2022.
Why are you asking a doctor about something that is political?
Viruses are a medical issue. Dealing with an epidemic is political. The culture and the politics of a country are a major facture in controlling an epidemic. This is why the US with only 4% of the world's population and the best prepared healthcare system in the world has 20% of the deaths.
Yet we are also the fattest country and COVID-19 kills those who have a BMI of 20+ at a significantly higher rate. Why do you ignore that fact?
 
You are ignoring the fact that the primary means of transmission of the virus is on large respiratory droplets that are huge compared to the size of a virus particle. Most airborne virus are not transmitted as an aerosol. They ride on large repertory droplets. N95 masks are very effective at stopping transmission. This is why N95 masks are used now and have been used for many years by doctors and nurses working with very contagious patents.

No, YOU are ignoring the fact that masks are totally ineffective in slowing the transmission of the virus. What part do you not grasp?

As you know too, very few, if anyone, have N95 masks. They are far more expensive than the millions of masks being used by the general public.

I provided several articles, from very reliable sources, stating the ineffectiveness of the masks in use on the streets today. Wouldn't you fare better by accepting the facts?
 
This is why the US with only 4% of the world's population and the best prepared healthcare system in the world has 20% of the deaths.
Wrong this is why the US with only 4% of the world's population and the best prepared healthcare system in the world has 20% of the deaths. Because the CDC has been lying about the number of Covid deaths. As the number of covid deaths went up the number of deaths by heart attack, stroke and even the common flu have decreased dramatically. The CDC has no distinction between dying WITH Covid and dying because of Covid.
 
Democrats, true to their heritage, demand to do something so they FEEL BETTER.

From day one, I could not imagine how a cloth mask would do diddly-squat for a virus. A virus, as most people other than Democrats know is a minuscule fraction of the size of bacteria.

Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.


###

Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020

Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.

Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.


###

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.

A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


###

Difference between a virus and bacteria.


###

1/25/2021 Masking the Science
[…]
In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer, but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.

We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol for virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.

[…]

Post | efmproject

###

:lol:

Old misinformation!

The Danes are in complete lockdown! I guess that non mask wearing they claim in your article, didn't work!

Now all is completely shut down but grocers.... k-4TH grade will finally be reopened this week.


Denmark has a 1.1% mortality rate among the best on the globe.


Denmark, Denmark? The COUNTRY of Denmark has a population of about half that of New York City.

RACE FOR A CURE
FEBRUARY 10, 2021 8:51 AM UPDATED 7 HOURS AGO
Denmark says cases of more contagious British coronavirus variant on rise
By Reuters Staff

COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - The share of people infected with the more contagious coronavirus variant first identified in Britain is on the rise in Denmark, authorities reported on Wednesday, citing preliminary data.

In the first week of February, 27% of positive cases analyzed for their genetic material were carrying the B117 variant, up from 20% the week before, the State Serum Institute (SSI) said in a report.

 
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