How Liberals Debate

[red states rule]

Over the last several days, I have noticed a pattern among the lefties in their debate tactics.

After doing some research I have found the debate tactics libs use when confronting those who disagree with them

Here is a list of tactics liberals use to debate. Ready them. Study them. Be ready the next time you debate a liberal


1. Avoid factual arguments, they're usually against you anyway.

2. If for some obscure reason the facts actually fall your way (an extremely rare occurrence) then repeat them endlessly regardless of the reply of your conservative opponent. Remember time is limited, use this against him.

3. Get as personal and vicious as you can, maybe it will distract your opponent from his train of thought.

4. If you are unable to insult him with the usual insults such as 'racist', 'homophobe', or 'bigot', then insult someone else on his side (someone related to the subject under discussion is preferable but not required).

5. When you're losing, and you usually will be, abruptly change the subject. Again the object of this is to distract and deflect attention from your opponent's argument.

6. Talk loudly and rapidly, don't allow your opponent to get a word in. Remember the more time you consume, the less time your opponent will have.

7. Use hyperbole as an example of your opponent's argument and suggest that that is what they are suggesting.

8. Purposely misunderstand what is being said by your opponent and distort it into something you can use.

9. Make up 'facts' most people don't check them and anyway, you'll be long gone by the time the truth is known, and so will the audience.

10. Expect perfection. Focus on the slightest flaw in your opponent's argument, any kind of mistake, grammatical, spelling, contextual, anything no matter how slight is sufficient to deflect attention away from how vacuous your arguments are.

11. Act insulted. Take umbrage at the slightest contradiction and act as if it is a personal insult. This will make your personal attack seem warranted and just.

12. Mug the camera or audience while your opponent is speaking, make faces, sneering is good, head-shaking better, and looking toward the ceiling is best [notice the avoidance of the word Heaven, Liberals avoid words of a religious nature WM]. Let the audience know you disagree with your opponent (even if you’ve no idea what he’s saying)

13. Use condescending laughter as much as you can. It serves two purposes, first, it dismisses your opponent as being unworthy of your respect and second, it shows your contempt for his arguments. This is a very powerful tool and can really annoy your opponent and disrupt his train of thought.

14. You’re an arrogant Liberal; demonstrate your obvious intellectual superiority by acting in a condescending manner.

15. Forget how many of the wealthiest in this nation are Liberals, always beat the drum of “Rich Republicans” and “working class Democrats.”

16. Finally, always remember style trumps substance. Know it, Live it.
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http://mongomutter.blogspot.com/2005...from-will.html
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[red states rule]

First, when you debate a liberal, you have to realize something: you’re not going to “win.” Sure, you will have common sense, experience, facts, realistic knowledge, and the very universe in your favor, but that won’t be enough. You see, in order to “win” an argument against a liberal, a liberal has to have the capacity to learn. And a liberal that can learn is a rare thing, indeed. You’ve heard it said “if you’re not a liberal at 16 you don’t have a heart, and if you’re not a conservative at 30, you don’t have a brain.” That’s because liberals tend to “reason” with emotion, like teenagers, while conservatives have learned life lessons and don’t perpetually wear rose-colored glasses all their lives.

So, when arguing with a liberal, the best you can hope for is that a third party reading the debate will look at the differences between you and the liberal and will wise up and join the right side, and that’s not the left.

During the debate, however, you’ll no doubt ru n into many of the same characteristics others have seen, depending on how long the debate is. Many of these I’ve had the amusing pleasure to see here at Blogster, so there are readily available examples around.

But, you have to be prepared. Here’s a short list of what you should bring with you to a debate:

1) Waders. With liberals, the BS can get awfully deep. The more they talk, the deeper it gets, and they hope to drown their opponents in a sea of sh*t. Come prepared.

2) A pillow or cushion. In a long debate with a liberal, there will be many opportunities to bang your head into something hard as you see your words twisted to mean something else, then attacked. If you type something like “abortions hurt women, and that’s wrong,” and see the liberal reply with “oh, so you’re saying abortions should be illegal because you think raping and incest are just fine and dandy, huh, racist??!!” you may be tempted to run your head into the nearest set of bricks. It’s n atural. Being frustrated with arrogant stupidity is something everyone with a brain cell has to endure at times. Just make sure your pillow is nice and soft and you should make it through. Liberals tend to purposely twist words into other meanings so that they can argue against those new meanings. It’s far easier for them than actually debating what you said.

3) A copy of 1984. At some point, if you suggest any limit on any activity liberals like (except campaign contributions to Democrats), you will be compared to something in 1984. I think this is the only book liberals have ever read, and that’s because the title doesn’t have any words in it. As such, despite the fact that they act more like the government in the book, they like accusing their opponents of such behaviors. A Christian meekly stating his view that homosexuals shouldn’t marry is a member of the “thought polic e,” and everything Bush does us leading us down the path in 1984. On a side note, they may refer to you as a Nazi as well, as in “so you think parents are actually responsible for how they raise their kids? You NAZI from 1984!!” (It doesn’t matter that Nazis weren’t in 1984…a liberal’s grip on reality is tenuous at best, so cut ‘em some slack.)

4) Prepare beforehand. In order to desensitize yourself to a debate with a liberal, you will have to request the assistance of a friend. Have your friend come over before you reply or start a debate, and have him spend no less than one hour screaming obscenities at you. This will ready you for a typical liberal “dialogue” once they are backed into an intellectual corner (which doesn’t take long). If you want to be really prepared, have your friend repeatedly call you the following: bigot, racist, homophobe, islamophobe, war-mongerer, redneck, close-minded, intolerant, and fascist. These make up the core of liberal arguments, even if u sed improperly. “You conservatives! You’re always wanting people to have to take responsibility for themselves! Homophobes!” Or, “you don’t think Ann Coulter’s latest book should be banned? Racist!!” You get the idea…

5) A scorecard. Just for fun, you may want to write down how often the liberal you’re debating calls you any of the names listed above, or worse. It’s amusing to see how many times a “tolerant,” “open-minded” liberal can use the word bigot or Islamophobe in a debate about school choice. Heck, a liberal could use the word “racist” fifteen times just ordering lunch.

6) A neck brace. If you’re not careful, you could end up with whiplash trying to follow the speedy zips and flips a liberal uses to avoid being pinned down when he knows he’s losing. You think certain cockroaches speed around trying to avoid being caught? Try watching a liberal with nothing he can say. In one sentence he’s arguing against something you didn’t even say, and in the next calling your parentage into question while screaming about how great Clinton was and why you’re a redneck Nazi homophobe for wanting to let Americans vote on abortion. Even quoting a liberal and replying directly to that quote doesn’t help. Apparently, they don’t see what they’ve written afterwards. Selective blindness seems to inflict liberals at a nearly 100% rate. Someone should collect donations to have scientists try to cure it.

7) Another friend. You’ll need someone you can trust to be there with you during some of the longer debates with liberals. This friend should never, under any circumstances, read or listen to the liberal you’re debating. His entire job is just to be there to jump-start your brain when it locks up, stunned into unresponsiveness by the sheer depths of stupidity that the liberal spews out. As a reasonable, thinking person, you may not be prepared to deal wit h the intellectual black-hole that a liberal can create when they convince themselves of their arguments to the point where they mentally implode and their minds and words become intellectual vacuums. Reading or hearing this level of liberalism can jeopardize your mental capacity, so when your friend sees your eyes glaze over, a trickle of drool coming out of your mouth, and you don’t coherently respond to external stimuli (in essence, you “become” a liberal), he has to be there to start reading to you. Any book above a second grade level should be enough to snap you out of it, seeing as how even that is light-years beyond ultimate liberalism, but the higher the grade, the better. Just don’t use that copy of 1984, or you may find yourself imaging yourself as a Nazi, in keeping with the liberal thought-pattern. In a spot, even “Dick and Jane” will work, but someone has to be there to read it to you.

8) Another cushion. If you’re sitting at a desk, it would be a good idea to p ut something under your chin, so that when it drops it doesn’t strike the desk and cause pain. This often happens when a conservative sees a liberal accuse him of something that liberals do. A liberal may complain about a person saying something at a graduation ceremony, for example, and states that the person should never have spoken. But, when you reply that they had that right, the liberal can come back with “you conservatives just want to stifle free speech for everyone but who you agree with!” (Usually followed by either “racist,” or “homophobe,” generally.) Having your chin drop all the way into your crotch after reading something this inane not only dries out your mouth, but also can leave you stunned until the pain in your groin fades away. Sometimes, the liberal may say something like this but combine it with Ultimate Liberalism, and leave you writhing on the floor a drooling, slobbering mess. So make sure your friend reads to you and gets you some ice. Or better yet, just have two cushions in advance, and save yourself a little pain.

I hope this helps some people, especially those conservatives who are yet unfamiliar with what can happen when debating a liberal. And here at Blogster, there’s no lack of liberals to practice on, and just be sure to be prepared.

 

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[Gurdari]

See? We're all the same deep down!
Awesome post...

 

[wiggles]

Thhis thread should be moved to the Humor section.
There's certainly nothing in here about Politics.

 

[Vintij]

This was pretty funny. Though it is too sarcastic to be in the humor thread, only idiots go there, and they want stupid funny.

Question. If your both a liberal and a conservative, yet an anti liberal and an anti conservative. Does this make you a moderate?

 

[wiggles]

It's plenty stupid for idiots.

 

[maineman]

it is the same tired old cut and paste that this moron has given us before. He is incapable of ever stringing more than four words together of his own selection to convey his OWN thoughts or ideas and now, he can't even find any NEW cut and paste words from someone else and has resorted to repeating his cut and paste posts. This is pathetic, but I have long since given up on expecting anything of substance from this guy.

ho hum

 

[red states rule]

it is the same tired old cut and paste that this moron has given us before. He is incapable of ever stringing more than four words together of his own selection to convey his OWN thoughts or ideas and now, he can't even find any NEW cut and paste words from someone else and has resorted to repeating his cut and paste posts. This is pathetic, but I have long since given up on expecting anything of substance from this guy.

ho hum

Translation - he described me and my debate style perfectly

 

[maineman]

Translation - he described me and my debate style perfectly

translation: YOU didn't describe anything...you merely cut and pasted words from a source from which you had previously cut and pasted because you, yourself, are incapable of composing any original thought.

 

[red states rule]

translation: YOU didn't describe anything...you merely cut and pasted words from a source from which you had previously cut and pasted because you, yourself, are incapable of composing any original thought.

I see you still parrot the same old tried wornout dog eared talking points from your old wornout dog eared liberal playbook

This thread nails you perfectly. From your typical responses, to your arrogrant over bearing attitude

 

[Bullypulpit]

Over the last several days, I have noticed a pattern among the lefties in their debate tactics.

After doing some research I have found the debate tactics libs use when confronting those who disagree with them

Here is a list of tactics liberals use to debate. Ready them. Study them. Be ready the next time you debate a liberal


1. Avoid factual arguments, they're usually against you anyway.

2. If for some obscure reason the facts actually fall your way (an extremely rare occurrence) then repeat them endlessly regardless of the reply of your conservative opponent. Remember time is limited, use this against him.

3. Get as personal and vicious as you can, maybe it will distract your opponent from his train of thought.

4. If you are unable to insult him with the usual insults such as 'racist', 'homophobe', or 'bigot', then insult someone else on his side (someone related to the subject under discussion is preferable but not required).

5. When you're losing, and you usually will be, abruptly change the subject. Again the object of this is to distract and deflect attention from your opponent's argument.

6. Talk loudly and rapidly, don't allow your opponent to get a word in. Remember the more time you consume, the less time your opponent will have.

7. Use hyperbole as an example of your opponent's argument and suggest that that is what they are suggesting.

8. Purposely misunderstand what is being said by your opponent and distort it into something you can use.

9. Make up 'facts' most people don't check them and anyway, you'll be long gone by the time the truth is known, and so will the audience.

10. Expect perfection. Focus on the slightest flaw in your opponent's argument, any kind of mistake, grammatical, spelling, contextual, anything no matter how slight is sufficient to deflect attention away from how vacuous your arguments are.

11. Act insulted. Take umbrage at the slightest contradiction and act as if it is a personal insult. This will make your personal attack seem warranted and just.

12. Mug the camera or audience while your opponent is speaking, make faces, sneering is good, head-shaking better, and looking toward the ceiling is best [notice the avoidance of the word Heaven, Liberals avoid words of a religious nature WM]. Let the audience know you disagree with your opponent (even if you’ve no idea what he’s saying)

13. Use condescending laughter as much as you can. It serves two purposes, first, it dismisses your opponent as being unworthy of your respect and second, it shows your contempt for his arguments. This is a very powerful tool and can really annoy your opponent and disrupt his train of thought.

14. You’re an arrogant Liberal; demonstrate your obvious intellectual superiority by acting in a condescending manner.

15. Forget how many of the wealthiest in this nation are Liberals, always beat the drum of “Rich Republicans” and “working class Democrats.”

16. Finally, always remember style trumps substance. Know it, Live it.
"

http://mongomutter.blogspot.com/2005...from-will.html
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More from the king of cut-and-paste. Having debated you, several times, and having presented links to support my arguments, you consistently failed to make any cogent arguments to refute my assertions and your responses were little more than cut-and-pasted patchworks from right wing blogs.

Your post is no more than the pot trying to call the kettle black.

 

[red states rule]

Yes you have debated - like a typical liberal. You insult, smear, and attack.

It is so typical of the moonbat left to attack an opponent when he/she posts articals that back up their position.

For someone you hold in such low esteem - you do respond frequently to my posts

 

[CTRLALTDEL]

One thing RedStates does well is PARROT all the talking points of his fellow right wing parrots. No original thought, just cut & paste. People like him were not trained to THINK. They were trained to LISTEN AND REPEAT.......just like PARROTS.

 

[red states rule]

One thing RedStates does well is PARROT all the talking points of his fellow right wing parrots. No original thought, just cut & paste. People like him were not trained to THINK. They were trained to LISTEN AND REPEAT.......just like PARROTS.

One thing libs do well is not to address the valid points in articles but to rant when you post any articles that exposes them to the light of day

Liberal debate tactics 1 and 16

 

[wiggles]

It's not an article, it's an editorial. It doesn't substantiate any points, it only asserts them. And they're subjective points at that. Anyone can do that.

Puppies are ugly. There. I've made a valid point. Prove that puppies aren't ugly.

 

[red states rule]

It's not an article, it's an editorial. It doesn't substantiate any points, it only asserts them. And they're subjective points at that. Anyone can do that.

Puppies are ugly. There. I've made a valid point. Prove that puppies aren't ugly.

It is a very good article on how most liberals debate.

 

[wiggles]

It is a very good article on how most liberals debate.

Again with the subjective assertions. Your bread and butter.

 

[red states rule]

Again with the subjective assertions. Your bread and butter.

No facts. Libs usually have to fall back on insults, changing the subject, and personal attacks since the facts seldom go there way.

Most libs will act insulted and play the victim card when the going gets tough

The list is a very good account on how libs debate

 

[wiggles]

No facts. Libs usually have to fall back on insults, changing the subject, and personal attacks since the facts seldom go there way.

That that "article" is "good" is your personal opinion, which is subjective. That is a fact.

Most libs will act insulted and play the victim card when the going gets tough.

Is that supposed to be one of your "facts?" What have you conducted a double-blind survey of a broad-based random sample or something? Who's insulted anyway? I don't care what your opinion is, I'm just pointing out the glaring flaws in your logic and the simple fact that subjective opinions are not facts. Sorry, but that's fair game when you start a thread about debate tactics.

The list is a very good account on how libs debate

You said that already. Saying something over and over doesn't magically make it true.