How Jesus became god'... from not being one. Bart Ehrman.

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way, my dear. :)
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way, my dear. :)
thanks so much, darling
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way, my dear. :)
thanks so much, darling
Anytime, sweetie.
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way, my dear. :)
thanks so much, darling
Anytime, sweetie.
no thanks, I AM NOT AVAILABLE
So glad that has been settled. :lol:
^^^^^^^^
dingy thinks he scored a GOTCHYA
 

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You guys are so easy.
do you stand in the street lots with other people like
you, dingy?
Yes, if it was up to me you guys would have been made into lampshades. :rolleyes:
If it was up to me you'd be banned for being a one-line TROLL, not for any opinion.

You are just too stupid and childish to make any real contribution to this or any other mb.
`
You'd have a better chance of that if you didn't encourage it be entering into even more off topic conversation, dummy.
chance of what, dingy.? Yet another personal anecdote. LONG LONG ago when I was in high
school, the brilliant principal decided to lock
the girls' lavatories to avoid the incessant HANGING
OUT TO SMOKE going on. My issue for entering
into those havens for bitchy sluts was always
"urgency". Those ladies also liked to play
GOTCHYA with -----girls like me, just as you, dingy,
do
You actually have to read the chain to understand what is going on, Rosie. I can't keep explaining everything for you.

But you keep on kidding yourself that you aren't playing the GOTCHYA game :rolleyes:
there was a time when you could explain things?
I do not play your and their GOTCHA game---my
only reason for venturing into the high school
girls' lavatory was actually URGENCY. I never cherry
picked at the media records for the purposes of propaganda, either. BUT I LEARNED the technique from those little magazines. And I learned WHO
does it
I still can, not that you would ever credit me for it.

And you most certainly do play the GOTCHA game. You can't see it because you have too high of an opinion of yourself.
ok-----that is your opinion----back it with EXAMPLES.
Your idiot foray into ' DA JOOOOS invented pornography ' with examples of JOOISH
PORNOGRAPHERS is a prime example of classical
islamo-nazi bullshit "GOTCHYA" Your literature
is chock full of it and cult legacy is chock full of it
You want me to go back through your posts where you have made snide remarks intended to tweak the person you are "debating" with? Sorry, I don't care enough to do that. I am more than happy for you to be blind. Besides, you'd just rationalize away every example I brought up.

I already told you I did it to tweak you. But sure, your people have done some pretty shitty things. Everyone's people has. You'd do well to remember that you live in a glass house before throwing your stones.
got it----you are stymied again
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way, my dear. :)
thanks so much, darling
Anytime, sweetie.
no thanks, I AM NOT AVAILABLE
So glad that has been settled. :lol:
^^^^^^^^
dingy thinks he scored a GOTCHYA
What am I thinking now :rolleyes:
 
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What am I thinking now :rolleyes:
95% of your posts are one-line trolls.
You have NO content, no ability to debate anything.
Just troll.

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Bart Ehrman is a mainstream secular scholar and expert on the New Testament, an agnostic worth reading if you really want to get deep into textual criticism and analysis of Christian texts and the history of the spread of early Christianity. Haven’t felt this necessary myself for decades now.

Just from listening a bit to his talk, it is clear he is not trying to be a soothing “spiritual leader” or to hold anybody’s hand, but to approach these issues rationally and historically. From just before minute 45 he addresses the need to be psychologically empathetic in discussing with Christian believers, using his own experience as an example.


Anyway, I haven’t read any of his books, or even watched this whole talk. I certainly found nothing I disagree with here. He seems pretty mainstream and rational to me. I would have preferred listening to how he addresses his usual live audiences, which are made up often of believing Christians, not as here already convinced agnostic and atheistic “free thinkers.“
 

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