How Jesus became god'... from not being one. Bart Ehrman.

[ding]

Not sure how anyone can watch that video and not know that life and intelligence was preordained by the laws of nature.

Are humans the first and only intelligent species on earth? If so it took 4.5 billion years and innumerable accidents to get to us, and one asteroid strike could have wiped out every intelligent creature on the planet.

We are the first beings to know and to create. That's a whole different level of intelligence. But to your point, the varying levels of intelligence show that intelligence - like life - strives to reach its potential.

It actually took longer than that for beings that know and create to arise. As far as we know it took ~14 billion years for energy and matter to reach its potential. Granted, for all we know it could have happened sooner in some distant galaxy. I am not sure what you think intelligence being wiped out has to do with the purpose of the universe though. They don't really seem related to me.

 

[alang1216]

I think what you're missing is that most people, myself included, think of Darwin as a man who made a scientific contribution many years ago. It is you who have elevated Darwin to a demigod where every word he spoke or wrote, every thought he had is of cosmic importance. To you he is the Devil made flesh, to me he is merely an historical footnote.

For the idea of evolution/common descent, 'Origin of the Species' is arguably the most important (Non-Fiction) book ever written.

You may be right but I wonder how many biology students today read 'Origin of the Species' to learn about evolution?

 

[ding]

God will be better than you. Trust me.

I love how you have constructed a narrative of something you don't believe in. What could possibly go wrong with that.

I am still not seeing where God told you He will judge you. Was that in a phone call with Him?

Why should I trust you? Has God phoned you?

I'm not the one stating as fact that God will judge you, now am I?

So again... how do you know that God will judge you?

Everything I know about God is admittedly hearsay. Can you say anything different?

Yes. I can. Through reason and experience.

I've seen examples of your reasoning so I'll ask what in your experience could only have been from God?

It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit it should be obvious that the creation of the material world was intentional. After all in my perception of God, God is no thing and the closest thing I can relate to is a mind with no body. Using our own experiences as creators as a proxy, we know that when we create things we create them for a reason and that reason is to serve some purpose. So it would be no great leap of logic to believe that something like a mind with no body would do the same. We also know from our experiences that intelligence tends to create intelligence. We are obsessed with making smart things. So what better thing for a mind with no body to do than create a universe where beings with bodies can create smart things too.

So you judge the universe and demand it have purpose?

I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic, please feel free to explain.

In the meantime, let me provide my basis for my belief...

If we examine the physical laws we discover that we live in a logical universe governed by rules, laws and information. Rules laws and information are a signs of intelligence. The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. The consequence of a logical universe is that every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.

So why is it that YOU believe there is no purpose to the universe?

You judge it is obvious that if the material world were created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have intentional purpose. Maybe that is not what spirit does, who are you say?

Crystals are created by the geometry of their constituents. Is there an intelligence that places every atom or molecule in their place?

I don't believe wishing makes things real. I see no evidence of purpose.

I am a being that knows and creates and can use his own experiences as a creator as a proxy. That's who I am. No judgement required on my part. Only observations and reason are needed.

And water freezes at 32F and boils at 212F. Crystals and water are examples of matter doing what matter does. But it's the totality of what matter does which tells us that life and intelligence are built into the fabric of the laws of nature. That they are not accidents but rather potential realized. Since day 1 matter and energy have complexified according to the laws of nature and will continue to do so. That's how you know what the universe is; by what it has produced.

 

[esalla]

I think what you're missing is that most people, myself included, think of Darwin as a man who made a scientific contribution many years ago. It is you who have elevated Darwin to a demigod where every word he spoke or wrote, every thought he had is of cosmic importance. To you he is the Devil made flesh, to me he is merely an historical footnote.

For the idea of evolution/common descent, 'Origin of the Species' is arguably the most important (Non-Fiction) book ever written.

You may be right but I wonder how many biology students today read 'Origin of the Species' to learn about evolution?

Dude an 8 year old understands Darwins delusions

 

[james bond]

Actually simpleton dna and life are the same thing as all life is dna based

Man u is tupid

Has this always been the case? Maybe not. The first thing that was "life" (subject to natural selection and evolution) may have been much simpler than DNA. There are self-replicating molecules and proteins (prions) that may have preceded DNA life.

They would have to had two things; long chains that mimicked proteins and they would have had to fold themselves in exactly the correct sequence. You might as well call it a miracle.

Maybe, we'll likely never know for sure what happened. Before there was life there may well have been molecules that were capable of taking atoms in their environment and adding them to the end of their own chain. As the chains grew they'd occasionally break with the sub-pieces starting the process anew. Growth and reproduction. Natural selection would then kick in and enhance the process. Call it a miracle or call it evolution.

One of the strangest arguments against God or intelligent design, two separate belief systems, behind DNA is how the system of DNA could've formed randomly. The evos believe that it is the result of self-organization via evolution. If that's true, then they should be able to provide more examples for it as it happens today. Another complex system is the eye. Evos cannot duplicate either of it given the basic components. They can't do it even if the parts were model pieces and were asked to put it together. However, when presented with the argument that it is based on a designer with intelligence behind it, then they will deny it. Yet, this is exactly the type of argument that SETI uses and when it helps their cause, they will allow it and even call the search for it as scientific. It really is hypocrisy at its worst. Us in creation science have to put up with it all the time.

What happens with these complex systems are that they are like recording devices. We can put recordings of intelligence into these systems if we know how they work. It's like recording music on tape via analog method or on disk via a digital method. These microorganisms could just be another recording format as their cells are arranged in a systematic way. Yet, evos will never admit due to their atheist beliefs that this was due to an intelligence behind it. We have to have intelligence to figure out how it works and to see how they were formed since they are microscopic. Yet, it had to have happened by self-arrangement or some other BS explanation.

 

[ding]

I don't believe wishing makes things real. I see no evidence of purpose.

I see you as wishing there is no purpose to it all. Because you certainly don't have any evidence for your beliefs. In a logical universe every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.

 

[BreezeWood]

nn

Not sure how anyone can watch that video and not know that life and intelligence was preordained by the laws of nature.

Are humans the first and only intelligent species on earth? If so it took 4.5 billion years and innumerable accidents to get to us, and one asteroid strike could have wiped out every intelligent creature on the planet.

We are the first beings to know and to create. That's a whole different level of intelligence. But to your point, the varying levels of intelligence show that intelligence - like life - strives to reach its potential.

It actually took longer than that for beings that know and create to arise. As far as we know it took ~14 billion years for energy and matter to reach its potential. Granted, for all we know it could have happened sooner in some distant galaxy. I am not sure what you think intelligence being wiped out has to do with the purpose of the universe though. They don't really seem related to me.

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We are the first beings to know and to create.

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you are a broken record bing ... all beings know and create -
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there are some that transform themselves spiritually from one being to another if anything your religion and beliefs are in the least a regression from everything you state in the progression evolution has relentlessly exemplified and the spiritual content that has enabled its uninterrupted development.

 

[james bond]

Actually simpleton dna and life are the same thing as all life is dna based

Man u is tupid

Has this always been the case? Maybe not. The first thing that was "life" (subject to natural selection and evolution) may have been much simpler than DNA. There are self-replicating molecules and proteins (prions) that may have preceded DNA life.

They would have to had two things; long chains that mimicked proteins and they would have had to fold themselves in exactly the correct sequence. You might as well call it a miracle.

Maybe, we'll likely never know for sure what happened. Before there was life there may well have been molecules that were capable of taking atoms in their environment and adding them to the end of their own chain. As the chains grew they'd occasionally break with the sub-pieces starting the process anew. Growth and reproduction. Natural selection would then kick in and enhance the process. Call it a miracle or call it evolution.

There's no biological evolution without a living organism. And there's no living organism without folding instructions for the molecular machines. Molecular machines don't operate randomly. You wouldn't exist if they did. No one would. Molecular machines follow instructions. Life did not happen by accident. Life is programmed into the laws of nature.

I always thought you beat alang1216 with most of your science arguments, but thought he knew more than he was letting on. Today is the first time I realized he doesn't. He doesn't have any real conviction for anything he talks about. He just doesn't know. I thought he knew something about evolution and cared about it, but he doesn't.

 

[BreezeWood]

Actually simpleton dna and life are the same thing as all life is dna based

Man u is tupid

Has this always been the case? Maybe not. The first thing that was "life" (subject to natural selection and evolution) may have been much simpler than DNA. There are self-replicating molecules and proteins (prions) that may have preceded DNA life.

They would have to had two things; long chains that mimicked proteins and they would have had to fold themselves in exactly the correct sequence. You might as well call it a miracle.

Maybe, we'll likely never know for sure what happened. Before there was life there may well have been molecules that were capable of taking atoms in their environment and adding them to the end of their own chain. As the chains grew they'd occasionally break with the sub-pieces starting the process anew. Growth and reproduction. Natural selection would then kick in and enhance the process. Call it a miracle or call it evolution.

One of the strangest arguments against God or intelligent design, two separate belief systems, behind DNA is how the system of DNA could've formed randomly. The evos believe that it is the result of self-organization via evolution. If that's true, then they should be able to provide more examples for it as it happens today. Another complex system is the eye. Evos cannot duplicate either of it given the basic components. They can't do it even if the parts were model pieces and were asked to put it together. However, when presented with the argument that it is based on a designer with intelligence behind it, then they will deny it. Yet, this is exactly the type of argument that SETI uses and when it helps their cause, they will allow it and even call the search for it as scientific. It really is hypocrisy at its worst. Us in creation science have to put up with it all the time.

What happens with these complex systems are that they are like recording devices. We can put recordings of intelligence into these systems if we know how they work. It's like recording music on tape via analog method or on disk via a digital method. These microorganisms could just be another recording format as their cells are arranged in a systematic way. Yet, evos will never admit due to their atheist beliefs that this was due to an intelligence behind it. We have to have intelligence to figure out how it works and to see how they were formed since they are microscopic. Yet, it had to have happened by self-arrangement or some other BS explanation.

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Yet, evos will never admit due to their atheist beliefs that this was due to an intelligence behind it.

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true theist do not require a particular deity for anything -

you just deny the spiritual content of physiology that does not conform to your christian bible ... and obviously have never surmounted adversity to acquire an inalterable victory. to know the difference.

 

[ding]

nn

Not sure how anyone can watch that video and not know that life and intelligence was preordained by the laws of nature.

Are humans the first and only intelligent species on earth? If so it took 4.5 billion years and innumerable accidents to get to us, and one asteroid strike could have wiped out every intelligent creature on the planet.

We are the first beings to know and to create. That's a whole different level of intelligence. But to your point, the varying levels of intelligence show that intelligence - like life - strives to reach its potential.

It actually took longer than that for beings that know and create to arise. As far as we know it took ~14 billion years for energy and matter to reach its potential. Granted, for all we know it could have happened sooner in some distant galaxy. I am not sure what you think intelligence being wiped out has to do with the purpose of the universe though. They don't really seem related to me.

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We are the first beings to know and to create.

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you are a broken record bing ... all beings know and create -
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there are some that transform themselves spiritually from one being to another if anything your religion and beliefs are in the least a regression from everything you state in the progression evolution has relentlessly exemplified and the spiritual content that has enabled its uninterrupted development.

No. Not all beings know and create. Stop being a simpleton.

You aren't some metaphysical guru. You are just a run of the mill socialist attacking the dominant religion of the land. Nothing new here. Go away.

 

[james bond]

true theist do not require a particular deity for anything -

you just deny the spiritual content of physiology that does not conform to your christian bible ... and obviously have never surmounted adversity to acquire an inalterable victory. to know the difference.

Why would I need a deity to explain physiology? Many subjects can be explained without one. A deity comes in with religion and with the study of origins of life and our universe in terms of science. Also, when we discuss objective morality.

With physiology, we find how our bodies work except there are differences between how western and eastern beliefs developed. Also, what we know today and believe is much different from the past. What are you going to add with your evolutionary physiology?

 

[ding]

The desire of the sluggard kills him, for his hands refuse to labor. All day long he craves and craves, but the righteous gives and does not hold back.

 

[BreezeWood]

nn

Not sure how anyone can watch that video and not know that life and intelligence was preordained by the laws of nature.

Are humans the first and only intelligent species on earth? If so it took 4.5 billion years and innumerable accidents to get to us, and one asteroid strike could have wiped out every intelligent creature on the planet.

We are the first beings to know and to create. That's a whole different level of intelligence. But to your point, the varying levels of intelligence show that intelligence - like life - strives to reach its potential.

It actually took longer than that for beings that know and create to arise. As far as we know it took ~14 billion years for energy and matter to reach its potential. Granted, for all we know it could have happened sooner in some distant galaxy. I am not sure what you think intelligence being wiped out has to do with the purpose of the universe though. They don't really seem related to me.

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We are the first beings to know and to create.

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you are a broken record bing ... all beings know and create -
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there are some that transform themselves spiritually from one being to another if anything your religion and beliefs are in the least a regression from everything you state in the progression evolution has relentlessly exemplified and the spiritual content that has enabled its uninterrupted development.

No. Not all beings know and create. Stop being a simpleton.

You aren't some metaphysical guru. You are just a run of the mill socialist attacking the dominant religion of the land. Nothing new here. Go away.

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No. Not all beings know and create. Stop being a simpleton.

You aren't some metaphysical guru. You are just a run of the mill socialist attacking the dominant religion of the land. Nothing new here. Go away.

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neither you nor bond offer anything of value just a regressive religion madeup in the 4th century that hasn't a single accomplishment for its justification from that time to the present day.
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No. Not all beings know and create. Stop being a simpleton.

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other than yourself what other example do you have of a being that does not know and create.

 

[BreezeWood]

true theist do not require a particular deity for anything -

you just deny the spiritual content of physiology that does not conform to your christian bible ... and obviously have never surmounted adversity to acquire an inalterable victory. to know the difference.

Why would I need a deity to explain physiology? Many subjects can be explained without one. A deity comes in with religion and with the study of origins of life and our universe in terms of science. Also, when we discuss objective morality.

With physiology, we find how our bodies work except there are differences between how western and eastern beliefs developed. Also, what we know today and believe is much different from the past. What are you going to add with your evolutionary physiology?

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Why would I need a deity to explain physiology? ... What are you going to add with your evolutionary physiology?

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physiology is not native to planet Earth and is a metaphysical substance of the unknown and only exists when accompanied with a spiritual content where either will disappear when one is removed.

worry not bond for the Everlasting in 100 more years of your phony religion and what deity it may represent the life form will cease to exist by your dementia as the destruction of Garden Earth it will be responsible for.

 

[zaangalewa]

>>Me: >>Do you even know what Pope Francis said about the age of the Earth? <<

Tell me what he said about and I tell you whether this is right or wrong - based on the current knowledge of science about the age of the world. And if he formulated a new hypothese about the age of the world, then I 'm able to tell you what I think about the plausibility of this hypothese on reason of philosophy.

Haha, so the answer is no, you don't know. It figures. You don't know about your own religion, science, and what's important.

It is possible to believe in both evolution and the Catholic church’s teaching on creation, Pope Francis has said, as he cautioned against portraying God as a kind of magician who made the universe with a magic wand.
“The big bang, which is today posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creation; rather, it requires it,” the pope said in an address to a meeting at the pontifical academy of sciences.
“Evolution of nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation because evolution presupposes the creation of beings which evolve.”
Francis, 77, said it was easy to misinterpret the creation story as recounted in the book of Genesis, according to which God created heaven and Earth in six days and rested on the seventh.
“When we read the creation story in Genesis we run the risk of imagining that God was a magician, with a magic wand which is able to do everything,” he said.
“But it is not so. He created beings and let them develop according to internal laws which He gave every one, so they would develop, so they would reach maturity.”
Although Francis was packaging the ideas with his trademark eye for a soundbite, the content of what he was saying does not mark a break with Catholic teaching, which has modified considerably since Charles Darwin published On The Origin of Species in 1859.
Popes before him have also said that– with certain provisos – there is no incompatibility between evolution and God as divine creator.

Source: Pope Francis: evolution and creation both right

And now tell me please what Pope Francis said about the age of the world and/or the age of planet Earth - including source.

 

[zaangalewa]

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“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani” - - “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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With the words "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani ..." starts Psalm 22.

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To the choirmaster: according to The Doe of the Dawn. A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest. Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel. In you our fathers trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them. To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame. But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people. All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; “He trusts in the Lord; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!” Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother’s breasts. On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother’s womb you have been my God. Be not far from me, for trouble is near, and there is none to help. Many bulls encompass me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me; they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast; my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet — I can count all my bones — they stare and gloat over me; they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots. But you, O Lord, do not be far off! O you my help, come quickly to my aid! Deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog! Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued me from the horns of the wild oxen! I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you: You who fear the Lord, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel! For he has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him. From you comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will perform before those who fear him. The afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord! May your hearts live forever! All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations. All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, even the one who could not keep himself alive. Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation; they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.
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With the words "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani ..." starts Psalm 22.

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you're sure that was not spoken from the cross ... words of a dying man.

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[zaangalewa]

? You are an evil willing idiot, aren't you? The bible is an extremely small window - a kind of very important rear-view mirror - but life is in front, Darth Vader.

It's a total nonsense, what you say here. This is no basis for anyone, who likes to speak about real serios problems in this context, as for example the problem "real scientific theory of evolution vs counterproductive racist Darwinism". For example speaks nearly never anyone about the fact of evolution that we and all other creatures are biologically indeed sisters and brothers, what's very similiar to this what Saint Francis said once. But nearly everyone speaks about a materialistic fight and war and to be strong on reason of a fight for survival - what has in such forms to think not a lot to do with the real scientific theory of evolution. A simple virus for example could be a cause that all human beings die out - if we "fit" not with this, what needs to be done to win against a virus. For example if we "fit" not to wear masks, because bullshit is propagated and believed.

Heh. It's total nonsense what you just posted.

Unfortuatelly domintae pseudo-Christians and pseudo-scientists in the public discussions around evolution, so all of this discussions - specially in the English speaking world - are nearly always only nonsense.

Nobody understands much of what you post in S&T

S&T? Science and technology? And I thought I'm damned good in science and technology.

nor can you explain what you say in R&E

R&E? Religion and Ethics? ... Hmm ... I don't remember I said any nonsense in this context. And I said for sure lots of things there, which are important for me and others.

when asked.

I'm able to explain every single of my thoughts. For everything what I think exist reasons.

Who knows what you believe with your Catholicism?

I and the people who speak with me. In general I believe what's written down in the catechism of the holy church - with exceptions. And this exceprtions have always roots in traditions, roots in reasoning and/or roots in love. And sometimes I'm just simple not really convinced from something what's written there. But which church has such a good wide transparent base for all believers?

Do you even know what Pope Francis said about the age of the Earth?

Tell me what he said about and I tell you whether this is right or wrong - based on the current knowledge of science about the age of the world. And if he formulated a new hypothese about the age of the world, then I 'm able to tell you what I think about the plausibility of this hypothese on reason of philosophy.

The much more astonishing thing: When Pope Francis came he was for me a typical Catholic - unbelievable typical - who shared perfectly my belief - although he grew up in another continent continent, another culture and another language. Pope Francis is for sure one of the persons in the world who suffers a lot to be separated by Corona from his spontanous way to live with his brothers and sisters. Nevertheless he fights for the life of everyone in dignity and peace - til the last moment of life on Earth, when god will overtake.

Time for your meds

Anything else to say, dark soul?

Take your meds Captain

Anything else to say, impatient dark soul, who lives in fear of psychiatric diseases and rejects modern medical methods? It would be by the way the very best for all people all around you, if you would throw your weapons into the next scrap press.

Lol you are actually funny, but why are you projecting your heavily medicated life onto me?

Like I said, take your pills

Okay. You are an idiot and not shy to show this.

 

[james bond]

>>Me: >>Do you even know what Pope Francis said about the age of the Earth? <<

Tell me what he said about and I tell you whether this is right or wrong - based on the current knowledge of science about the age of the world. And if he formulated a new hypothese about the age of the world, then I 'm able to tell you what I think about the plausibility of this hypothese on reason of philosophy.

Haha, so the answer is no, you don't know. It figures. You don't know about your own religion, science, and what's important.

It is possible to believe in both evolution and the Catholic church’s teaching on creation, Pope Francis has said, as he cautioned against portraying God as a kind of magician who made the universe with a magic wand.
“The big bang, which is today posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creation; rather, it requires it,” the pope said in an address to a meeting at the pontifical academy of sciences.
“Evolution of nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation because evolution presupposes the creation of beings which evolve.”
Francis, 77, said it was easy to misinterpret the creation story as recounted in the book of Genesis, according to which God created heaven and Earth in six days and rested on the seventh.
“When we read the creation story in Genesis we run the risk of imagining that God was a magician, with a magic wand which is able to do everything,” he said.
“But it is not so. He created beings and let them develop according to internal laws which He gave every one, so they would develop, so they would reach maturity.”
Although Francis was packaging the ideas with his trademark eye for a soundbite, the content of what he was saying does not mark a break with Catholic teaching, which has modified considerably since Charles Darwin published On The Origin of Species in 1859.
Popes before him have also said that– with certain provisos – there is no incompatibility between evolution and God as divine creator.

Source: Pope Francis: evolution and creation both right

And now tell me please what Pope Francis said about the age of the world and/or the age of planet Earth - including source.

No, it's not possible to believe in both evolution and creation because of the age of the Earth. No rock or fossil could last billions of years, let alone millions as there are chemical, weathering, aging, pressure, and other factors that affect the planet. We observe that entire galaxies collide as well as large asteroids and meteors hit our planet and moon. This is the hypocrisy of evolution as it uses catastrophes to help it develop life while catastrophes help shape our planet with creation.

God is the creator and not a magician with a wand. There is no need for magic nor a wand. Francis is a liberal, so he ends up being fooled like the majority of them have been to Satan's Antibible of evolution.

Finally, you should be the one telling me what Francis believes as to the age of the Earth. I'm not Catholic, so I don't really trust Francis and what he believes. He does not talk about the Bible that much. We should not trust a human to lead us in our beliefs. That is Jesus and it is he who we Christians follow. Jesus said that humans were there from the beginning, so he alludes to a young Earth.

 

[zaangalewa]

>>Me: >>Do you even know what Pope Francis said about the age of the Earth? <<

Tell me what he said about and I tell you whether this is right or wrong - based on the current knowledge of science about the age of the world. And if he formulated a new hypothese about the age of the world, then I 'm able to tell you what I think about the plausibility of this hypothese on reason of philosophy.

Haha, so the answer is no, you don't know. It figures. You don't know about your own religion, science, and what's important.

It is possible to believe in both evolution and the Catholic church’s teaching on creation, Pope Francis has said, as he cautioned against portraying God as a kind of magician who made the universe with a magic wand.
“The big bang, which is today posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creation; rather, it requires it,” the pope said in an address to a meeting at the pontifical academy of sciences.
“Evolution of nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation because evolution presupposes the creation of beings which evolve.”
Francis, 77, said it was easy to misinterpret the creation story as recounted in the book of Genesis, according to which God created heaven and Earth in six days and rested on the seventh.
“When we read the creation story in Genesis we run the risk of imagining that God was a magician, with a magic wand which is able to do everything,” he said.
“But it is not so. He created beings and let them develop according to internal laws which He gave every one, so they would develop, so they would reach maturity.”
Although Francis was packaging the ideas with his trademark eye for a soundbite, the content of what he was saying does not mark a break with Catholic teaching, which has modified considerably since Charles Darwin published On The Origin of Species in 1859.
Popes before him have also said that– with certain provisos – there is no incompatibility between evolution and God as divine creator.

Source: Pope Francis: evolution and creation both right

And now tell me please what Pope Francis said about the age of the world and/or the age of planet Earth - including source.

No, it's not possible to believe in both evolution and creation ...

And this I do not discuss with you, because it is senseless to discuss this with you. ... Tell me what Pope Francis said about the age of the Earth - including source.

 

[esalla]

true theist do not require a particular deity for anything -

you just deny the spiritual content of physiology that does not conform to your christian bible ... and obviously have never surmounted adversity to acquire an inalterable victory. to know the difference.

Why would I need a deity to explain physiology? Many subjects can be explained without one. A deity comes in with religion and with the study of origins of life and our universe in terms of science. Also, when we discuss objective morality.

With physiology, we find how our bodies work except there are differences between how western and eastern beliefs developed. Also, what we know today and believe is much different from the past. What are you going to add with your evolutionary physiology?

What is the physiology of schizophrenia?