How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?

[Natural Citizen]

Rush it thru, stick it to the liberals!!!

You don't even know what a liberal is.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Ah well. I suppose I've drifted this thread off-topic. I guess. I dunno.

I'll say this, though, people in the middle class would be really unhappy if they understood what's in store for them in a couple of years. If it's that far away.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Just what kind of f*ck-up must one be to propose tax cuts and not be able to convince a majority of the polity that the tax cut is good enough for them to support it?"

The kind who cuts taxes only for the wealthy and corporations.

The kind who contrives a tax scam that will render millions of Americans without access to affordable healthcare.

The kind who contrives a tax scam where middle and low income Americans will end up paying more in taxes in coming years.

 

[Slyhunter]

I love the removal of tax write offs for high taxed states. Finally someone making life fare for those of us who don't pay state income taxes and just sales taxes instead. You people in high tax states now get to know why that's a bad idea and live with the consequences of living in a high tax state instead of covering it up and making the rest of us pay through your state tax deductions on your federal taxes.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Republican tax scam is the definition of insanity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it.

That's awful! I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.......

Well. As I said, you clearly do not understand economics.

I'm still waiting for you to show that it's a tax hike on the middle class........

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Rush it thru, stick it to the liberals!!!

You don't even know what a liberal is.

A liberal is like a person, only dumber.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it.

That's awful! I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.......

Well. As I said, you clearly do not understand economics.

I'm still waiting for you to show that it's a tax hike on the middle class........

I did. It's economics101. Ya statist hack. lolol.

 

[Uncensored2008]

But when the media lies, nonstop, saying the tax cut will raise middle class taxes, people believed them.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Respectfully.

I know the media lied. I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

In fact, it cutting taxes on the middle class an average of $2,000 a year.

But as you say, the gutter media is flat out lying.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

The gains that people think they will have are illusionary. It is distortion. The fact that you fail to realize this reality indicates that you do not understand economics.

Go color.

You're lying, and you know it.

But it won't matter, because around February the vast majority of Americans will have more in their paychecks.

 

[Natural Citizen]

In fact, it cutting taxes on the middle class an average of $2,000 a year.

But as you say, the gutter media is flat out lying.

Those are illusionary gains. And Toddster is the gutter media. lolol.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?

You don't.
But when the media lies, nonstop, saying the tax cut will raise middle class taxes, people believed them.

Middle class taxes will be raised.. some now some later..
But you have to lie about it because you trust the guvment.

You're flat out lying.

You don't know it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Whether the bill invokes a tax hike, or not, is not the point. The point of this thread is exactly what's stated in the OP. the unpopularity of the tax bill composed and proponed and the Congress' and POTUS' determination to yet sign the damn thing.

The most dangerous, insidious, regressive tax of all is the one that congress never has to vote on. And the one that will put people in higher tax brackets. People like Toddster never talk about that.

You're flat out lying, and you know it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

When we are already deeply in debt. Many of us want to see the debt shrink.

Is that why you continuously increase spending?

 

[Natural Citizen]

I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

The gains that people think they will have are illusionary. It is distortion. The fact that you fail to realize this reality indicates that you do not understand economics.

Go color.

You're lying, and you know it.

But it won't matter, because around February the vast majority of Americans will have more in their paychecks.

Nope. I'm the only one telling it to you straight. I understand. The truth do sting a bit.

By the way. You should remove the words radical libertarian from under your avy. Seems to me that you're likely a radical statist. More likely, howwver, is that like Toddster, you, too, do not understand economics.

The respectable thing to do would be to thank me for telling it to you straight.

 

[Uncensored2008]

In fact, it cutting taxes on the middle class an average of $2,000 a year.

But as you say, the gutter media is flat out lying.

Those are illusionary gains. And Toddster is the gutter media. lolol.

They are cash in the pockets of Americans. You of the left think the earnings of working people belong to you.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

The gains that people think they will have are illusionary. It is distortion. The fact that you fail to realize this reality indicates that you do not understand economics.

Go color.

You're lying, and you know it.

But it won't matter, because around February the vast majority of Americans will have more in their paychecks.

Nope. I'm the only one telling it to you straight. I undestand. The truth do sting a bit.

By the way. You should remove the words radical libertarian from under your avy. Seems to me that you're likely a radical statist. Mor likely, howver, is that like Toddster, you, too, do not understand economics.

The respectable thing to do would be to thank me for telling it to you straight.

Nope, you're flat out lying, and you know it.

The tax CUTS decrease what the middle class pays.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Is that why you continuously increase spending?

Well, wait a minute. What about that trillion and a half that we just spent. Where'd that money come from. We're broke. We're 21 trillion in debt and carrying around 4 cent dollars to buy things that are costing more and more.

Oh, the so-called right dindu nuffin? Is that what you're saying? lolol.

 

[mudwhistle]

How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?

You don't.
But when the media lies, nonstop, saying the tax cut will raise middle class taxes, people believed them.

Middle class taxes will be raised.. some now some later..
But you have to lie about it because you trust the guvment.

Middle class taxes will be raised..

What income range is middle class?

Democrats can't be honest about anything.
They've adopted the Islamic method of lying about everything.
At least 87 of them are card carrying communists that believe the ends justify the means.
That means every one of them is a lying criminal.

 

[mudwhistle]

President Reagan and Congressional Republicans discovered that broad tax cuts may appeal to working-class voters even if richer constituents reap most of the rewards. The key GOP move was to keep tax-cut promises sweepingly general. If voters are given a choice between tax cuts and spending on specific programs, they choose to maintain or increase spending. When they are given a choice between tax cuts and lower deficit levels, they choose lower deficits. It's a different matter, however, if no one mentions the need to cut specific programs or the possibility of higher deficits. In that case, voters assume that tax cuts will be paid for by cuts in “government waste.” This is the centerpiece of the Republican tax cut strategy. 1980s Republicans had few moral qualms about promising tax cuts without mentioning the specific programs that might have to be cut. They saw this approach as the strategic analogue to years of Democratic promises to increase spending without detailing how to pay for new or expanded programs.

Republicans could also take advantage of the general unpopularity of major kinds of U.S. taxes. In contrast to many other advanced industrial democracies, the United States relies heavily on highly visible taxes – property taxes at the local level and the income tax at the national level. As middle-class market incomes stagnated during the economic crisis, reductions in highly visible taxes became a popular way to boost family budgets.

Republican fealty to tax-cut politics was set in cement soon after Reagan left office. In his first term, successor Republican President George H. W. Bush wanted to address rising deficits and broke a pledge never to raise taxes. This was not so different from what Reagan himself did when he accepted tax increases in 1982. But when Bush was not reelected, modern-day Republicans drew an iron-clad lesson: tax cuts are the road to electoral success and tax increases spell defeat at the polls. Republicans also began to realize that deficits could be financed with foreign capital, and that voters did not punish politicians for big deficits. Their strategy became unshakable.

With that past as the prologue to current GOP tax cut bill, what does the GOP manage to do? Pen and pass a tax cut that most Americans don't want!

Seriously!?! Just what kind of f*ck-up must one be to propose tax cuts and not be able to convince a majority of the polity that the tax cut is good enough for them to support it? Of all the things legislators and government executives might do, cutting taxes has traditionally been the most popular thing available to choose from their "basket of goodies."

• A few weeks back: The GOP Tax Cuts Are Even More Unpopular Than Past Tax Hikes
  
• Six days ago: Poll: Majority oppose GOP tax bill
• Four hours ago: Republican Tax Bill Has Grown More Unpopular, Poll Shows

I'm sorry, but how "bat sh*t stupid" must Congressional Republicans be to (1) craft an unpopular tax cut and (2) not materially change it so that it is popular?

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Might it be unpopular because it's been billed as something it's not, say as "the biggest tax cut in history?"

• The Biggest Tax Cut in History? Not Even Close

That probably has something to do with it though it's also quite likely that voters know that at their peril will they trust in a damn thing the GOP, and Trump in particular, says.

'How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?'

The same way one proposes an unpopular healthcare bill.

The difference is the healthcare bill is simply a carbon copy of the tax bill.
The ACA is just a dark opposite version of the tax bill, the largest hidden tax increase in US history.