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He and Conservatives have no problem adding the NOTARIZED signature and verification process to such ballots.NOTE: the story being 24 hours old I did due diligence looking for any thread on it, using the site's own search engine, found none.
Guess who just requested a mail-in ballot for a local election. I gives you a hint --- Florida.
>> Despite his unsubstantiated claims about mail-in voting during the 2020 election, former President Donald Rump requested a mail ballot for the third time on Friday.In one of his first civic duties as a private citizen since leaving office in January, Rump requested a ballot to vote in Palm Beach's municipal election. According to the Palm Beach Post, his request was made nearly a week after the deadline to have a ballot sent to a voter by mail. Ballots are still available for pickup.As of noon Monday, his ballot has not yet been recorded. Records show that former first lady Melanie Trump has not requested a mail ballot, but she voted in person last November at the Morton and Barbara Mandel Recreation Center in Palm Beach, Florida, the city where the couple now resides. << -- Newsweek (emphasis added)
The former resident also voted by mail as a Florida resident in the presidential primary last March and in the August primary. <<
At least the third time he's used the "fraudulent" method, and check the underlined part.... he's going to need a ballot box or a third party to get the vote in because it's too late to mail.
"Fraud for thee but great for ME ME ME!"
Having it both ways: Priceless.
Note also that one of his previous mail-in votes was in the Presidential primary. Florida has a "closed" primary election, meaning you have to be registered with a political party to vote in its primary. Assuming Rump is a registered Republican, he actually thought it was necessary to vote for himself in the primary. Isn't THAT eloquent.
The problems contested were
1. Mailin ballots where the Notarization was bypassed and deliberately omitted when it could have been required
2. Mailing out mailin ballots that didn't require notarizations
3. The mass volumes in the Millions of these unnotarized mailin ballots that are too voluminous to verify accurately with guaranteed certainty that no anomalies or discrepancies occur due to lack of notarization under penalty of perjury
4. The millions of unnotarized mailin ballots far exceeding the narrow margins of 20-50K differences in close races and states split almost 50/50
5. The changes in rules that weren't voted on by state legislatures as required by agreed standards and Constitutional laws, so that the contested changes to national election policy and process weren't agree to by all people and states affected
6. The mass fraud and misrepresentation in claiming the rule changes and election was conducted consistent with Constitutional laws when it was not, because the rule changes were contested and did not follow Constitutional process and standards. Similar to ACA even though Courts ruled these policies were Constitutional, the objection by public leaders and members is that these violate Constitutional laws and process.
The process is still contested as unconstitutional until the votes counted are notarized under penalty of perjury, or the public still has equal rights to contest "faith based" results until proof of valid legal counts are provided. The question remains as to how to pay the costs of resolving these disputes, since the people who pushed the conditions not requiring notarization accept the results without the extra costs of going back to notarize contested mailin ballots, while the people denanding notarized proof never agreed to the rule changes in the first place. Because it is unfair to make the objectors pay to prove up a voting system they didn't agree to, in order to satisfy their case, the burden of proof should be on the people who imposed the contested rule changes. So that is why we are stuck where we are.
Nobody wants to pay the cost of redoing the mailin votes by notatization in the contested states.
Maybe I should sue both major parties to pay for that cost in order to resolve this conflict by demanding notarization for the contested votes and states in question!
There's no reason every vote should have to go running to a Notary Public. That's just more counterdemocratic bullshit flung against the wall by those who don't want "them" to vote.
The various states adapted on the fly to the elephant-in-the-room COVID PANDEMIC. Hello?? Those adjustments, in Pennsylvania, allowed a time period to be challenged, which they weren't. Again, counterdemocratic bullshit flung by those who don't want voting going on. And you know what, MY state was one of them, yet NOBODY had a problem with North Carolina doing the same thing Pennsylvania, Wisconsin (et al) did to react to a pandemic. And you know why that is? Guess who won my state. That's why. Yet another case of "Having it Both Ways -- Priceless" or as my thread title calls it, Hypocrisy.
The bottom line here, the point of the thread, is that Rump is using --- for the third time in the last year --- the exact same system he spent MONTHS trying to discredit as "fraud", the same system that's been in place since AT LEAST the Civil War, for his own vote. That in turn means that Rump is a hypocrite full of shit, or to put it another way, today is a day that ends in the letter Y.