How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[sealybobo]

there's a thing called bibles and scrolls where history was documented. You should go to school and learn how to educate yourself.

They kept track of the temperature?

Nothing from Jesus' day survived. Isn't that weird? Chinese, Italy, all over the world, history was being documented and saved. But NOTHING from God's visit survived. Interesting huh?

Do you even know when the first bible was written?

 

[Grumblenuts]

'Green News Report' - March 18, 2025

With Brad Friedman & Desi Doyen...

bradblog.com

 

[abu afak]

How are you accounting for water vapor's roll in the convective transfer of energy? ... mind you, that's 2,100 J/g for the latent heat of evaporation ... that much energy raises the temperature of a gram of air 2,100ºC ... is that what you mean? ...

Your "positive feedback loop" fails conservation laws my friend ... please explain why carbon dioxide goes up and temperatures go down between 1940 and 1980 ...

YOU are a FRAUD who just seeks to dump as many Physics Terms you can into your pointless chatter.

You Cannot and have Not laid out your position on AGW (or Not) lest you lose your Status/Wanted Persona of a RWer.

What is your position on AGW you FRAUD?
Tell all the Dumbbells you post with.

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[psikeyhackr]

The Discovery of Global Warming by Spencer Weary

The Discovery of Global Warming

A hypertext history of how scientists came to (partly) understand what people are doing to cause climate change. An abridged web version of Spencer R. Weart's book presented by the American Institute of Physics.

history.aip.org

 

[Grumblenuts]

First Paper to Link CO2 and Global Warming, by Eunice Foote (1856)

The first paper to link carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and earth heating.

publicdomainreview.org

"Entirely because she was a woman,"

 

[jc456]

First Paper to Link CO2 and Global Warming, by Eunice Foote (1856)

The first paper to link carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and earth heating.

publicdomainreview.org

"Entirely because she was a woman,"

How 19th Century Scientists Predicted Global Warming - JSTOR Daily

Today’s headlines make climate change seem like a recent discovery. But Eunice Newton Foote and others have been piecing it together for centuries.

daily.jstor.org

 

[abu afak]

$76 trillion, quick!!!

SO.....
the "$76 Trillion" TrollsterParrot posts daily has NO Current basis.
It's a 14 Year Old estimate!

(2011)

New Pricetag for Going Green: $76 Trillion | National Review​

So says the noted climate-denial body located on New York City’s East River. Dan Gainor: Two years ago, U.N. researchers were claiming that it would cost “as much as $600 billion a year over the ne…[/quote

Solar (and on-shore wind) has come Down in price 90%.
See my other OPs on renewables.
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SO.....
the "$76 Trillion" TrollsterParrot posts daily has NO Current basis.
It's a 14 Year Old estimate!



Solar (and on-shore wind) has come Down in price 90%.
See my other OPs on renewables.
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Getting back to the OP, we know humans aren't causing the planet to warm because the planet always warms naturally after a glacial period has ended. See?

 

[psikeyhackr]

What is the price tag for not going green?

Will it actually cost any money for a couple of billion people to die off and large areas of land to become uninhabitable?

 

[cnm]

so nothing. And you fking ignore all the documentation since before man.

You mean the great ape histories?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Erm, zero change.

 

[Sunsettommy]

What is the price tag for not going green?

Will it actually cost any money for a couple of billion people to die off and large areas of land to become uninhabitable?

What an ignorant thing to say since the increase in CO2 in the air has set off a big increase in the biota of the planet to a better GREENING world.

NASA

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds​

Excerpt:

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

LINK

 

[abu afak]

What an ignorant thing to say since the increase in CO2 in the air has set off a big increase in the biota of the planet to a better GREENING world.

NASA

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds​

Excerpt:

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

LINK

First I'd like to thank the DISHONEST SunsetMommy for this REPEAT Link he Dishonestly Partially quoted to make the same point. a few days ago!!!
He's probably forgot as dumped/abused it on WTFUWT and other mbs.

There is no question, in General and to a limit, CO2 helps plant life.
But YOUR NASA LINK Continues!

"....While rising Carbon Dioxide concentrations in the air Can be Beneficial for Plants, it is also the Chief Culprit of Climate Change. The gas, which Traps Heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been Increasing since the Industrial age due to the Burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach Concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years.
The impacts of climate change include Global Warming, Rising Sea Levels, Melting Glaciers and Sea Ice as well as more Severe Weather events.

The beneficial impacts of Carbon Dioxide on plants may also be Limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.”

“While the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,” said co-author Josep Canadell of the Oceans and Atmosphere Division in the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation in Canberra, Australia. Canadell added that while the models represent the best possible simulation of Earth system components, they are continually being improved."""
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From Sunsettommy's Link!
Now you see why this Low Life HAD to put me on 'Ignore.' (more likely Lying since he sees my posts IAC.)
He's dishonest, loses Every debate, and Cannot/Would Not lay out his AGW position either.

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First I'd like to thank the DISHONEST SunsetMommy for this REPEAT Link he Dishonestly Partially quoted to make the same point. a few days ago!!!

There is no question, in General and to a limit, CO2 helps plant life.
But YOUR NASA LINK Continues!

"....While rising Carbon Dioxide concentrations in the air Can be Beneficial for Plants, it is also the Chief Culprit of Climate Change. The gas, which Traps Heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been Increasing since the Industrial age due to the Burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach Concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years.
The impacts of climate change include Global Warming, Rising Sea Levels, Melting Glaciers and Sea Ice as well as more Severe Weather events.

The beneficial impacts of Carbon Dioxide on plants may also be Limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.”

“While the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,” said co-author Josep Canadell of the Oceans and Atmosphere Division in the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation in Canberra, Australia. Canadell added that while the models represent the best possible simulation of Earth system components, they are continually being improved."""
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From Sunsettommy's Link!
Now you see why this Low Life HAD to put me on 'Ignore.' (more likely Lying since he sees my posts IAC.)
He's dishonest, loses Every debate, and Cannot/Would Not lay out his AGW position either.

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My position is that when the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and the atmosphere warm like what is happening today.

 

[jc456]

You mean the great ape histories?

You think we came from monkeys? Why then are there still monkeys?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is the price tag for not going green?

Will it actually cost any money for a couple of billion people to die off and large areas of land to become uninhabitable?

Air conditioning is a thing now. You should look into it.
When it gets a degree warmer in 80 years, turn on the air conditioner.
You'll be alright.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First I'd like to thank the DISHONEST SunsetMommy for this REPEAT Link he Dishonestly Partially quoted to make the same point. a few days ago!!!
He's probably forgot as dumped/abused it on WTFUWT and other mbs.

There is no question, in General and to a limit, CO2 helps plant life.
But YOUR NASA LINK Continues!

"....While rising Carbon Dioxide concentrations in the air Can be Beneficial for Plants, it is also the Chief Culprit of Climate Change. The gas, which Traps Heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been Increasing since the Industrial age due to the Burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach Concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years.
The impacts of climate change include Global Warming, Rising Sea Levels, Melting Glaciers and Sea Ice as well as more Severe Weather events.

The beneficial impacts of Carbon Dioxide on plants may also be Limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.”

“While the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,” said co-author Josep Canadell of the Oceans and Atmosphere Division in the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation in Canberra, Australia. Canadell added that while the models represent the best possible simulation of Earth system components, they are continually being improved."""
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From Sunsettommy's Link!
Now you see why this Low Life HAD to put me on 'Ignore.' (more likely Lying since he sees my posts IAC.)
He's dishonest, loses Every debate, and Cannot/Would Not lay out his AGW position either.

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Concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years.

It's true, the last time we had this much CO2 on the planet,
all life went extinct.

“While the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,”

Right, just like all the AGW doom and gloom is based on models.

DURR

 

[ding]

What is the price tag for not going green?

Will it actually cost any money for a couple of billion people to die off and large areas of land to become uninhabitable?

Maybe you are thinking about a glacial period.

 

[abu afak]

The Sun does warm the Earth and caused most PREVIOUS Warm periords, with CO2 lagging but Exacerbating the problem.
.. but now/THIS TIME the Sun's radiation hitting the earth has NOT changed in at least 50 years.. yet it is warming.

What has changed is the ever and Rapidly increasing/Spiking (50%) concentration/Density of our Fossil Fuel Burning GHG (CO2/CH4/etc) Blanket is trapping that Radiation and preventing it from Otherwise being reflected back out into space.

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And the CO2 problem is CUMULATIVE.
It stays in the atmosphere for 5-200 years.
If we cut worldwide emissions 50% or even 80% (which we are not) the problem would still get worse Every year.

The last time we had over 400PPM CO2 the temp was higher and melting/Sea Level was 50' Higher.
We are in the Oven, just waiting waiting for the Earth catch up/'Cook Through.'


MEANWHILE we are constantly Turning up the Oven Temp/GHG effect!

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[Toddsterpatriot]

The Sun does warm the Earth and caused most PREVIOUS Warm periords, with CO2 lagging but Exacerbating the problem.
.. but now/THIS TIME the Sun's radiation hitting the earth has NOT changed in at least 50 years.. yet it is warming.

What has changed is the ever and Rapidly increasing/Spiking (50%) concentration/Density of our Fossil Fuel Burning GHG (CO2/CH4/etc) Blanket is trapping that Radiation and preventing it from Otherwise being reflected back out into space.


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And the CO2 problem is CUMULATIVE.
It stays in the atmosphere for 5-200 years.
If we cut worldwide emissions 50% or even 80% (which we are not) the problem would still get worse Every year.

The last time we had over 400PPM CO2 the temp was higher and melting/Sea Level was 50' Higher.
We are in the Oven, just waiting waiting for the Earth catch up/'Cook Through.'


MEANWHILE we are constantly Turning up the Oven Temp/GHG effect!

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What has changed is the ever and Rapidly increasing/Spiking (50%) concentration/Density of our Fossil Fuel Burning GHG (CO2/CH4/etc) Blanket is trapping that Radiation and preventing it from Otherwise being reflected back out into space.

CO2 doesn't reduce reflected sunlight; it slows IR radiation escaping the atmosphere.