How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[EMH]

hot air rises, genius...

Brilliant!

Welcome to the party pal.

The Jews welcome your surrender.

LOL!!!

hot air rising is an hourly issue.

You have the other 70 years of data to explain, and you can't....

Surface Air Pressure has been on a down trend for the past 70 years, which 100% proves planet Earth is NOT experiencing a net ice melt.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!

hot air rising is an hourly issue.

You have the other 70 years of data to explain, and you can't....

Surface Air Pressure has been on a down trend for the past 70 years, which 100% proves planet Earth is NOT experiencing a net ice melt.

hot air rising is an hourly issue.

No, hot air rises every day, every week and every year.

Surface Air Pressure has been on a down trend for the past 70 years,

Which could be caused by warming.
You thought it could be caused by cooling.

Because you're a moron.

 

[EMH]

No, hot air rises every day, every week and every year

and hence an annualized data comparing year and year eliminates any distortion from that issue

Which could be caused by warming

LOL!!!

Too much to drink tonight...

What is causing surface air pressure to trend down for the past 70 years....

1. NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT, in fact ice increase, taking more gas molecules out of the atmosphere and trapping them in ice.
2. NO WARMING

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and hence an annualized data comparing year and year eliminates any distortion from that issue





LOL!!!

Too much to drink tonight...

What is causing surface air pressure to trend down for the past 70 years....

1. NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT, in fact ice increase, taking more gas molecules out of the atmosphere and trapping them in ice.
2. NO WARMING

and hence an annualized data comparing year and year eliminates any distortion from that issue

The chart you posted wasn't annualized? Do better.

What is causing surface air pressure to trend down for the past 70 years....

You said it was cooling? Were you lying again?

in fact ice increase, taking more gas molecules out of the atmosphere and trapping them in ice.

Post your calculations. Show how much air is being trapped. Prove the trapped air correlates to the reduced pressure.

Don't just stand there whining, the Jews are making you look stupid. I mean more stupid than you already looked.
Which was already really, really stupid.

 

[Grumblenuts]

If you warm the entire atmosphere, the entire atmosphere will expand in volume. That will put the atmosphere's center of mass at a higher altitude. Gravity decreases with altitude. The thermal expansion, then, will reduce the weight of the atmosphere and will thus reduce surface pressure.

Won't the center of mass for the Entire Atmosphere still be near the center of the Earth? It kinda surrounds the planet.

Fair point. The center mass and the center of gravity of the entire atmosphere remain near Earth's geographic center. I'm not sure our language is sufficient to precisely describe what Crick was suggesting, but I think we can easily picture what he meant. Instead of a "higher altitude" perhaps an increased radius of average global air mass. Air columns radiating orthogonally from the surface might be helpful.

 

[Dagosa]

Fair point. The center mass and the center of gravity of the entire atmosphere remain near Earth's geographic center. I'm not sure our language is sufficient to precisely describe what Crick was suggesting, but I think we can easily picture what he meant. Instead of a "higher altitude" perhaps an increased radius of average global air mass. Air columns radiating orthogonally from the surface might be helpful.

Again, . The center of mass of the atmosphere is where 50% is above and 50% is below found in the troposphere. The center of gravity is closer to the surface where the air is most dense. Here is how it’s affected.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/12/troposphere-climate-change/

 

[EMH]

The chart you posted wasn't annualized? Do better.

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

You said it was cooling?

No ongoing net ice melt and no warming, in fact net ice growth...

Prove the trapped air correlates to the reduced pressure.

What happens to surface air pressure if all air in the atmosphere becomes trapped in ice, so there is no air at all like on Pluto today?

Do you have an IQ over 5 ....

 

[Grumblenuts]

Again, . The center of mass of the atmosphere is where 50% is above and 50% is below found in the troposphere. The center of gravity is closer to the surface where the air is most dense. Here is how it’s affected.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/12/troposphere-climate-change/

Where is the center of mass of the Earth's atmosphere? - askIITians

Where is the center of mass of the Earth's atmosphere? Assuming the symmetrical distribution of atmosphere of Earth and that the earth is a perfect sphere, one

www.askiitians.com

 

[Crick]

Won't the center of mass for the Entire Atmosphere still be near the center of the Earth? It kinda surrounds the planet.

Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the altitude at which half the atmosphere's mass is below and half is above; that is that there are as many air molecules between that point and the surface as there are between that point and the vacuum of space. There is no common term for the point but Google AI suggests "half-atmosphere level". The point at which the pressure has dropped to 500 mb is commonly used as such.

Yes, the actual center of mass of the entire atmosphere is roughly coincident with the center of the planet. I was hoping the context of the discussion would prevent that confusion.

As you rise in altitude above the planet, the force of gravity diminishes. It is mutual gravitational attraction that creates the atmosphere's surface pressure. If you reduce that force, you will reduce the atmosphere's surface pressure. As was to be fully expected, EMH is incorrect but he will claim against all evidence and reason that everyone but him is lying because EMH has some serious mental issues for which he ought to be seeking treatment.

 

[Dagosa]

Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the altitude at which half the atmosphere's mass is below and half is above; that is that there are as many air molecules between that point and the surface as there are between that point and the vacuum of space. There is no common term for the point but Google AI suggests "half-atmosphere level". The point at which the pressure has dropped to 500 mb is commonly used as such.

Yes, the actual center of mass of the entire atmosphere is roughly coincident with the center of the planet. I was hoping the context of the discussion would prevent that confusion.

As you rise in altitude above the planet, the force of gravity diminishes. It is mutual gravitational attraction that creates the atmosphere's surface pressure. If you reduce that force, you will reduce the atmosphere's surface pressure. As was to be fully expected, EMH is incorrect but he will claim against all evidence and reason that everyone but him is lying because EMH has some serious mental issues for which he ought to be seeking treatment.

You’re reading opinions. This is Brittanica.
The difference is, the atmosphere is not uniform not it is it static. This is something our resident denier does not get. Assuming that the center of mass and gravity is the same, doesn’t work for our atmosphere practically…..because it’s not concentrated or static and assumes the entire earth includes the atmosphere which it does not in a discussion of AGW.
The center of mass and the center of gravity are related concepts, but they are not the same

:

• Center of mass: Indicates the position where all mass of the object is assumed to be concentrated.
• Center of gravity: Indicates the position where all weight of the object is assumed to be concentrated. In a uniform gravitational field, the center of gravity is identical to the center of mass.

Gravity pulls the gas molecules towards Earth’s center. The pull of gravity is stronger closer to the center at sea level. Air is denser at sea level where the gravitational pull is greater.Gases at sea level are also compressed by the weight of the atmosphere above them.

The solid earth is not subject to gravity the same way the earth’s atmosphere is. So any discussion of center of mass of the atmosphere is best described as it exist within the confines of the atmosphere, and that is where 50%:is mass is above and below….or in the troposphere.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

No ongoing net ice melt and no warming, in fact net ice growth...






What happens to surface air pressure if all air in the atmosphere becomes trapped in ice, so there is no air at all like on Pluto today?

Do you have an IQ over 5 ....

Thanks for posting the chart that supports warming and not cooling.

Thanks for not posting any evidence or calculations for air trapped in the ice.
If you did, your idiocy would be even more evident, if that's even possible anymore.

If you have evidence that Pluto has no air because it's trapped in the ice and not because its temperature
is below the freezing point of most gases, now is the time to post it.

Coming from a guy with a room temperature IQ (Celsius), your IQ comments are especially hilarious.

 

[EMH]

If you have evidence that Pluto has no air because it's trapped in the ice and not because its temperature
is below the freezing point of most gases, now is the time to post it.

LOL!!!

So you are arguing that before all of Pluto's atmosphere ended up frozen, surface air pressure spiked up???

LOL!!!

 

[ding]

LOL!!!

So you are arguing that before all of Pluto's atmosphere ended up frozen, surface air pressure spiked up???

LOL!!!

Surface pressure is a function of air density and air density is a function of temperature.

You make the dumbest arguments ever. Stop getting your science from social media.

 

[EMH]

Surface pressure is a function of air density and air density is a function of temperature.

You make the dumbest arguments ever. Stop getting your science from social media.

So as Pluto's elliptical orbit pulled Pluto further away from the Sun, did Pluto's surface air pressure go up or down???


Hint - it has NO ATMOSPHERE NOW

 

[ding]

So as Pluto's elliptical orbit pulled Pluto further away from the Sun, did Pluto's surface air pressure go up or down???


Hint - it has NO ATMOSPHERE NOW

What part of "Surface pressure is a function of air density and air density is a function of temperature" did you not understand?

 

[EMH]

What part of "Surface pressure is a function of air density and air density is a function of temperature" did you not understand?

Once again, the Co2 FRAUd supporters here are arguing "warm air rises" instead of focusing on what happens when an entire planetary atmosphere warms or cools.

Pluto's atmosphere cooled, and its surface air pressure went DOWN... to ZERO.


HELLO, got any real data to refute that??

LOL!!!

 

[ding]

Once again, the Co2 FRAUd supporters here are arguing "warm air rises" instead of focusing on what happens when an entire planetary atmosphere warms or cools.

Pluto's atmosphere cooled, and its surface air pressure went DOWN... to ZERO.


HELLO, got any real data to refute that??

LOL!!!

The formula for calculating atmospheric pressure at an altitude is P=101325(1-2.25577x10-5(h))5.25588

 

[EMH]

The formula for calculating atmospheric pressure at an altitude is \(P=101325(1-2.25577\times 10-5(h))5.25588\)

So what is the atmospheric pressure on Pluto now?

What was it 100 years ago?

 

[ding]

So what is the atmospheric pressure on Pluto now?

What was it 100 years ago?

Don't care. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that atmospheric pressure is a function of air density.

 

[EMH]

Don't care. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that atmospheric pressure is a function of air density.

You "don't care" that as Pluto moved further away from the Sun its surface air pressure DROPPED TO ZERO....


The Co2 FRAUD never cares about TRUTH and DATA, it only cares about FUDGE.