How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[EMH]

You didn't show that pressure increased in the Jurassic as it warmed.

So it just popped up all in one spike, in like 10 seconds???

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Pluto proves that cooling an atmosphere reduces surface air pressure,

It doesn't prove that a cooling atmosphere on Earth reduces surface air pressure.

Both planets, both had atmospheres... why not?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So it just popped up all in one spike, in like 10 seconds???

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Both planets, both had atmospheres... why not?

So it just popped up all in one spike, in like 10 seconds???

Herp a derp

Both planets, both had atmospheres... why not?

I keep posting links that agree warmer means lower surface pressure.
You haven't found one link that supports your silly claim. Weird.

 

[EMH]

I keep posting links that agree warmer means lower surface pressure.

No, your "links" are about warmer air rising and colder air descending. That is about hour by hour wind changes.

The issue is a 70 year slow steady drop in Earth surface air pressure. Time to pass 4th grade and get a clue...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, your "links" are about warmer air rising and colder air descending. That is about hour by hour wind changes.

The issue is a 70 year slow steady drop in Earth surface air pressure. Time to pass 4th grade and get a clue...

No, your "links" are about warmer air rising and colder air descending.

You bet.

That is about hour by hour wind changes.

You've shown the pressure has been dropping for decades.

The issue is a 70 year slow steady drop in Earth surface air pressure.

Well, if it's been slowly warming for 70 years, that would make sense.

 

[EMH]

No, your "links" are about warmer air rising and colder air descending.

You bet.

That is about hour by hour wind changes.

You've shown the pressure has been dropping for decades.

The issue is a 70 year slow steady drop in Earth surface air pressure.

Well, if it's been slowly warming for 70 years, that would make sense.

Nice try. A 70 year record weeds out the day to day bs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nice try. A 70 year record weeds out the day to day bs.

The pressure didn't drop for a few days you idiot.

 

[EMH]

if it's been slowly warming for 70 years, that would make sense.

Any documentation yet that "warming" reduces surface air pressure ????

No, just more of the "warm air rises" without considering what happens when the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE warms.... which is what the Co2 FRAUD claims, which is 180 degrees from what the actual data says...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Any documentation yet that "warming" reduces surface air pressure ????

No, just more of the "warm air rises" without considering what happens when the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE warms.... which is what the Co2 FRAUD claims, which is 180 degrees from what the actual data says...

NDBC - Science Education - Does air pressure vary with respect to air temperature? - Answer

National Data Buoy Center - Science Education - Does air pressure vary with respect to air temperature? - Answer

www.ndbc.noaa.gov

Simple enough a child could understand it.

If you're still confused, ask a child to explain it to you.

 

[EMH]

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NDBC - Science Education - Does air pressure vary with respect to air temperature? - Answer

National Data Buoy Center - Science Education - Does air pressure vary with respect to air temperature? - Answer

www.ndbc.noaa.gov

Simple enough a child could understand it.

If you're still confused, ask a child to explain it to you.

Not confused at all. A seasonal variance of 0.4% wow....

Of course, measured annually and compared annually, all of that day to day stuff is filtered out, and hence your response has nothing to do with a 70 trend of decreasing surface air pressure, since your data shows no change year over year.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not confused at all. A seasonal variance of 0.4% wow....

Of course, measured annually and compared annually, all of that day to day stuff is filtered out, and hence your response has nothing to do with a 70 trend of decreasing surface air pressure, since your data shows no change year over year.

A seasonal variance of 0.4% wow....

I know. Lower pressure when it's warmer, higher pressure when it's colder.
That doesn't sound like it supports your claim.

Of course, measured annually and compared annually, all of that day to day stuff is filtered out

If it's warmer, on average, every day, what should be "filtered out"?

since your data shows no change year over year.

Your data did. Now show that pressure is dropping because it's cooling.

 

[EMH]

If it's warmer, on average, every day, what should be "filtered out"?

Summer and winter variances are "filtered out" when ANNUALIZED... duh...

Your data did. Now show that pressure is dropping because it's cooling.

Two factors cause surface air pressure to drop on Earth...


1. cooling
2. increase in ice age glacier, which takes air molecules out of atmosphere

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Summer and winter variances are "filtered out" when ANNUALIZED... duh...







Two factors cause surface air pressure to drop on Earth...


1. cooling
2. increase in ice age glacier, which takes air molecules out of atmosphere

Summer and winter variances are "filtered out" when ANNUALIZED... duh...

Show me that anything is "filtered out" in your chart.

Two factors cause surface air pressure to drop on Earth...

1. cooling

Show me some links that agree with your claim here.

2. increase in ice age glacier, which takes air molecules out of atmosphere

Show how many air molecules have been taken out by current glaciers.

 

[psikeyhackr]

You’re mistaking center of gravity with center of mass.
Look it up.

Oh wow, aren't YOU brilliant.
The difference is caused by the lack of uniformity of a gravitational field.

The center of gravity in a skyscraper should be some millimeters lower than the center of mass because the strength of gravity at the top of the building will be less than it is at the bottom.

I imagine this can matter in airplane design since a plane must change its orientation relative to gravity but not in much else.

Oh no, the bridge collapsed because the center of gravity got to far from the center of mass.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Yes, the actual center of mass of the entire atmosphere is roughly coincident with the center of the planet. I was hoping the context of the discussion would prevent that confusion.

What, you expect ME to miss an opportunity to be an asshole?

Do you think I am a gentleman or something?
I AM insulted.

 

[Dagosa]

Oh wow, aren't YOU brilliant.
The difference is caused by the lack of uniformity of a gravitational field.

The center of gravity in a skyscraper should be some millimeters lower than the center of mass because the strength of gravity at the top of the building will be less than it is at the bottom.

I imagine this can matter in airplane design since a plane must change its orientation relative to gravity but not in much else.

Oh no, the bridge collapsed because the center of gravity got to far from the center of mass.

Nope, it goes beyond that feeble attempt for examples using solids and not a gas . Any discussion of the center of mass of the atmosphere being near the center of gravity, is irrelevant in the discussion of climate change…it has no bearing what so ever. The atmosphere is composed of gas, not solids. The area in the troposphere where 50% is above and 50% is below is highly relevant..

 

[Dagosa]

Oh no, the bridge collapsed because the center of gravity got too far from the center of mass.

No shit….dah; guess you pretty much illustrated the point.

 

[abu afak]

	Peer-reviewed climate papers by climate skeptics​ This resource shows how many peer-reviewed papers have climate skeptics published that deny or cast doubt on human caused global warming. The database was compiled by Dr James Powell (geologist, author of The Inquisition of Climate Science). Only primary articles found via the Web of Science were included. More details are given here. 0 Habibullo Abdussamatov 1 Lamar Alexander 0 Claude Allegre 0 David Archibald 1 J. Scott Armstrong 0 Dennis Avery 9 Sallie Baliunas 2 Tim Ball 9 Robert Balling 1 Jack Barrett 0 Joe Bastardi 1 David Bellamy 0 Donna Bethell 0 Christopher Booker 0 William M. Briggs 0 Nigel Calder 1 Bob Carter 0 Paul Chesser 3 G Chilingar 1 John Christy 0 Petr Chylek 0 Piers Corbyn 0 Vincent Courtillot 1 Judith Curry 0 Tim Curtin 1 Chris de Freitas 0 David Deming 1 David Douglass 0 Freeman Dyson 1 Don Easterbrook 0 Lance Endersbee 0 Willis Eschenbach 0 Robert Essenhigh 0 Christopher Essex 0 David Evans 0 Lee Gerhard 0 Gerhard Gerlich 0 Ivar Giaever 0 Indur Goklany 0 Fred Goldberg 0 Stanley Goldenberg 0 Vincent Gray 0 William Gray 0 Kesten Green 0 William Happer 0 Martin Hertzberg 0 Heinz Hug 0 Ole Humlum 3 Craig Idso 8 Sherwood Idso 0 Zbigniew Jaworowski 0 Hans Jelbring 0 Wibjörn Karlen 0 Olavi Karner 0 Joel Kauffman 0 Aynsley Kellow 0 Madhav Khandekar 3 Leonid Khilyuk 1 William Kininmonth 0 Philip Klotzbach 6 Chip Knappenberger 1 Robert Knox 0 Kirill Kondratyev 0 Hans Labohm 0 Donna Laframboise 0 Nigel Lawson 0 Tsung-Dao Lee 2 David Legates 0 Marcel Leroux 0 Henry Linden 8 Richard Lindzen 1 Craig Loehle 0 Bjorn Lomborg 0 Oliver Manuel 1 Steve McIntyre 3 Ross McKitrick 1 John McLean 9 Patrick Michaels 0 Ferenc Miskolczi 0 Christopher Monckton 0 Andrew Montford 0 David Montgomery 0 Marc Morano 0 Nils-Axel Morner 0 Lubos Motl 0 Richard Muller 0 Jo Nova OJames O'Brien 0 Garth Paltridge 0 Benny Peiser 0 Roger Pielke Jr 3 Roger Pielke Sr 0 Ian Plimer 1 Eric Posmentier 0 Tom Quirk 0 Paul Reiter 0 Matt Ridley 0 Arthur Robinson 1 Arthur Rörsch 0 Murry Salby 2 Nicola Scafetta 0 Harrison Schmitt 0 Tom Segalstad 0 Nir Shaviv 0 Fred Singer 9 Willie Soon 1 Roy Spencer 0 Chauncey Starr 1 Henrik Svensmark 0 Dick Thoenes 0 Richard Tol 0 Ralf Tscheuschner 0 Noor Van Andel 0 Jan Veizer 0 Anthony Watts 0 Gerd-Rainer Weber 1 Bruce West 0 David Whitehouse 0 David Wojick 0 Miklos Zagony 0 Antonino Zichichi Peer-reviewed papers by climate skeptics​ Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally in the past' or 'other planets are warming too' are examined to see what the science really says. skepticalscience.com

 

[Grumblenuts]

So few peer reviewed papers.. Is it all really just shit talk?

 

[ding]

So few peer reviewed papers.. Is it all really just shit talk?

Is this shit talk?

Oceans circulate heat because the surface of the ocean is not heated evenly. It's how this heat is distributed that determines if the northern hemisphere is glaciating or deglaciating.

With the planet's current landmass configuration, how heat is distributed to the Arctic determines if the plant is warming or cooling.

When the AMOC switches off the heat that was being circulated from the Atlantic to the lands surrounding the north pole will start to glaciate because the decreased heat drops the temperature enough to reach the threshold of glaciation of the surrounding lands. As these glaciers spread the temperature of the atmosphere and the oceans cools because of all that ice in the Arctic.

 

[EMH]

	Peer-reviewed climate papers by climate skeptics​ This resource shows how many peer-reviewed papers have climate skeptics published that deny or cast doubt on human caused global warming. The database was compiled by Dr James Powell (geologist, author of The Inquisition of Climate Science). Only primary articles found via the Web of Science were included. More details are given here. 0 Habibullo Abdussamatov 1 Lamar Alexander 0 Claude Allegre 0 David Archibald 1 J. Scott Armstrong 0 Dennis Avery 9 Sallie Baliunas 2 Tim Ball 9 Robert Balling 1 Jack Barrett 0 Joe Bastardi 1 David Bellamy 0 Donna Bethell 0 Christopher Booker 0 William M. Briggs 0 Nigel Calder 1 Bob Carter 0 Paul Chesser 3 G Chilingar 1 John Christy 0 Petr Chylek 0 Piers Corbyn 0 Vincent Courtillot 1 Judith Curry 0 Tim Curtin 1 Chris de Freitas 0 David Deming 1 David Douglass 0 Freeman Dyson 1 Don Easterbrook 0 Lance Endersbee 0 Willis Eschenbach 0 Robert Essenhigh 0 Christopher Essex 0 David Evans 0 Lee Gerhard 0 Gerhard Gerlich 0 Ivar Giaever 0 Indur Goklany 0 Fred Goldberg 0 Stanley Goldenberg 0 Vincent Gray 0 William Gray 0 Kesten Green 0 William Happer 0 Martin Hertzberg 0 Heinz Hug 0 Ole Humlum 3 Craig Idso 8 Sherwood Idso 0 Zbigniew Jaworowski 0 Hans Jelbring 0 Wibjörn Karlen 0 Olavi Karner 0 Joel Kauffman 0 Aynsley Kellow 0 Madhav Khandekar 3 Leonid Khilyuk 1 William Kininmonth 0 Philip Klotzbach 6 Chip Knappenberger 1 Robert Knox 0 Kirill Kondratyev 0 Hans Labohm 0 Donna Laframboise 0 Nigel Lawson 0 Tsung-Dao Lee 2 David Legates 0 Marcel Leroux 0 Henry Linden 8 Richard Lindzen 1 Craig Loehle 0 Bjorn Lomborg 0 Oliver Manuel 1 Steve McIntyre 3 Ross McKitrick 1 John McLean 9 Patrick Michaels 0 Ferenc Miskolczi 0 Christopher Monckton 0 Andrew Montford 0 David Montgomery 0 Marc Morano 0 Nils-Axel Morner 0 Lubos Motl 0 Richard Muller 0 Jo Nova OJames O'Brien 0 Garth Paltridge 0 Benny Peiser 0 Roger Pielke Jr 3 Roger Pielke Sr 0 Ian Plimer 1 Eric Posmentier 0 Tom Quirk 0 Paul Reiter 0 Matt Ridley 0 Arthur Robinson 1 Arthur Rörsch 0 Murry Salby 2 Nicola Scafetta 0 Harrison Schmitt 0 Tom Segalstad 0 Nir Shaviv 0 Fred Singer 9 Willie Soon 1 Roy Spencer 0 Chauncey Starr 1 Henrik Svensmark 0 Dick Thoenes 0 Richard Tol 0 Ralf Tscheuschner 0 Noor Van Andel 0 Jan Veizer 0 Anthony Watts 0 Gerd-Rainer Weber 1 Bruce West 0 David Whitehouse 0 David Wojick 0 Miklos Zagony 0 Antonino Zichichi Peer-reviewed papers by climate skeptics​ Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally in the past' or 'other planets are warming too' are examined to see what the science really says. skepticalscience.com

Enron's accounting statements were "peer reviewed" by all the crooks at Enron, bravo...