How do we get out of this?

[Mac1958]

You've likely hit the nail on the head. Soon he will declare victory and run away.

He's already hinted at it.

Create a mess, let everyone else deal with it. He's a child, so that's all he knows.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

He's already hinted at it.

Create a mess, let everyone else deal with it. He's a child, so that's all he knows.

For over 50 years.
Even subcontractors called Trump an idiot, for what he suggested on HIS jobsite.

 

[kyzr]

Lurch is a nut job.

I agree he is the exact opposite of other democrats, but he is the only sane one now that Manchin and Sinema are gone.

 

[Mac1958]

For over 50 years.
Even subcontractors called Trump an idiot, for what he suggested on HIS jobsite.

Our former friends will have to help him at some point.

They're over a barrel, no pun intended. They have no choice. He caused a mess, they'll have to help clean it up because it's hurting them. Again.

The world is being run by a Mafia family.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Our former friends will have to help him at some point.

They're over a barrel, no pun intended. They have no choice. He caused a mess, they'll have to help clean it up because it's hurting them. Again.

The world is being run by a Mafia family.

"They'll have to help clean it up"?
LOL.
THEY are perpetuating Trump's delusions.

 

[kyzr]

"They'll have to help clean it up"? LOL.
THEY are perpetuating Trump's delusions.

What "delusions"?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

What "delusions"?

Just the latest...............

Donald Trump's Jaw-Dropping Cuba Boast Ignites Anger​

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2 days ago — He also falsely claimed Cuba is “not in a hurricane zone, which is nice for a change” because “they won't be asking us for money for hurricanes every week.”

 

[BackAgain]

Relevant reading...

Copyright © 2026 The Ron Paul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

''As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency, and NSA were simply bypassed because, as White House Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said, President Trump “had a feeling” Iran would attack.

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.

Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.

Congress was completely out of the picture – seemingly uninterested in performing its Constitutional duty – and no case was made to the American people that they must sacrifice and die once again for a war in the Middle East.

Trump’s repeated promises to not start new wars, especially in the Middle East, have turned out to be empty, and Republicans are set for a crippling defeat in the upcoming midterm elections.

Iran had been warning for months – since the last US/Israeli surprise attack in June – that if they were attacked again they would not hold back on US bases in the region and that they would close the Straits of Hormuz. Trump and Netanyahu attacked anyway, and Iran has done what it said it would do.

Now the Strait of Hormuz is closed, oil is about to go out of control, and the global economy – along with the US dollar – seems about to implode.

On March 6th, President Trump refused a UK offer of help, saying we don’t need help when we’ve already won the war. Five days later, at a rally in Kentucky, President Trump repeated that “We’ve won the Iran war!”

It was his “Mission Accomplished” moment, because this weekend, just days after declaring victory against an “obliterated” Iran, Trump began begging other countries to send ships to help the US open the Strait of Hormuz.

Thus far every country has declined, understanding that such a mission has little chance of success.

Tragically, the war thus far has claimed at least 14 servicemembers. It is likely the toll is far worse than they are telling us. Every US military facility in the region is either damaged or destroyed. Billions of dollars of radar and other equipment are destroyed. Our allies in the region, because they allowed their territory to be used to attack Iran, have also seen massive retaliatory destruction.

This is surely one of the worst military disasters in US history. There are no military options available beyond the unthinkable: the use of nuclear weapons.

The only viable option that remains is one that was often urged in the Vietnam War: Just get out. Now! No return to US bases, no security guarantees to Gulf States. End the US empire in the Middle East and elsewhere. If not, it’s only going to get worse.''


Author: Ron Paul

Just Get Out! Now! - The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity

As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff...

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Ron Paul is cuckoo.

 

[leftwinger]

Our former friends will have to help him at some point.

They're over a barrel, no pun intended. They have no choice. He caused a mess, they'll have to help clean it up because it's hurting them. Again.

The world is being run by a Mafia fadefrost.

Macaroni and Stamer lol! They killed their own counties you dress wearing Mormon quack.

Perfectly normal to marry tryout Trans grandma EH MiddleStain hack?

Dont bother me. Games tipping off.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Maybe Iran will Make America Great Again.

If you know what i mean...

 

[berg80]

Our former friends will have to help him at some point.

They're over a barrel, no pun intended. They have no choice. He caused a mess, they'll have to help clean it up because it's hurting them. Again.

The world is being run by a Mafia family.

Here's why I think the regime has not announced a timetable or a plan for escorting ships in the Strait. It doesn't know if it will work. Even if it does, the pace of shipping will only be a fraction of what it was (100 ships a day.)

The idea of escorts is the only card the regime has left to play at the moment. If they play it and it doesn't work oil goes much higher, the market goes much lower, gasoline goes well over $4, and the midterms will be a blue wave.

 

[Mac1958]

Here's why I think the regime has not announced a timetable or a plan for escorting ships in the Strait. It doesn't know if it will work. Even if it does, the pace of shipping will only be a fraction of what it was (100 ships a day.)

The idea of escorts is the only card the regime has left to play at the moment. If they play it and it doesn't work oil goes much higher, the market goes much lower, gasoline goes well over $4, and the midterms will be a blue wave.

Yeah, I don't know what he expects from our former friends, specifically. I understand they have more mine-sweeping equipment that we have. And opening the Strait does not put an end to this, uh, special military operation.

I think we can expect him to bully and threaten our former friends at every possible turn on this. Maybe it will work. They're getting hit by his actions. They're learning first hand that he has no floor.

 

[berg80]

Yeah, I don't know what he expects from our former friends, specifically. I understand they have more mine-sweeping equipment that we have. And opening the Strait does not put an end to this, uh, special military operation.

I think we can expect him to bully and threaten our former friends at every possible turn on this. Maybe it will work. They're getting hit by his actions. They're learning first hand that he has no floor.

England offered to send two aircraft carriers last w/e. Dotard told them to stuff it. Cuz.........stable genius.

 

[berg80]

Our former friends will have to help him at some point.

They're over a barrel, no pun intended. They have no choice. He caused a mess, they'll have to help clean it up because it's hurting them. Again.

The world is being run by a Mafia family.

The orange piece of shit must be pressuring "Raizin'" Cane to bail him out with a military solution. Cane must be asking himself why he jumped in to the large bucket of shit trump wallows in.

 

[Mac1958]

The orange piece of shit must be pressuring "Raizin'" Cane to bail him out with a military solution. Cane must be asking himself why he jumped in to the large bucket of shit trump wallows in.

It's always amazing to see people so willing to be stained like that.

Some folks are just attracted so strongly to power that they lose their judgement.

 

[Dekster]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Canada will probably come up with something. They have a lot of Iranians.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Iran is going to have to be totally destroyed. That means take out all islamic leadership and keep doing it all over the world. Probably We are going to have to set up the gov't FOR The Persians/Iranians. They have been so tyranized for so long there seem to be NO leaders who know what to do. We're going to have to do something about that even if it is to put the shah with controls back into place. Then train some with leadership ability to be able to establish some kind of modernized, representative republic at that point. I hesitate to say democratic. THese people, the mullahs and their supporters are inhuman brutes. Look at the devastation around the world these people are involved with. Keep close ties with them from now on out. USA I mean. Europe will turn them back into islamisists if there are not roadblocks in place.

I've never been involved in nation building so that's a very generalized view. Mainly...they can't rise again and we've got to prevent that. Maybe at some point, Europe will leave being the weakmen of the Western Civilization and do their part. It's amazing to me the descent of Britain in particular considering some of the Brit patriots that carried Britain through WWII.

 

[justoffal]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Unbunch your panties...Iran is fucked...now just hang in there a little while the world gets improved.....or are you now a supporter of a murderous regime that assassinates people simply for having an alternate lifestyle?

 

[Crepitus]

What would be considered victory? If the regime is overthrown and a more moderate regime takes over, would that be a victory?

The problem is that Democrats will never give credit for a victory here no matter what happens. They don’t care about what is best for the US or the world, they only care about bashing Trump.

tRump wsill make something up, claim that was the goal all along, and declare he "won".

 

[georgephillip]

ullshit. Those countries are richer and freer from the experiance of being brought into the US led global economy.

THey are moving to richer nations, because they now have the money to do so.

How did rent extraction and debt overhead allow "those countries become richer and freer?

GoogleAI Overview:

• "Rent Extraction and Debt Overhead: By the 1950s, former colonies were left with a massive 'rent and debt overhead' inherited from European creditors, blocking them from developing balanced public/private economies.
• Starvation of Local Economies: The British Empire in particular relied on exporting surpluses from colonies, forcing them to produce tea, cotton, and food for export while local populations starved.
• Imperial Financial Control: By the end of the 19th century, debtor nations often had their fiscal policies dictated by central banks or national monetary commissions appointed by European powers (Britain, Germany, France).
• Transition to Modern Financial Imperialism: (Michael) Hudson notes that post-WWII, this direct colonial exploitation was replaced by a more 'efficient' U.S.-led financial imperialism—using the IMF and World Bank—to force countries to sell off natural resources and public infrastructure to foreign investors, continuing the cycle of bankruptcy.
• The 1946 British Loan: Hudson argues that the United States used this loan to deliberately bankrupt Britain and break up its empire to replace it with the 'Dollar Area.'"